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So... Mr. Schnatter announces that, because of Obamacare and the increase in costs to his business, he will cut employee hours so that they fall under 30 hours per week. That is the number whereby he is no longer liable to provide health insurance to his employees.  Obviously he has not provided health insurance to these folks before now, so they really are losing anything, other than a few hours of work/pay.

Earlier this year Mr. Schnatter announced that he would have to raise prices per pizza to 11-14 cents each in order to pay for Obamacare for his employees.  Did he actually do this? And now he's cutting hours?  Or was that just all bluster?  I don't know.

My question now is, What happens to these folks that have shortened hours? Will they still qualify for Obamacare and will they have to pay the premium on their own?

Will these folks get any kind of discount because they are the working poor?  

Will it matter what state they live in because some of the Republican governors have refused to set up health insurance exchanges will those people not be able to opt in to Obamacare?

What about single-payer? Will this be able to be implemented in some cases?

Anyone that knows these answers please chime in. thanks.

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  •  Tip Jar (0+ / 0-)

    mitt romney: gettin shit done for rich people... in quiet rooms

    by titotitotito on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 07:16:02 AM PST

  •  agreed....where do these employees land now? (0+ / 0-)

    not that HHS should have to reply directly to every jackass like Mr. Schnatter who throws a politically motivated OMGWTFBBQ!!!! hissy-fit over a law that isn't "designed to crush small businesses", but I am hoping that this will prompt HHS to get ahead of the story here before Papa John gets a "death panel" bullshit meme started about the ACA.

    If only Michael Phelps hadn't smoked that pot...imagine what he could have accomplished with motivation and good lung capacity.

    by papa monzano on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 07:29:58 AM PST

  •  I hate this... (0+ / 0-)

    ...for multiple reasons.  Among them is the fact that neither the local franchisees nor their local workers are part of this.  Two or three times a year we get a pizza from the local Papa John's franchise store, it's always OK, and the help is friendly and helpful.  They need their paychecks.  I hate to see anything that hurts these local, poorly paid workers.

    How to we send a message to Papa John's headquarters while supporting the local franchise owners and the workers who have no part is this mess?

    •  We do it by (2+ / 0-)
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      titotitotito, Catte Nappe

      1. writing to the management of the company by googling "Papa John's Customer Service" and writing a note.  And by

      2.  Calling the manager of your local franchise and telling him until Schnatter reverses his public political statements you won't be buying pizza from him.

      Whether you follow through on your threat in 2/ or not, it will be helpful for the franchisee to be able to report to HQ that he is hearing an earful from his customers on this.  That should help pressure Schnatter to reverse this.

      Still enjoying my stimulus package.

      by Kevvboy on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 07:45:26 AM PST

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    •  Pizza jobs are a dime a dozen (7+ / 0-)

      Literally the worst job in fast food hands down bar none.  All you need to get started as a pizza whore is a car and no record.  You can then sacrifice your car over a period of a few weeks or months for the profits of the pizza chain.

      When you've finished destroying your automobile with non-stop overuse, and you've made so little you can't afford to replace it, you can then be unemployed until somehow you find a new ride.

      Lived it.
      Despised it.
      Would never do it again.

      I'm sorry that John Schantter is a complete stinking assface but the fact that his employees are working for a complete stinking assface is unfortunate, and I can't change that.  I also can't give that stinking assface any more of my money.

      Don't worry, the economy will route around John Schnatter.  Let's put the son of a bitch out of business.  Some other pizza chain will take up the slack.

  •  Demographics.... hmmm.... (1+ / 0-)
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    Catte Nappe

    I wonder how the age demographic that represents the bulk of Papa John's employees lines up with the the age demographics of their customer base.  Any chance Mr.Schnatter is taking careful aim at his foot?

    “The aim of mankind should be to tame the savageness of man and make gentle the life of this world.”--Edith Hamilton (1867-1963)

    by cinepost on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 07:41:54 AM PST

  •  Wonder why pizza magnates tend to be the (3+ / 0-)
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    JeffW, a2nite, Catte Nappe

    biggest RW asswipes on the planet?

    Just a coincidence?  Hardly seems possible based on long established rules of probabilities . . .  .

  •  I will continue (1+ / 0-)
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    papa monzano

    to do what I have always done - order from the local family owned pizza shop, no corporate asses and better pizza.

  •  Official pizza of the NFL (2+ / 0-)
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    papa monzano, our better angels

    He's giving away 1 million free pizzas as part of the NFL promotion but he can't afford to give his employees health insurance? And he can't raise his prices 14 frickin cents? What an ass!

  •  So imagine my surprise and anger... (3+ / 0-)

    when the Tampa OFA office ordered PAPPA JOHN'S PIZZA for the election watch party!

    What, was Chick-fil-A closed!

    Honest to god, the Democrats need to pass a resolution that NO Democratic Campaign will spend DEMOCRATIC DONOR MONEY to patronize Pappa John's, Chick-fil-A or Dominoes.  Campaigns should patronize LOCAL businesses; hopefully one's owned by DEMOCRATS!  Even if you patronize a local Republican owned business you know that the owner isn't donating MILLIONS to our opponents!

  •  You miss another important question (1+ / 0-)
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    our better angels

    Just how many of his employees are already on a less than 30/hour work week? It seems to be a business model where there's lots of part timing anyway.

    " can’t find any oxygen from outside the aircraft to get in the aircraft, because the windows don’t open. I don’t know why they don’t do that. It’s a real problem." Mitt Romney

    by Catte Nappe on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 10:44:47 AM PST

    •  but the questions i asked about the healthcare law (0+ / 0-)

      haven't been answered...  i truly don't know the answers, was hoping i would find something here that i could use in arguments with tea baggerz and other republican conservative types.

      mitt romney: gettin shit done for rich people... in quiet rooms

      by titotitotito on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 11:51:49 AM PST

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      •  I can help you with some of them (0+ / 0-)

        Eligibility for the coverage, costs to the employees, and subsidies they might qualify for, are based on their income. Not on whether or not their employer cut their total hours (although that will affect their income). Nothing he has done (or threatens to do) will change any of that.

        For those of us in states that have decided not to set up an exchange, the Feds will be doing it for them.

        It is my understanding that states can implement single payer systems if they want to go there.

        " can’t find any oxygen from outside the aircraft to get in the aircraft, because the windows don’t open. I don’t know why they don’t do that. It’s a real problem." Mitt Romney

        by Catte Nappe on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 12:28:01 PM PST

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  •  Corporate office hours or pizza delivery hours (0+ / 0-)

    Papa Johns (traded under PZZA) looks like their biggest rising costs are related to food ingredients and fuel. Their earnings per share (diluted) looks strong .

    So just wondering if all this hokum about health care issues is just cover for other business decisions. They repurchased a bunch of stock @ $64mm in 2012.

    Offering part time only in order to dodge offering benefits is not new..retailers know this well. In order to attract talented workers businesses know they need to induce with benefits or other incentives.

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