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I have an interesting question.
Obama won large margins among almost every imaginable group.
93% Blacks
69% Hispanics
74% Asians
70% Jews
50% Catholics
55% of women
60% of the young
52% of 30-44 year olds
Majorities of no college, some college and postgraduates.
86% Liberals and even 56% of moderates

But he only got 39% of the white vote.
Since the whites are the only race that voted against Obama in such large numbers, I wonder, why do most whites (men in particular) only vote for their own race, is it racism, or pride of having their own elected?
Whenever I saw a white dude endorse Romney I right away thought, yeah, what can I do, whites endorse whites

(You see where I am going)

7:16 PM PT: I am not belittling the white vote, since they were still 70% of the vote total, they made up 59% of Obama's vote total.
My point is that when whites are the ONLY race that voted for Romney, nobody thinks they are racist, like they said about Collin Powell.

Poll

What 'looks' more racist

18%9 votes
81%40 votes

| 49 votes | Vote | Results

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  •  I frankly don't agree with going this way... (5+ / 0-)
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    Grannyflats, Plu, DeadHead, Manny, dennis1958

    ...we're being fed a line that whites didn't go for Obama. 40% did! That's really quite a lot! It's 40%!

    it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses

    by Addison on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 06:56:02 PM PST

    •  Don't get offended, I'm also white (2+ / 0-)

      And actually, 59% of Obama's vote totals are from whites.
      I am just trying to make a point, when blacks vote for blacks, it's because they see color only, but not when whites do it.

      •  Haha, not offended... (2+ / 0-)
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        DeadHead, historys mysteries

        ...and I agree with your point. It's just a shame to gloss over the point that Obama got a HUGE coalition in his elections.

        it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses

        by Addison on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 07:18:15 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

      •  Name a single black person ... (0+ / 0-)

        who voted in 45 presidential elections.  Just one name will do.  At LEAST one name is necessary to support the poll wording.

        And by the way, there were black presidential candidates who ran before Obama came along.  Alan Keyes, for example, has run three times already.

        "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the universe." -- Albert Einstein

        by Neuroptimalian on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 08:38:17 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

    •  A more accurate phrasing (0+ / 0-)

      would be

      Would more whites, who where open to voting either Democratic or Republican, have voted for Obama if he was white?
      But it's an impossible question to answer.

      -
      Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us.
      ~ Jerry Garcia

      by DeadHead on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 07:13:57 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  Well... (1+ / 0-)
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        DeadHead

        ...compare Obama's map to Clinton's. I feel like there's an answer there.

        it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses

        by Addison on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 07:18:57 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  True (0+ / 0-)

          It's easy to compare this president with a previous white Democratic president. That's all we can do.

          I was coming at it from the impossible perspective of: what if everything about Obama was the same, and you changed his skin color to white?

          In other words, comparing himself with a slightly modified version of himself.

          We might get a little further with your approach... ;-P

          -
          Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us.
          ~ Jerry Garcia

          by DeadHead on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 07:28:04 PM PST

          [ Parent ]

        •  Different election (1+ / 0-)
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          DeadHead

          The question is whether, say a Biden - Obama ticket would have fared better.  Even that's a different story.

          This has been a golden age for confirmation bias. - David Brooks

          by Mindful Nature on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 07:53:17 PM PST

          [ Parent ]

    •  Actually (0+ / 0-)

      10% TO 30% of southern whites voted for Obama

      but majorities of midwestern, northeastern and pacific coast whites voted for Obama.

      So, actually, 40% of "whites" voted, but that's a pretty heterogeneous group.

      You know, if you lump heterogenous groups together you can get nonsensical results.  For example, only 20% of Americans voted for Obama, so obviously they must be racist too!  (If you forget that turnout wasn't 100% and a lot of people are under 18 or disenfranchised....)

