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It needs to happen, and luckily the president himself stated so. Hope people read as this should be a huge issue, sweep away Election Fraud, by an Amendment it would seem unpatriotic to oppose.

People don't seem to completely (some) grasp VetWife's diary. This isn't about Florida in specific, but about something that should be a priority.

Most laws (IIRC) re voting are state. The Fed just says you have to let women, etc vote. There is no "right" to vote anywhere.

Woman’s suffrage- Doesn’t say who can vote just says if vote is conferred it cannot be abridged on account of sex.   

 26th amendment, right of citizens of US who are 18th or older to vote, shall not be denied on account of age.

But, there is a gap in a "right" and the State's leeway. We are here 12 years after 2000 looking at worse lines (because 2000 made it a "tactic" in R's estimation).

There should be. . . and now is the time . . . how can you be against a right to vote in the constitution regardless of party, if you are, then are R's really "protecting" voting integrity if it says required to reasonable access (ie long lines not acceptable), reasonable actions of state to accomodate long lines (ie bs in FL, elsewhere), you may not even need to get into ID's (otherwise that is their cue to find something).

As the lines are fresh in people's mind's. Obama off the cuff stated "we need to fix".

I would say that should be brought up early and now (only helps us). Short, and then makes a lot of laws that will or are in affect unconstutional.

Something like this but I'd include "Reasonable access" as locking doors, 10 hr lines, etc. would be illegal.

   

SECTION 1. All citizens of the United States, who are eighteen years of age or older, shall have the right to vote in any public election held in the jurisdiction in which the citizen resides. The right to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States, any State, or any other public or private person or entity, except that the United States or any State may establish regulations narrowly tailored to produce efficient and honest elections.

    SECTION 2. Each State shall administer public elections in the State in accordance with election performance standards established by the Congress. The Congress shall reconsider such election performance standards at least once every four years to determine if higher standards should be established to reflect improvements in methods and practices regarding the administration of elections.

    SECTION 3. Each State shall provide any eligible voter the opportunity to register and vote on the day of any public election.

    SECTION 4. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

You present it as a fundamental challenge to democracy while fresh in the minds of people. I don't care who you are, I know a Republican, voted for Romney and was pissed he got hassled. Fair on both sides, and has been needed for decades.

That is a slam dunk PR wise, politically, etc. Wait too long and people forget (see forgetting 800k jobs lost/month).
 

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  •  I'm persuaded. As you say, who has the gall to (7+ / 0-)

    stand up publicly against the right to vote?



    Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary? . . . and respect the dignity of every human being.

    by Wee Mama on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 10:28:33 AM PST

  •  Why Not Also Change the Concept of Election "Day" (6+ / 0-)

    and make it, say, a one week period?

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 10:28:52 AM PST

  •  Need to change (4+ / 0-)

    SECTION 3.

    Each State shall provide any eligible voter the opportunity to register and vote on the day of any public election. The State shall make all reasonable assurances that the ability of a voter to cast their vote shall not be abridged by lack of access to polling locations. The voting resources and time periods to vote shall be uniform and proportional to the voting population accessing any voting location for all voting locations within a state.

    There is no environmental, social, economic or resource problem that wouldn't be helped by 3 billion fwer people on the planet.

    by tjlord on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 10:30:30 AM PST

  •  how about require people to vote (5+ / 0-)

    I've been thinking on that recently, I don't see why we shouldn't eliminate all of the "firing up the base" to "GOTV" and focus instead on policies that convince the majority of Americans to vote for our candidate.

    •  Because not voting should still be an option. (1+ / 0-)
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      Wee Mama

      People who are really disengaged enough with the process to sit it out, who really don't see how their voting decisions affect their lives, are a challenge not for our laws but for our rhetoric.

      Not to mention, how would that work in practice? My dad told me before the election that I'm technically still registered to vote in my hometown, despite not having lived (or voted) there in over a decade; would I be brought up on charges for not voting there, despite the fact that I did vote where I currently live? Would voting be required by law for every election at every level—whether primary or general, municipal or federal?

      Would I be required to fill out every race on the ballot, or could I still leave races blank? If not, what would prevent me from just taking the blank ballot straight from the little old lady who gave it to me to the counting machine, without actually voting for anyone—or what percentage of races would I have to vote on in order to count as having voted?

      If so, particularly in municipal elections—where I'll confess that I leave a few slots blank because I didn't have the time to look into the candidates—what would prevent sheer name recognition or being the first name listed from becoming the winner by default?

      Wouldn't requiring everyone to vote on every race—and thus flooding the polls with uninformed voters who wouldn't have voted if they weren't forced to by law—threaten to drown out those who have educated themselves or who are passionate about the issues?

      "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." --Dom Helder Camara, archbishop of Recife

      by JamesGG on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 11:20:04 AM PST

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      •  I don't see why not voting should be an option (2+ / 0-)
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        Clem Yeobright, Wee Mama

        I don't know about all the other small stones you're throwing in there, but other places do require people to vote and they seem fine (like Australia). I'm sure we would work it out and seems to me have a better democracy for having done it.

        •  Because if a person... (3+ / 0-)
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          erush1345, Wee Mama, rmx2630

          ...doesn't want to express their opinion, they shouldn't have to. If a person thinks the whole damn system sucks and doesn't want to prop it up with their vote, they shouldn't have to participate.

