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Q: So I turned on my radio, which is tuned to KPOJ, and instead of Carl in the Morning I have this Fox Sports bullshit. What the fuck?

A: Yes, I thought you might wonder about that. What happened is that KPOJ changed its format from Liberal Talk to Sport Talk at about 6PM Friday night (Nov. 9th). No more Carl Wolfson, no more Ed Schultz, no more Thom Hartmann, no more Randi Rhodes, and so on.

More Q&A over the fold!

Q: This must be some kind of outlandish conspiracy to silence liberal voices!!!

A: So, to my mind, the answer to this is "it wouldn't surprise me." KPOJ management claims that the station had bad ratings, but that's hardly surprising considering the lack of promotional effort in recent years. And, the conventional wisdom in the radio world is that political talk is a toxic format and that conservative or progressive listeners aren't as valuable as alumni or sports fan listeners....but you can still get Glenn Beck in this town.

Nonetheless, an equally likely hypothesis is that they really wanted to turn KPOJ into the voice of Oregon State University football. OSU isn't the powerhouse that Oregon is, but they have a lot of rabid alums, and those rabid alums are a prime target for advertising dollars. They're also not likely to abide political talk of any stripe.

My best guess? They wanted Oregon State fans AND to kill off the progressive talk experiment, and decided to kill two birds with one stone. They timed it to occur after the election thinking it would add insult to injury, and after Romney lost they shrugged and went ahead anyway.

Q: So what can we do about it?

A: There's a petition drive to restore the progressive format and give Carl his job back; it has a few hundred signatures. I've signed it myself. Nonetheless, my best guess is that the petition will be ignored by Clear Channel.

A better move might be to lobby the owners of AM 910 to change their format to liberal talk. Right now that station is just a feed of KNRK. That station's been flailing around for the better part of a decade, and it's possible that the owners might consider a move to progressive talk as a step up from the current format for 910. There's no organized lobbying effort underway yet, as far as I know.

Q: What do I listen to in the meantime?

A: Whatever the hell you want. Clear Channel's decision indubitably leaves Portland worse off, but there's still conservative talk, sports talk, and boring music. Personally I've changed my preset to AM 750 because they carry Ducks football. Randi Rhodes and Ed Schultz are available via podcast. Pandora offers streaming music so that you can get hard rock in a town with no hard rock station. There's still public broadcasting.

Last and IMO least, you can keep listening to KPOJ - you know, Fox Sports. Yeah, right.

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  •  Tip Jar (7+ / 0-)

    ‎"Masculinity is not something given to you, but something you gain. And you gain it by winning small battles with honor." - Norman Mailer
    My Blog
    My wife's woodblock prints

    by maxomai on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 06:01:04 AM PST

  •  Yeah I know the feeling... (4+ / 0-)

    living in Connecticut, a very blue state, the only political talk stations in the Hartford area are far right. I can get a Springfield AM station that airs progressive talk, but goes off the air at sundown. Four Spanish language stations and four religious stations,and three sports stations in the market, but not one single progressive station. It sucks!!!

    •  Down here on the Shoreline (0+ / 0-)

      It's the same or worse (I don't think we can get 4 Spanish-Language stations). I can't be bothered to listen to radio anymore, between the relentless commercials and idiot "talkers". Even NPR here has a clearly conservative/business whiff. Pathetic.
      At least, PLR hasn't changed....since 1974, same song list!

      If I ran this circus, things would be DIFFERENT!

      by CwV on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 07:30:41 AM PST

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  •  Liberal talk radio isn't a ratings winner... (1+ / 0-)
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    johnny wurster

    ....because it is boring. Rationality is boring.  Structural; analysis is boring.  Refraining from characterizing individuals based on race or gender or religion is boring.  That's just how it is.  I don't think any amount of increased promotion would solve that.  

    You know, I sometimes think if I could see, I'd be kicking a lot of ass. -Stevie Wonder at the Glastonbury Festival, 2010

    by Rich in PA on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 06:28:24 AM PST

    •  Nope, don't buy that (3+ / 0-)

      There are ways to make rationality not boring. Rhodes and Schultz inject passion into their shows. Stephanie Miller uses humor.

      Unfortunately, Al Franken was the flagship show for AAR, and he mostly followed, and drew audience from, public radio. But it helped to get him a Senate seat, so I'm not complaining.

      ‎"Masculinity is not something given to you, but something you gain. And you gain it by winning small battles with honor." - Norman Mailer
      My Blog
      My wife's woodblock prints

      by maxomai on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 09:18:23 AM PST

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      •  But we know it doesn't work with audiences (0+ / 0-)

        We know that because the audiences are very small, in absolute terms and compared to the number of people who hold those views in society. So it's a non-starter to say that X, Y or Z do a good job, because a good job is measured by how many people are listening.

        You know, I sometimes think if I could see, I'd be kicking a lot of ass. -Stevie Wonder at the Glastonbury Festival, 2010

        by Rich in PA on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 11:18:45 AM PST

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    •  Speak for yourself! I love Carl, Randi... (0+ / 0-)

      and Stephanie Miller. I defy anyone to watch the latter's TV show and call it boring.

