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You creationists, you apes, you God-fearin, knowledge-hatin drag-chutes-on-humanity, what hubris is this?

"Humans are created in God's image, and are to be like Him and superior to all else on earth".... Really? What nonsense. Prideful, tail-swallowing nonsense. And, like many other similarly insidious examples of prideful, tail-swallowing nonsense, some of us just lap it up.

I guess some people like to feel superior to the things/beings/people around them. For my part, I see myself and all other human beings as miracles, every one. But I see an orangutan as a miracle also. I see my little puppy dog as a miracle. Hell; I see bacteria as a miracle, both the ones making my armpits stink and the ones currently digesting my breakfast for me. Not miracles in the sense that God wrinkled her nose and they appeared, but miracles in the sense that, no matter their explanation, we are blessed to be a part of them.

Life itself is a miracle. As is its only known cradle and mother, earth.

But those are big concepts, aren't they? It's a lot simpler to believe that you have a leg-up in the miracle department; that you are especially miraculous and need not concern yourself with the not-miracles around you. Makes you feel powerful, and safe.

Hubris. And worse, it's blasphemy. At least by my standards it is. Rank. Explicit. Blasphemy.

My response is below the fold.

Human beings? .... Divine form? ..... Bwahahahathehellusay?  

Is that why we so often grow into murderous fiends?

Is that why women (you know, like the woman who gave birth to you) are such tragic characters in almost every page of our history?

Is that why millions of people die of starvation yearly, about 25,000 just today, while a few hundred control resources rivaling that of the entire developing world?

Is that why military spending, i.e. procurement, development and deployment of devices which kill people, accounts for well over 1/2 of government expenditures worldwide?

Is that why, even now, human beings live on this earth whose neighbors, and governments, treat them as less than human?

Is that why the bosses' vast fortunes are protected free speech, guarded like Fort Knox, while the laborers' meager pensions are expendable entitlements?

Is that why Dick Cheney gets a new heart while a 25-year-old kid is labeled "uninsurable" and dies of a viscious God-damned gum infection?

Is that why there are some among us who write off entire species, entire ecosystems, our global climate, because... $$?

What the hell kind of God is that if we are made to be like Him and walk in His steps? What kind of messed up example is it?

It looks like the behavior of a bunch of animals to me; the dirtiest of the damned dirty apes. Like it or not it's what we are. And, although savagery among us should always draw our ire, to deny its formative place within ourselves is to deny ourselves, and all the universe beside.

God does not lie.

Sometimes I'd rather be a gorilla.

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  •  It is the mentality you describe (7+ / 0-)

    that justifies the performing of medical experiments on apes and other higher animals. I don't understand why ethical treatment of others should only apply to others of our particular species. Lab experimentation on primates is a scourge on humanity IMO.

    •  I agree (2+ / 0-)
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      mahakali overdrive, soarbird

      Taken literally such an attitude is a license to do pretty much anything. We've spoiled our own nest, and laid waste to untold numbers of our fellow earthlings doing it, but we are 'God's chosen', the 'divine form', so it doesn't matter.


      "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." - Isaac Asimov

      by Hammerhand on Sun Dec 09, 2012 at 11:47:30 AM PST

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      •  It all goes back to an Abrahamic belief (2+ / 0-)
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        Hammerhand, soarbird

        in the Great Chain of Being.

        Long story, but yes.

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        by mahakali overdrive on Sun Dec 09, 2012 at 01:06:09 PM PST

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        •  And the "evolutionary ladder" (2+ / 0-)
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          is of course a self-congratulatory artiface.

          In no dimension, except "human-ness" is man "at the top" of the ladder.

          not fastest, not longest living, not most fecund, not most robust, not longest surviving in evolutionary terms, not best flyer, not best swimmer, not most widely spread on the planet, not able to live under water, not most numerous, and on and on. We haven't even caused the most drastic changes in the climate or atmosphere of the world- blue-green algae and bacteria did that.

          Only if one defines the evolutionary ladder as one leading to humans does man come out on top.  

          As my father used to say,"We have the best government money can buy."

          by BPARTR on Sun Dec 09, 2012 at 02:26:47 PM PST

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  •  God Made Man (7+ / 0-)
    God made man
    but he used the monkey to do it
    apes in the plan
    we're all here to prove it
    i can walk like an ape
    talk like an ape
    do what a monkey do
    god made man
    but a monkey supplied the glue

    -devo, jocko homo

    There’s always free cheddar in a mousetrap, baby

    by bernardpliers on Sun Dec 09, 2012 at 10:43:06 AM PST

  •  Any religion too small to expand to meet science (8+ / 0-)

    as an equal is not to be taken seriously. And the number of religions that view themselves as at war with science are very small and exercise an outsized level of political influence. Conservatives and their fellow travelers are driving this country and this world back in to the Dark Ages. Yes I know the term Dark Ages should not be applied to the period right after the fall of Rome. But the term does apply to where we are heading.

    •  I have never subscribed to the (3+ / 0-)
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      "equal Magisteria" crap.

      Any religion too small to expand to meet science

      as an equal is not to be taken seriously

      I understand the point you are trying to make, but Science and Religion are not equal..

