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UN climate scientist: Sandy no coincidence and they are covering DOHA.  Sandy's horrific consequences on the people who's lives were torn apart has hopefully gotten some attention from the mainstream.

Though it's tricky to link a single weather event to climate change, Hurricane Sandy was "probably not a coincidence" but an example of the extreme weather events that are likely to strike the U.S. more often as the world gets warmer, the U.N. climate panel's No. 2 scientist said Tuesday.
We're learning the hard way that Climate Change is expensive, it costs billions in dollars and can cost lives.  The damage it does in far away lands can only be held arm's length away for so long when it lands on our shores as extreme weather.  Tricky or not, as more extreme weather becomes more consistent and more extreme it becomes not just weather, it becomes CLIMATE CHANGE.

There is just no other issue more pressing than the environment in my generation or my daughter's generation.  There is nothing else.

It is not correct to say Sandy was caused by global warming, but "the damage caused by Sandy was worse because of sea level rise," said Princeton University climate scientist Michael Oppenheimer. He said the sea level in New York City is a foot higher than a century ago because of man-made climate change.
Ignoring the crisis before has consequences and just because those consequences don't fit our models of what we think it should look like, that more snow in winter must mean it's not getting warmer or fewer hurricanes must mean it's just not that big of a deal boggles my mind.

What needs to happen is that the people who support science need to be talking to those who are still skeptical.  It has to come down to those of us who want to listen to scientists to actually start selling reality to our fellow doubters.  Right now, this is what needs to happen.  It's got to be grassroots and it needs to be on street corners.

And how can you convince people?

He said the scientific backing for man-made climate change is now so strong that it can be compared to the consensus behind the principles of gravity.

"It's a very, very broad consensus. There are a few individuals who don't believe it, but we are talking about science and not beliefs," Van Ypersele told AP.

Emphasis mine

I'm getting a bumper sticker made:

Climate Change, as strong a theory as gravity.

That's your money quote there and it's important to get it out far and wide.  

I know it's naive to believe that we can somehow make a difference but it's obvious what were doing now is not working and change needs to happen sooner than later.  The push has to come from the bottom up and it needs to happen now.

This is a great short film by National Geographic on Global Warming.

Originally posted to Ellinorianne on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 10:51 PM PST.

Also republished by Climate Change SOS and Climate Hawks.

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  •  Tip Jar (22+ / 0-)

    My 8-year-old, Charlotte, asked if Herman Cain's tax plan was called, "Mine, mine, mine!"

    by Ellinorianne on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 10:51:36 PM PST

  •  Gravity's got nothing on climate change (7+ / 0-)

    We know what's causing climate change. We still aren't sure what causes gravity. ;D

    I'd probably keep the bumper sticker a bit shorter

    Climate Change -- As Real As Gravity

    To me progress is not so much a goal as it is a process and I believe it will not follow a straight course. Remember, the drops of water that form the river may not take the shortest path but they will still reach the ocean.

    by ontheleftcoast on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 11:03:29 PM PST

    •  No one has detected a gravity wave yet (2+ / 0-)
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      ontheleftcoast, Ellinorianne

      The record smashing heat wave of the summer of 2012 affected all Americans with higher food prices and a toll of misery.

      Of course, gravity is real, but the Koch brothers would deny gravity if got in the way of making money from tar sands.

      look for my eSci diary series Thursday evening.

      by FishOutofWater on Wed Nov 28, 2012 at 06:00:17 AM PST

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  •  Reminds me of Big Momma Thorton's self-label: (4+ / 0-)

    "Stronger than Dirt." (Not to mention my label for her of "better than her imitator," as much as I loved Janis.)

     And, yep -- sadly, we've had to get to the point where the effects of climate change (March, the drought, the wildfires, & Sandy all in one year) are as obvious to us as the apple's falling on his head was to Newton to start to make real progress with the public against the criminal deniers associated with the fossil-fuel related industries.  Unfortunately, I think it's going to take many more catastrophes before the world really gets its collective head out of its ass & takes the threat as seriously as it needs to, thanks to a major degree to the sociopathic leaders of our fossil-fuel industries & their political pimps, parasitic pseudo-scientists, & PR hacks.  I wish I still believed in hell so that
    I could sincerely wish that they would rot there forever.  

  •  Gravity is a Hoax! (3+ / 0-)
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    Roger Otip, WarrenS, Ellinorianne

    Comment I saw on Fox Nation:


     its not science, science has debunked the commie scheme.

    “The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.” ~ John Kenneth Galbraith

    by Lefty Coaster on Wed Nov 28, 2012 at 12:05:59 AM PST

  •  and the sunday talk shows (8+ / 0-)

    will have on no scientists, but will have a democrat to confirm the science, and whatever lunatic republican they can find to deny... gravity.

    because every story has to have two sides...

    The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

    by Laurence Lewis on Wed Nov 28, 2012 at 12:07:23 AM PST

  •  I Come From A Family Of PhDs (3+ / 0-)
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    WarrenS, Ellinorianne, ontheleftcoast

    To be very blunt in my household you are not allowed to be stupid. It just isn't allowed. I don't know how ease to say it.

    We used to have this thing in my hosue I miss. It didn't matter what we were doing, at 5:30 PM come hell or high water you were home to sit down with the family for dinner.