          The right to free speech is also the right to not speak if one chooses not to speak.

          As for "the other small stones," they're actually pretty significant in the question of implementation. You should think about them for a bit before advocating this policy.

          "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." --Dom Helder Camara, archbishop of Recife

          by JamesGG on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 11:31:34 AM PST

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          •  I don't agree, people have to sit on juries (2+ / 0-)
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            We, as a society, don't allow people to sit silent on the sidelines. They are required to participate to make our democracy work.

            •  Juries are different... (0+ / 0-)

              ...because those who sit on a jury also are required to be at the trial, where they get all of the information they need to make an informed decision about someone's life. Unless you're also proposing that we force all citizens to sit through campaign speeches from every candidate, that's not the case here.

              Juries also don't consist of the entire body of the citizenry—just the 12 people selected to represent the citizenry to pass judgment.

              "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." --Dom Helder Camara, archbishop of Recife

              by JamesGG on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 11:41:00 AM PST

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          •  Compulsory voting does not require a person (3+ / 0-)

            to express an opinion. In most places with compulsory voting, people are perfectly free to turn in blank ballots.

            "In an individual, selfishness uglifies the soul; for the human species, selfishness is extinction." -Cloud Atlas, by David Mitchell

            by rigcath on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 11:42:21 AM PST

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      •  In Australia, you have to cast a ballot but the (2+ / 0-)
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        Vetwife, rigcath

        ballot can be blank (or have silly names written in for the races)



        Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary? . . . and respect the dignity of every human being.

        by Wee Mama on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 03:31:24 PM PST

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  •  Looks like a door to VOTER ID (0+ / 0-)
    The Congress shall reconsider such election performance standards at least once every four years to determine if higher standards should be established to reflect improvements in methods and practices regarding the administration of elections.
    Sounds like Congress could enact Voter ID in order in improve methodology.  Eventually the house/senate/potus will turn (R), every pendulum turns.  This will give them an opportunity to enshrine Voter ID.  

    Minority rights should never be subject to majority vote.

    by lostboyjim on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 10:43:00 AM PST

    •  How about something like (2+ / 0-)
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      deep, Cedwyn

      "Any and all materials required to cast a vote in an election must be provided, at no cost, to all citizens within a state no later than two weeks prior to the start of the election." That may prevent the discriminatory aspects of voter ID.

      "In an individual, selfishness uglifies the soul; for the human species, selfishness is extinction." -Cloud Atlas, by David Mitchell

      by rigcath on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 10:52:20 AM PST

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  •  As Mama used to say Strike while the iron is hot (2+ / 0-)
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    Well it doesn't get much hotter than what we just went through.   A movement is needed to right the wrongs of voter intimidation and no recourse to remove some bad governing.   What was it President Obama said election night, "We got to fix that".  Well we should.  We can't wait on one man or one state.

    We the People have to make a difference and the Change.....Just do it ! Be part of helping us build a veteran community online. United Veterans of America

    by Vetwife on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 10:44:07 AM PST

  •  How about requiring a Selective Service type (2+ / 0-)
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    Clem Yeobright, Wee Mama

    of voter registration on the 18th birthday?

    We the People have to make a difference and the Change.....Just do it ! Be part of helping us build a veteran community online. United Veterans of America

    by Vetwife on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 10:46:05 AM PST

  •  I would throw in a clause that in effect overturns (4+ / 0-)
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    rigcath, Cedwyn, Wee Mama, Vetwife

    the Citizen's United decision as well and perhaps caps legal contributions to campaigns and elections requiring that a listing of all such contributions be available to the public.

    We have only just begun and none too soon.

    by global citizen on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 10:46:25 AM PST

  •  I came up with (3+ / 0-)
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    rigcath, Wee Mama, Vetwife

    this in a thread a couple of days ago:

    http://www.dailykos.com/...

    Republicans are like alligators. All mouth and no ears.

    by Ohiodem1 on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 10:51:59 AM PST

  •  voting by mail (3+ / 0-)
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    Ohiodem1, rigcath, Wee Mama

    eliminates most of the opportunity for disenfranchisement.

    but i'm for an amendment, if that's what it takes.

    Please don't dominate the rap, Jack, if you got nothin' new to say - Grateful Dead

    by Cedwyn on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 11:03:37 AM PST

  •  not a slam dunk (0+ / 0-)

    and really a distraction from more pressing issues.

    "we should fix that"

    doesn't mean changing the constitution imo.  which as a remedy fails the pragmatic test.

    how long did the last one take to get ratified/certified?

    -You want to change the system, run for office.

    by Deep Texan on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 11:10:13 AM PST

  •  Automoatic restortation of civil rights for felons (1+ / 0-)
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    Vetwife

    to full rights of citizenship.

  •  The simpler the better the more long winded (0+ / 0-)

    the easier for GOP to insert crap and later use against citizens voting.

  •  Federal govt should take over federal elections. (1+ / 0-)
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    Vetwife

    We should vote for Presidential electors, Senators, and House members under federal registration and federal rules uniformly across the country on a single ballot administered by a federal agency.

    If states want to piggy-back their elections on the national election, they can have a separate ballot and a separate room at the same location - at their expense.

    It should be in-and-out in 15 minutes for everybody for national office.

    Am I right, or am I right? - The Singing Detective

    by Clem Yeobright on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 11:58:21 AM PST

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