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I'm wondering, if now President Obama is a two term President, will news reporters and other pundits start referring to President Obama with the title the office of President of these United States deserves?
I, for one, am downright(pun intended) disgusted with these partisan reporters and commentators referring to the President as Mr. Obama or Barack Obama. His title is "President Obama". and people should be called out when they refer to him by first name or Mr.
People who want a Constitutional Amendment regarding the proper respect for a piece of cloth with Stars and Stripes that was sewn when there were only 13 stars, continue to show disrespect toward our country and the position of Commander in Chief. On ships where the commanding officer is a Lieutenant Commander in rank, he is still referred to as Captain and treated as such by his crew.
I would love to hear of Bill O'Reilly being corrected next time he refers to the President in less than respectful terms.
You may not believe in his politics or skin color,(I say this because I believe color plays a large part), but you damn well should show the respect our duly elected leader, President Barack H. Obama, is entitled to.

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  •  Nate Silver... (2+ / 0-)
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    hardhatmama, ConfusedSkyes

    among other, refers to him as "Mr. Obama" in his columns. I have no issue with calling him Mr. Obama,or Obama, or Barack Obama, or Barack.

    A president is a person. In his presence I'd call him Mr. President, but not necessarily when speaking of him to others or online.

    "It's almost as if we're watching Mitt Romney on Safari in his own country." -- Jonathan Capeheart

    by JackND on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 08:55:01 AM PST

    •  Because Nate Silver does so does not mean (0+ / 0-)

      it is correct.
      I have never in my lifetime, unless it was meant to be disrespectful, read of a sitting President being called by his first name or Mr., by any on air bobble-head.
      I don't believe Mr. Silver should do so as well.

      "If you tell the truth, you won't have to remember anything", Mark Twain

      by Cruzankenny on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 09:19:48 AM PST

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      •  Sorry...I ain't giving up "Bubba" & "Dubya" (0+ / 0-)

        "It's almost as if we're watching Mitt Romney on Safari in his own country." -- Jonathan Capeheart

        by JackND on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 11:07:15 AM PST

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      •  Really? (0+ / 0-)

        I've heard that for years, and I'd guess that I'm a lot older than you. It's very common for newspapers, e.g., the New York Times, to refer to the president as "Mr....."  Often on talk shows hosts and guests will, without disrespect, shorten it to Obama. It's not a big deal. It gets alternated with "the President" and "President Obama." A CBS reporter explains the network's policy.

        There are lots more things to worry about if you have the time to spare. ;)

        Being the single intellectual in a village of 1,100 souls ain't much fun, especially when 1,099 of those don't think you're all that smart.--Lucy Marsden

        by Miniaussiefan on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 11:16:53 AM PST

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  •  "Mr. Obama" is not disrespectful, (0+ / 0-)

    although I myself typically do say "President Obama," or sometimes just Obama.

  •  Yes. (1+ / 0-)
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    jalenth

    It is a courtesy that has been shown to all presidents, even the terrible ones. President Obama should be afforded the same courtesy that his predecessors were Anne are.

    I notice this too, even among those whom I'm sure don't intend to show him any disrespect.

    •  Has it been shown to all presidents? (3+ / 0-)
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      ConfusedSkyes, jabney, Miniaussiefan

      I think protocols vary from one media outlet to another, but I don't think any of them refer to a president as "President __" in every instance.  One common convention is to use the title "President" for the first instance, and then "Mr. ___" thereafter.  And I do remember Republicans whining about stories that used "Mr. Bush" instead of "President Bush".  
      I'd want to see proof that they're treating Obama differently before I'd get too upset about this.

  •  i have been making a point of doing that (0+ / 0-)

    for quite awhile now...it drives  certain people nuts, I'm sure. more reason to continue doing it.

  •  NPR at least did an analysis -they have rules (5+ / 0-)

    about this stuff -the first time in a piece he must be referred to as President Obama and then after that is is fair game -until x amount of time. They compared it to when they were covering Bush 43 and actually found that it they said "President Obama" more frequently than "President Bush"  -they said they kept convention that it doesn't have to be "President Obama" each and every time.
    Since then I really don't worry about it and take my cues from the POTS -dust off your shoulders, hold your head high and get the job done.

    •  Yes, and thank you for that. (0+ / 0-)

      Personally, I wouldn't mind being called names if I could blow up the whole effing world.

      You know, I sometimes think if I could see, I'd be kicking a lot of ass. -Stevie Wonder at the Glastonbury Festival, 2010

      by Rich in PA on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 09:34:07 AM PST

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  •  People can be as disrespectful as they want to be (1+ / 0-)
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    jabney

    That's one of the many endearing things about our country.  Personally I have been respectful of our presidents even when they've been named Bush, but if someone wants to call this one a fascist and that one a Muslim that's fine with me.  As we've seen, there are, eventually, electoral consequences to treating people the wrong way whether they're school teachers or Presidents.

    You know, I sometimes think if I could see, I'd be kicking a lot of ass. -Stevie Wonder at the Glastonbury Festival, 2010

    by Rich in PA on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 09:33:27 AM PST

  •  This is not disrespect. (2+ / 0-)
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    jabney, Chitown Kev

    It is a journalistic style standard that most media uses.  I think it was originally developed for printed media to save space and was picked up by broadcast journalism and is completely appropriate.  

    In person, he should always be referred to as Mr. President, no exceptions.  If you start to see interviewers neglect this fact, then you could be concerned. :)

    •  I disagree wholeheartedly and am very surprised (0+ / 0-)

      at the response!
      There are respectful ways to refer to the President. The first time is to say President Obama and thereafter Mr. President of simply the President.
      If words mean so little, why were certain words used by some candidates deemed inflammable and others not?
      Regardless how subtle it is, it is a method used to never reinforce the idea that this uppity man never really became President of these United States and it is used predominately used by those who respect him the least.
      Frankly I'm flabbergasted that people are willing to let this roll off they're back. I'm willing to bet none of these commenters were ever upset to be called "boy".

      "If you tell the truth, you won't have to remember anything", Mark Twain

      by Cruzankenny on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 10:23:20 AM PST

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  •  A rose, by any other name ... (0+ / 0-)

    Clearly there is disrespect, and it is intended.

    For my own part I usually refer to him as "President Obama", but may then use "Barack Obama" later in the same piece. I don't think anyone is in much doubt about my respect for the man, or the Office.

    However, I am never unhappy to hear the Right be as disrespectful as they like. It's sour grapes and when they do it they diminish themselves.

    I am happy when I go to freerepublic, or RedState to read all the distortions and epithets they have for our President.

    It is a measure of their frustration and hatred ... Good!

    I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
    but I fear we will remain Democrats.

    by twigg on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 10:04:55 AM PST

  •  The media continually referred to (0+ / 0-)

    Romney as Governor Romney. When they talk about Clinton, the refer to him as President Clinton. They also refer to Bush as President Bush. They seldom even say "former" to any of those people, yet the pundits can't bring themselves to say "president" Obama. Listen carefully when they refer to the formers by their title but not the current office holder.

  •  This is such a non-story (1+ / 0-)
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    Miniaussiefan

    the journalistic conventions are very clear and available in any style manual. And I've noticed that they are pretty scrupulous in following them and always have been.

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