      This has been a golden age for confirmation bias. - David Brooks

      by Mindful Nature on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 07:52:17 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  if he got almost 40% of the white vote.. (3+ / 0-)
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    Plu, librarisingnsf, Manny

    It's pretty good. Considering that there's that crazy 30% Republican base, I think he did almost as well as any Democrat could have done.

    This Rover crossed over.. Willie Nelson, written by Dorothy Fields

    by Karl Rover on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 07:01:45 PM PST

  •  I'm not all of them based their vote (0+ / 0-)

    on skin color.

    But a lot of them probably did.

    Unless there's some kind of exit poll that asked

    How much weight to you put on a candidates skin color when deciding how to cast your vote?
    then we might be able to have a better picture.

    I'm white, and my vote for Obama was based partially on his skin color. Why? Because it's about damn time we got somebody in office who ain't white.

    Next stop: somebody who ain't male.

    -
    Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us.
    ~ Jerry Garcia

    by DeadHead on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 07:03:23 PM PST

  •  Obama Also Lost Age 40 and Over. (1+ / 0-)
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    turn blue

    But the margin for Gen X and Boomers was very close. That reflects the fact that we totally surrendered the Medicare issue war 3 years ago and have never won it back from the Republicans. But Gen X and Boomers don't only vote for their race.

    It's a complicated mix of many factors.

    Check other diaries pointing out that even poor whites vote Democratic not race. The white majority vote favoring race is only the upper half of incomes, and that means the economic message of the white party is a big factor.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 07:08:42 PM PST

  •  Although (0+ / 0-)

    it's probably more like 30-something whites, since black people didn't have the vote until after Lincoln.

  •  Maybe I voted for Obama's half-Irish part (1+ / 0-)
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    happymisanthropy

    Of course, the Irish were considered non-white, too, at one point in our nation's illustrious history.

    Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.

    by winsock on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 07:11:41 PM PST

  •  white men are usually right-wing. (0+ / 0-)

    Not much more to it than that.

    also, white man here.

    I have as much authority as the Pope, I just don't have as many people who believe it.

    by adamsmo on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 07:13:07 PM PST

    •  Where do you get this from? (1+ / 0-)
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      debedb

      "Right wing" is a rather strong label to attach to skin color.

      -
      Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us.
      ~ Jerry Garcia

      by DeadHead on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 07:18:01 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  Every poll. (1+ / 0-)
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        DeadHead

        They're more against abortion, more against same-sex marriage (all the while being less religious), are significantly more apt to describe themselves 'convervative', and, really, it's tough to find any issue that they don't poll well to the right of the general public.

        I have as much authority as the Pope, I just don't have as many people who believe it.

        by adamsmo on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 09:44:08 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  Well, why not just say (0+ / 0-)

          White men tend to be more conservative?

          "Right wing" doesn't equal "more to the right on social issues."

          Just a quibble. I understand what your saying now that you expanded your comment.

          -
          Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us.
          ~ Jerry Garcia

          by DeadHead on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 10:39:06 PM PST

          [ Parent ]

  •  A conundrum. (1+ / 0-)
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    dennis1958

    If Obama was a Republican they'd vote for him. And when he told a joke they'd laugh. And they'd chant, "Yes We Can," with tears in their eyes.

    People are bundle of contradictions.

    "The human eye is a wonderful device. With a little effort, it can fail to see even the most glaring injustice." Richard K. Morgan

    by sceptical observer on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 07:47:56 PM PST

  •  I was watching Bill Maher last weekend (1+ / 0-)
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    dennis1958

    He had Samuel L. Jackson on as a guest.  Mr. Jackson said something like, "I got a  lot of flack for saying that I voted for Obama because he was black (and I did) but that wasn't the only reason, the other reason was because I am black."

    Now, what that meant to me was that a black man in America would be stupid to vote for Romney given his attitude toward minorities.

    "I watch Fox News for my comedy, and Comedy Central for my news." - Facebook Group

    by Sychotic1 on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 08:25:20 PM PST

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