      One is a stone-age belief system conjured up out of whole cloth to try to explain the world in the time before science was invented. It is immune to testing or prediction.  It requires faith- the belief in the unbelievable.   The other is the actual explanation of the world continually expanded as we elucidate it.

      As my father used to say,"We have the best government money can buy."

      by BPARTR on Sun Dec 09, 2012 at 02:21:41 PM PST

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      •  I think you are making an assumption about (0+ / 0-)

        religion that is not universal. One can fully accept science as a complete understanding of the way the universe works and still have religious belief. One does not believe in evolution one understands evolution as a fact in nature. Facts are accepted. Belief extends to areas that can not be tested scientifically and religion is not a competing with science over who or what is right.

        Talking about a religious understanding of scientific fact is like talking about a literary understanding of scientific fact. Religion has very little to do with science. They address very different areas of human intellectual activity. Anyone who says that a creation story is scientifically accurate is being neither scientific nor religious. That person is just plain old ignorant.

        You can not lump all religions together and make assumptions about them as a general class, It is much more complicated than that. The vast majority of Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindis, etc have no issue or argument with science. they view science as being outside their competence level. They support full scientific inquiry. It is only a tiny loud minority that have in part hijacked the political process that has made this an issue. I am an agnostic, in part because I am convinced that no one is competent to address the question of the existence of God. I remain unconvinced by either side. It seems that atheists are chasing opponents that are not worth arguing with.

        Science and religion are not equal. In the same way that philosophy is not equal with science. They study completely separate enterprises. Yet I do not here wide spread denouncation of philosophers.

        •  perhaps... (0+ / 0-)
          Yet I do not here wide spread denouncation of philosophers

 is because we do not often see philosophers killing us for disbelieving their fantasies or magisteria.  Neither do we see them trying to incluence sciance curriculua or health care policy.

          If religious people kept their fantastical beliefs to themselves, or did not try to  force others to accept them, I would have no problem with religion.  As it stands, I pay for their religions in my taxes, and they try to legislate my life based upon their faith.

          As an aside, I do not understand the argument that because one cannot disprove existance of any particular god that one should believe in the existence of any of them or be agnostic about them.  I cannot disprove that a 10 foot rabbit lives in my basement- but I don't see a need to be agnostic about it.  I don't believe a 10 foot rabbit lives in my basement.

          As my father used to say,"We have the best government money can buy."

          by BPARTR on Mon Dec 10, 2012 at 06:14:44 PM PST

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  •  It's the other way around (3+ / 0-)

    Humans create God and gods in their own image.  There isn't any reason to exist, so what the hell, everybody has to make it up with whatever they got.

    Republicans: Taking the country back ... to the 19th century

    by yet another liberal on Sun Dec 09, 2012 at 11:14:54 AM PST

  •  Very small God who can't work thru a billions year (2+ / 0-)
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    process of evolution from the primordial to us and beyond (and tens of billions if you include the universe - from the iconic Big Bang, "Let There Be Light!" is actually correct, ironically).

    Of course, that necessary implication of 'beyond' likely scares the 'small God-ers' as much as the question of where they came from...

  •  "Inherit the Wind"/Spencer Tracy (2+ / 0-)
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    The Evolution vs. Creationism argument is at the center of the Jerome Lawrence-Robert E. Lee Broadway play Inherit the Wind. Lawrence and Lee's inspiration was the 1925 "Monkey Trial," in which Tennessee schoolteacher John Scopes was arrested for teaching Darwin's theory of evolution in violation of state law.
    •  The tragic end to that trial (5+ / 0-)

      (the real one) was that Scopes was convicted!  Sadly, we have hardly come any further in our educating Americans about the obvious truths that comprise the theory of evolution by natural selection.

      At times I despair over the nonsense which guides the evangelical politicians who rule over us.  I used to believe that no rational reasoning person could possible actually believe the claptrap spouted by Xtians- and Jews and Muslims for that matter, not to mention the even wackier LDS and Morman and Christian Scientist sects.  No I realize that many actually do believe it.  I find it almost incomprehensible that they wish to exist in a world where the laws of nature can be suspended at any moment (eg sun standing still in the sky, people walking on water.....).  Personally, I would rather be able to expect that the sun will "rise" and that gravity will continue.  

      In the absence of any evidence supporting it, I would rather not convince myself that I live in a world ruled by a malevolent god who appears to be  unmoved by suffering and death from tsunamis, earthquakes, hurricanes, disease, pestilence and war but who apparently cares deeply about the outcome of high school football games.  I cannot imagine why others do.

      As my father used to say,"We have the best government money can buy."

      by BPARTR on Sun Dec 09, 2012 at 02:15:36 PM PST

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  •  I love this diary, not for the secular issue (2+ / 0-)
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    vs. the non-secular one, but for the basic fact that I see Liberal Humanism from the Englightenment era as fundamentally flawed and a grand basis for hegemony and oppression of other humans (as well as nonhumans).

    Jacques Derrida said something quite similar in one of his grandest works.

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    by mahakali overdrive on Sun Dec 09, 2012 at 01:05:18 PM PST

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