    We had ranging conversations. I think once we might have figured out world peace at the dinner table.  

    When opportunity calls pick up the phone and give it directions to your house.

    by webranding on Wed Nov 28, 2012 at 01:06:12 AM PST

  •  Obama signs airline carbon exemption... (2+ / 0-)
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    then opens up vast swaths of Gulf to oil exploration.

    These are in the grand scheme small potatoes issues, but with the US refusing to budge and increase its measly commitments to CO2 reduction in Doha "you climate change people" are surely now over the brief flattery of having our crucial issue briefly discussed by the president after Sandy. It's not that I think Obama doesn't believe the science. He's just not someone who has environmentalism at the center of his political conscience, and he falls too easily into lower the priority of the issue. He doesn't grasp the urgency and sees making compromises in order to achieve some baby steps toward lowering emissions as adequate until the politics are more favorable for more decisive action. But the clock is ticking. We have to peak emissions in 2020 then sharply decline in order to stick at 2c. Otherwise we risk pushing to disastrous 4c. Obama is not going to push the issue in order to create political conditions for decisive action. He's going to wait and compromise. That leaves one course of action for campaigners against climate change at this urgent moment: BLOCKADE.

    Passive renunciation is not the whole of wisdom.

    by play jurist on Wed Nov 28, 2012 at 04:59:43 AM PST

  •  EVERYBODY knows... (2+ / 0-)
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    WarrenS, Ellinorianne

    "gravity" is just a vile liberal plot to keep real patriotic Americans out of heaver.  Well, it ain't gonna work!

    The more you learn the less you know.

    by quiet in NC on Wed Nov 28, 2012 at 05:37:59 AM PST

  •  Its just basic electromagnetism (1+ / 0-)
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    19th century E&M.  Reflection and absorption.  Maxwell's equations at its heart.  The bedrock of the modern world.

  •  and many of our universities lead the denial (1+ / 0-)
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    those universities should be default protest locations on global warming until they pull their support for RW radio.

    the most significant denial enabler in the country is RW radio and our universities endorse it by broadcasting sports on possibly as many as 1/3 of those stations.

    rush imbaugh was named denialist of 2011 by media matters. he has informed more people on recent research than scientists. national and local RW blowhards preach denial 24/7 and have a revolving lineup of professional denialists from the RW think tanks as guests.

    climatologist michael mann, who with other climate scientists  has received death threats due to attacks by limbaugh and other RW blowhards, said the east anglia 'email gate' fraud set public opinion back years and helped defang copenhagen. limbaugh and RW radio were the main driving force in creating that fraud.

    the GOP doesn't need science and public opinion to temper their enthusiastic support for their fossil fuels and nuclear industries- they have 1000 coordinated and unchallenged/ignored radio stations getting their backs and intimidating truth tellers.

    the support of RW radio by our institutions of higher learning is absurd and needs attention from environmental groups.
    how many climate activists is one RW blowhard with pro CO2 talking points and a giant microphone festooned with local school team logos worth?

    This is a list of 76 universities for Rush Limbaugh that endorse global warming denial, racism, sexism, and partisan lying by broadcasting sports on Limbaugh radio stations.

    by certainot on Wed Nov 28, 2012 at 07:11:32 AM PST

  •  As a theologian friend says (0+ / 0-)

    about belief in God:

    Whether or not you believe in the law of gravity is rather beside the point.
    If you stand on the street and someone drops a large heavy object off the neighboring 5-story building, yelling "but it's only a theory!" won't help much.

    That's where we are on climate change. Denial just reduces the possibility of both mitigating it and getting out of the way.

  •  job oppo (1+ / 0-)
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    Just saw this today for any env'al kossacks out of work:

    Who We Are

    We are a group of designers, programmers, writers, activists, and solar finance experts dedicated to building a new way to crowdfund clean energy for communities. At present, Mosaic is in a SEC-mandated quiet period, meaning we can’t reveal too much about our plans for the future. What we can say is that our goal is to make it much easier for anyone to access the benefits of clean energy, while also dramatically accelerating the deployment of rooftop solar power. During our beta phase, we brought together hundreds of people to invest over $350,000 in financing five rooftop solar power plants. We recently received a $2 million grant from the US Department of Energy to take our crowdfunding solar model to scale.


    Positions on the Mosaic Blog Leadership Team are unpaid and highly selective. Leadership Team members will be expected to do each of the following every month: produce two blog posts and participate in two meetings (via phone).

    I will send How to Apply info to anyone who wants it via kosmail

    Good job getting back into the blog scene, E!

    And remember: if we fail on climate change, nothing else matters. - WarrenS

    by LaughingPlanet on Wed Nov 28, 2012 at 08:52:40 AM PST

  •  Gravity is one of the basic 4 (1+ / 0-)
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    forces of nature*.  Climatology and the theories around global warming use combinations of those basic 4:  chemistry, fluid dynamics, thermodynamics, E-M (via light), gravity (via the geoid), etc.  Not to mention that serious left-wing conspiracy -- mathematics!

    So I'd argue that the "Climate Change is as real as Gravity!" is the better wording.

    *gravitation, electro-magnetism, strong nuclear, weak nuclear

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