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I'm watching reactions to the upcoming 'fiscal cliff' and it strikes me that universally the news will get a Republican response and then talk about how the President will respond. The President. Not the Democratic position and how the President will negotiate between the two sides. I believe this always puts a progressive response at a disadvantage and we didn't vote for that.

Where is the Democratic response?  Where are our leaders in Congress? Can we finally acknowledge that a majority of Americans doesn't want our FICA contributions robbed to pay for a tax cut or the Defense budget? That we didn't vote to force rape victims to have babies by government decree? Would it be that hard to have a Democratic response to these talks at the same time we hear he Republican one?

It's not that the President doesn't want a lot of the same things, but Democrats are not Republicans and do not work from the same play book from the top down. Why not let the President be the 'compromiser-in-chief' if the compromise is between actual progressive policies and the right-wing/corporate group think? Push him left!

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  •  Tip Jar (2+ / 0-)
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    stevej, One Pissed Off Liberal

    Stay-at-home-Moms: Hard working unless they're on welfare, then they're lazy. Just ask any Republican.

    by musicsleuth on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 07:17:59 AM PST

  •  Here's what the President said. (1+ / 0-)
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    In a nutshell.  I edited out the wordiness.  His statement is on the White House website.

    I’ve invited leaders of both parties to the White House next week, so we can start to build consensus around challenges we can only solve together

    Our top priority has to be jobs and growth.  The focus of the plan:

    •  reward businesses that create jobs here in America
    •  education and training
    •  rebuild our infrastructure
    •  innovation and clean energy
    •  reduce our deficit in a balanced and responsible way.

    We can’t just cut our way to prosperity.  We have to combine spending cuts with revenue – and that means asking the wealthiest Americans to pay a little more in taxes. I refuse to accept any approach that isn’t balanced. I will not ask students or seniors or middle-class families to pay down the entire deficit while people making over $250,000 aren’t asked to pay a dime more in taxes.

    Now we need a majority in Congress to listen – and they should start by making sure taxes don’t go up on the 98% of Americans making under $250,000 a year starting January 1.

    You want cooperation. You want action. That’s what I plan to deliver in my second term, and I expect to find leaders from both parties willing to join me.

    "Those who deny freedom to others, deserve it not for themselves." - Abraham Lincoln

    by leftreborn on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 07:31:42 AM PST

    •  Both sides (0+ / 0-)

      Including the side that is to the left of the President. Give him a way to compromise that is more center-left than right/center-right. Fiscally, his positions start out center/center-right and become 'leftist' in the media because there is only one opposing view being discussed. Where do you negotiate from there?  I didn't vote for that.

      Stay-at-home-Moms: Hard working unless they're on welfare, then they're lazy. Just ask any Republican.

      by musicsleuth on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 07:53:21 AM PST

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      •  You asked. I answered. (1+ / 0-)
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        I believe the question was, "Where is the Democratic response?"  It sounds to me like you're frustrated because you're listening to a media outlet that only presents the Republican side of the story which is pretty much all of them.  That's something you should take up with them.  Ask them why they don't present more than one side of the story.

        "Those who deny freedom to others, deserve it not for themselves." - Abraham Lincoln

        by leftreborn on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 08:01:41 AM PST

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        •  Because the democratic position (0+ / 0-)

          Is not articulated by leaders to the press in the same way.

          Stay-at-home-Moms: Hard working unless they're on welfare, then they're lazy. Just ask any Republican.

          by musicsleuth on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 08:05:46 AM PST

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          •  The US press is a waste of time. (2+ / 0-)
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            musicsleuth, ccellist

            It's a circus only.  It counts for nothing.  If you want to know what's happening with fiscal matters, you're better off reading the congressional record and cross reference to the CBO.  Statements politicians give to the press aren't to be taken at face value.  Watch what they do in Congress, not what they say in the press.  Remember Pelosi floated the idea of raising the lower tax rate expiration to a million in income instead of the $250,000 that has been Obama's mantra. Everybody turned on her in an instant.  Months later in an interview she said it wasn't her real position.  She was just feeling for any signs of support, consent, agreement, life?  Meaning --- on the other side.  Trying to guage whether there could be a threshold where Republican unity might fracture.  It's part of the sport.

            The Democrats have the upper hand.  The Republicans have nothing but bluff and bluster. The Budget Control Act is Public Law.  It says that the automatic budget cutting sequestration must come from the discretionary side of the budget, defense and non-defense.  The non-discretionary side can't be touched.  That's Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, SCHIP.  That didn't happen by itself or by accident.  It took manuevering by Obama and Reid to get Republicans to pass it, even though it's the opposite of what they want.  

            The Republicans desperately want to scrap the BCA (that they voted for) and the Democrats can make them sweat it out.  

            The 2010 Tax Reduction Reauthorization is going to expire and take away the lower tax rates at all income levels.  That means higher tax rates on income under $250,000, an end to the unemployment extension and payroll tax cut.  

            The public is anxious because it anticipates an unfavorable swap. O Ye of little faith.  

            The President won't deal with this session of Congress.  The clock will run out on the end of the year.  It's not a cliff.  It's just a new year and a new session of Congress with a slightly more favorable mix of players.  There may be some Republicans in the new session who are willing to play along.  There's no way to reinstate anything lost by the under $250,000 earners without some of them coming along.  

            Don't forget that the Affordable Care Act includes a 3.8% rate hike on capital gains with an exclusion for the first $250,000.  It also includes a 0.9%  payroll tax increase with an exclusion for the first $250,000.  

            Through it all the media will have its own agenda.  Unless you enjoy being mentally and emotionally abused for their profit, steer clear.

            "Those who deny freedom to others, deserve it not for themselves." - Abraham Lincoln

            by leftreborn on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 08:52:20 AM PST

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  •  I think we have to draw a line in the sand (2+ / 0-)

    The president needs Democratic votes to get it done.  We have to let our representatives know that a vote for Republican principles is not acceptable.  And certainly something as foolish as appointing Bowles as Treasury secretary is likewise not acceptable.  A grand bargain can get done, but not by forcing people who have been doing manual labor all their lives to wait another 2 years before they can get social security.

  •  We Need a Progressive Response. (2+ / 0-)
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    musicsleuth, hardhatmama

    The Democrats are responding, and some are agreeing with Republicans on various points.

    A starting point could be that Social Security isn't involved in the deficit.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 07:56:33 AM PST

    •  Should be a no-brainer (0+ / 0-)

      Start with Social Security and follow up with not reducing infrastructure expenditures to those of a third-world country. That is not a balanced response. Our roads, bridges and electrical grid are more critical than star wars defense missiles. And they provide good American jobs, too.

      Stay-at-home-Moms: Hard working unless they're on welfare, then they're lazy. Just ask any Republican.

      by musicsleuth on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 08:02:43 AM PST

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