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I know I have been flooding the Recent Diary list with Senate diaries (and there will be more plus two new Pennsylvania Governor diaries this week from me) but I like to take a breather every now and then on the Daily Kos for some comedy.  I work at Maker Studios which makes all YouTube based content like Epic Rap Battles, Kassem G, Bad Lip Reading and Baracksdubs just to name a few.  I've posted diaries about John Fugelsang of Current TV and the Sexy Liberal Comedy Tour having a show on YouTube's Political Entertainment channel, PoliPop.  His show is called Caffeinated and in the episode John discusses the Confederate Flag.  Through humor and persuasion, John urges Southerners that they're better than their ancestors and that it's time to retire the flag.  

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  •  Tip Jar (9+ / 0-)

    Funny Stuff at http://www.funnyordie.com/oresmas

    by poopdogcomedy on Wed Dec 12, 2012 at 02:44:05 PM PST

  •  Problem: Mississippi will have to burn its... (3+ / 0-)
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    ...flag. There was an attempt there to get rid of that travesty in 2001 and replace it with something not reminiscent of the war to keep slavery. But the voters chose to keep the travesty by 64% to 36%. (The black population of Mississippi is 37%.)

    Some people just cannot let go.

    Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

    by Meteor Blades on Wed Dec 12, 2012 at 03:16:24 PM PST

  •  Fugelsang's point is exactly (3+ / 0-)

    correct, and it boggles my mind how some people refuse to get it. Those who want to claim that the CW was not "about slavery" forget that every single one of their "replacement arguments" only has relevance because of slavery, as Fugelsang makes clear.
    1) Diverging economics of the two sides. Always popular, but guess what? The reason the South was so successfully agrarian? Slave labor!
    2) States' rights. Fugelsang nails this one--the only right that these states were fighting for was the right to own slaves. There isn't another one they didn't already enjoy.
    3) Diverging "cultures." The basis for why southern culture could be distinguished from the non-southern US? That's right: slaveholding! Even if a white person did not own slaves, they either identified with slaveholders, or wanted to be slaveholders. We can see this most clearly surviving today in the Republican Party, where non-rich people vote against their economic interests all the freaking time.

    "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

    by bryduck on Wed Dec 12, 2012 at 04:06:22 PM PST

  •  No they're worse than their ancestors; they should (0+ / 0-)

    Know better but don't.

    (R's) take those tired memes and shove 'em, Denise Velez Oliver, 11/7/2012.

    by a2nite on Wed Dec 12, 2012 at 04:07:46 PM PST

  •  Sorry, but no thanks. (0+ / 0-)

    Just a thought but I personally paid for and distributed thousands of 'Texans For Obama' bumper stickers in 2008 and 2012.  I did this in the blood red county I live in.

    My ancestors fought for the south.  Some died and some survived.

    I have no illusions about the cause of the Civil War.  My family owned no slaves.  But, they fought nevertheless.

    It is a long and confusing matter, not easily understood or explained now.

    I deplore the use of the Confederate flag for racism and such.  Mostly it is misused by the most ignorant.

    But, 'retire it'?  No thanks.  We are a stubborn lot.  Get over it.

    •  What else is it used for? (0+ / 0-)

      Hasn't it been ruined forever for any other use, as the fylfot has?

    •  We may have to accept it... (2+ / 0-)
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      but we never have to "get over it". It is pitiful that Germans are more mature and can own up to their mistakes. Did every German who fought under the Nazi flag do so because of a desire to wipe Jewish people off the Earth? No. But the stain remains and German people realize there is no honor in that flag or the goals of Germany under Hitler. Unfortunately in America some southerners are too cowardly to really truly address the horrible legacy of the Confederate flag and their history as a region (and state of mind) of this country.

      Southerners however see things differently. Maybe it is because in America they never had to apologize for their actions. Maybe it is because the Southern Cause, unlike the the Nazi goals, were glamorized and romanticized in Hollywood epics like Gone With the Wind and Birth of a Nation.  Whatever the reason Southern people never stood up when the Confederate flag was co-opted by Klan rallies and segregationists who used terror and violence to try to put an end to the Civil Rights moment. Not one time were the people who took ownership of that flag, as a symbol to fight for or as a expression of a political statement, ever on the right side of history. Not one time.  Worse of all the flag represents traitors who struck the first blow against the nation of their birth. What does that say of the folks who cling to it?

      There is a large chunk of the population who will always see that flag for what it is: a symbol of what was and is worse about America. And we won't ever change our views regarding this. Get used to it.

      •  last line should be "Get over it." (0+ / 0-)

        No one's perfect.  :/

      •  You paint your beliefs with a broad brush. (0+ / 0-)

        Anyone who seriously studies the Civil War will acknowledge it was not a pretty thing on either side.

        Frankly, living in the north in the 1970's was an eye opener for me.  Having a southern accent invited so much bigotry whispered in soft voices it amazed me.  Things were said by so many that were far from common language used by anyone I knew in Texas.

        I have found in life it is much easier to maintain a bias against people you do not know.  And, to profess their unworthy nature as if it were based on fact.

  •  John forgot to mention that the stars & bars (2+ / 0-)
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    lostinamerica, Nica24

    ,along with the nazi swastika, is the symbol of choice for racists the world over.

    The entire south was a jasmine scented concentration camp. A slow motion holocaust. The southern leaders committed treason and led 200,000 southerners to their deaths. And most never owed a slave. But most belonged to a slave patrol as a matter of duty to their community. And many males would have chased runaways to return them to their 'rightful owners' or kill them.

    If the south would repent the racism, own their crimes against mankind and country, than maybe the heritage argument would have some moral heft. But not now, our southern countrymen can't seem to accept the magnitude of horror and years of racism their culture represents.

  •  It doesn't bother me none (0+ / 0-)

    If people want to fly the flag of a dead and conquered country be my guest.

    I just have to laugh at these same people who spent about 8 years telling others to "LOVE AMERICA OR LEAVE IT?"

    You mean, like the people who made that flag you're flying did? Oh.

    pseudoscience can kill

    by terrypinder on Thu Dec 13, 2012 at 05:13:55 AM PST

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