      Not even I expected Romney to let his entitled Lord-of-the-Manor freak flag fly as proudly as he did on Tuesday night ~ Charlie Pierce

      by AuroraDawn on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 06:51:44 PM PST

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  •  Wow (4+ / 0-)

    I haven't followed liberal talk ratings for a few years.  When I did, though, KPOJ was one of the best rated liberal talk stations in the country.  Heck, it was one of the better rated stations in all of Portland.  I guess it declined once Obama was elected perhaps?   That's really surprising.

    •  Naw it's been declining for a while (1+ / 0-)
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      wave of change

      I pointed out a few signs that things weren't good for KPOJ in a comment to another diary. But Clear Channel has been clearly starving that station since it started: I was amazed at how many public service announcements KPOJ would air, as compared to other radio stations.

      Had the PTB properly promoted the station as Clear Channel promotes its other properties in Portland, I think KPOJ would have thrived & kept its spot at the top of the heap. Instead it treated the station as a cash cow, giving it minimal attention, & when Bain Capital bought Clear Channel they started actively draining it of resources.

  •  The proper call letters the most toxic station (1+ / 0-)
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    Pale Jenova

    KKKXL

    White-collar conservatives flashing down the street, pointing their plastic finger at me..

    by BOHICA on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 06:33:09 AM PST

  •  Work with the advertisers (3+ / 0-)
    A better move might be to lobby the owners of AM 910 to change their format to liberal talk.
    And the way to do this is for a few thousand potential listeners to pledge that they'll support the companies that advertise on progressive talk radio.  If you remember the advertisers on KPOJ, contact them and tell them that you will continue to support them on a new progressive talk station.
  •  what? (2+ / 0-)
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    Maverick80229, wave of change

    This is completely disappointing.  I listened to KPOJ every day and so did many other people.  I really doubt this is based on ratings, though maybe that's the case.  What a disappointment.  How is it possible that Oregon State Beavers talk gets better ratings?  

  •  Go To Progressiave Voices To Stream... (1+ / 0-)
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    Oregon Gal

    Below is a link to the player to start Progressive Voices

    http://www.live365.com/...

    Their Web Is
    http://progressivevoices.com/

    Their lineup is
    Bill Press
    Stephanie Miller
    Ed Schultz
    Thom Hartmann
    Randie Rhodes
    Majority Report
    Mike Malloy
    Ring of Fire
    And more

    "I hope I shall ever see America as a more liberal nation at the forefront of liberality…" George Washington --

  •  Sinclair (i.e. Clear Channel) (0+ / 0-)

    ...owns ALL the stations in my area I used to listen to, so for music, I've got my Ipod, and I don't even bother with radio any more.

    On rare occasions I will listen to classical music on WOSU. For local news WTVN-TV and for national news CBS and BBC America.

    But Clear Channel killed radio for me -- I want music not talk.

  •  Thanks for this update. (1+ / 0-)
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    wave of change

    Um, inasmuch as the airwaves belong to us people, wouldn't it be nice if us people owned a few radio stations around the country?

  •  Very sad about the format change. (1+ / 0-)
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    wave of change

    I don't mind Beaver football, since I teach at Oregon State, but a day rarely went by that I didn't catch some Karl in the morning on my drive into Corvallis.  

    So many sports radio shows (and I love sports) and yet no liberal talk radio in the Portland, Corvallis, and Eugene area.  How much sense does that make?

  •  I signed the petition, for all the good it will do (1+ / 0-)
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    llywrch

    In the meantime, I guess I get to wake up to classical music in the morning.

    I don't see why KPOJ couldn't carry both progressive talk and Beaver football. After all, they carried PSU football a few years back and I still remember the announcer making a fateful call:

    "Neglected to catch the football!!"

    And God said, "Let there be light"; and with a Big Bang, there was light. And God said "Ow! Ow My eyes!" and in a flash God separated light from darkness. "Whew! Now that's better. Now where was I. Oh yea . . ."

    by Pale Jenova on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 06:15:59 PM PST

  •  Very sad. Screw Bain and Clear Channel. (1+ / 0-)
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    AuroraDawn

    I used to listen to KBOO but I can't stand Lisa Loving (sp?) and her crazed chattering which mostly consists of interrupting everyone else.  

    And the saddest part is that these airwaves belong to us.  

    "Love One Another" ~ George Harrison

    by Damnit Janet on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 06:57:38 AM PST

  •  I couldn't believe it when I turned on... (0+ / 0-)

    the radio yesterday to discover that KPOJ - as we knew it - was gone, just GONE. Was there even a warning? I certainly didn't hear it! I signed the petition, but as you pointed out, this is Clear Channel we are dealing with, so I won't hold my breath.

    Not even I expected Romney to let his entitled Lord-of-the-Manor freak flag fly as proudly as he did on Tuesday night ~ Charlie Pierce

    by AuroraDawn on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 06:50:41 PM PST

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