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BBC News says Aleppo is completely liberated as reports come in that the dying Assad regime is now firing Scud missiles at its own cities. At least six Scuds are reported to have been fired.

As the Assad regime moved forward with increasing brutality, HRW issued a new report today on Assad's use of incendiary weapons, 130 countries recognized the Syrian National Coalition as the sole legal representative of the Syrian people.

From the NY Times we have this:

Syria Fires Scud Missiles at Insurgents, U.S. Says

Published: December 12, 2012
WASHINGTON — Syrian forces loyal to President Bashar al-Assad have fired Scud missiles at rebel fighters in recent days, Obama administration officials said on Wednesday.

The move represents a significant escalation in the fighting, which has already killed more than 40,000 civilians in a nearly two-year-old conflict that has threatened to destabilize the Middle East, and suggests increased desperation on the part of the Assad government. A fresh wave of mayhem struck the Syrian capital Damascus on Wednesday, reports from the region said, including a deadly triple bombing outside the Interior Ministry. One American official, who asked not to be identified because he was discussing classified information, said that missiles had been fired from the Damascus area at targets in northern Syria.

“The total is number is probably north of six now,” said another American official, adding that the targets were in areas controlled by the Free Syrian Army, the main armed insurgent group.  More...

This is a worryiing development because Scud missiles can be armed with a chemical warhead.
Al Jazeera English is reporting on the international recognition:
'Friends of Syria' recognise opposition

Over 100 nations meeting in Morocco officially recognise opposition coalition as "legitimate representative" of Syria.
Last Modified: 12 Dec 2012 14:55

The world's major powers have given full political recognition to the Syrian National Coalition, an opposition bloc, as the fourth conference for the "Friends of the Syrian People" opens in Morocco.

More than a hundred government delegates, including from the US, France, Britain and the Gulf countries, have gathered in the Moroccan city of Marrakesh on Wednesday to unveil measures to support the newly formed Syrian group.

The meeting comes as rebel forces in Syria have scored a number of victories against the government of Bashar al-Assad in recent weeks and have intensified a push towards Damascus.

A draft declaration at the meeting states that the members were prepared to recognise the opposition coalition as "the legitimate representative of the Syrian people". It also called on President Asad to "stand aside" in order to allow "a sustainable political transition" process. More...

From The Times we have:
Aleppo’s Agony

Assad is compounding violence against Syrian civilians with starving them. They need humanitarian and military aid
Published at 12:01AM, December 13 2012
leppo, in northwest Syria, has outlasted numerous rulers over millennia: the Assyrians, Persians and Seleucids in ancient history, and the Seljuk Turks, Ottoman Turks and French in the modern era. None has managed to inflict such depredations on the city’s people, however, as the depraved regime of President Assad.

Rebel fighters rose against Mr Assad’s forces in the historic city in July. The regime’s response has been indiscriminate bombardment of residential areas and main streets. It now encompasses cruelty on an insidious as well as spectacular scale. More$$$

In a related development, Human Rights Watch has issued this report today:

Syria: Incendiary Weapons Used in Populated Areas

Evidence Military Used Bombs That Cause Horrendous Burns
December 12, 2012

(Washington, DC) – The Syrian military has used air-delivered incendiary bombs in at least four locations across Syria since mid-November 2012. The conclusion is based on interviews with four witnesses and multiple videos analyzed by Human Rights Watch.

The Syrian military should cease its use of incendiary weapons immediately. A total of 106 nations have prohibited the use of air-delivered incendiary weapons, which cause serious burns, in populated areas, but Syria has not banned the weapons.

“We’re disturbed that Syria has apparently begun using incendiary munitions, as these weapons cause especially cruel civilian suffering and extensive property destruction when used in populated areas,” said Steve Goose, Arms division director at Human Rights Watch. “Syria should stop using incendiary weapons in acknowledgment of the devastating harm this weapon causes.”

Incendiary weapons can contain any number of flammable substances, including napalm, thermite, or white phosphorus and are designed to set fire to objects or to cause burn injuries. They are not chemical weapons, which kill and incapacitate by the toxic properties of the chemicals released. More...

Well, At least Assad hasn't crossed Obama's red-line!

Moadamiah Parents shocked to see their kid dead, murdered by Assad army thugs
12.12.12 | VERY GRAPHIC

Here are my related diaries on Syria:
WMD: Should Syrians feel safer because the Left hears echoes of Iraq?
Is Assad using white phosphorus in Syria?
BREAKING: Obama recognizes opposition in Syria
Speaking for the murderous regime in Syria
State of the war in Syria: Most of Damascus now in FSA hands!
Syria: Obama's moves Assad's "red line" back as SOHR reports 42,000 dead!
UPDATED: #Syria goes dark as "cleansing" begins in Damascus
BREAKING: Assad's Troops Wipe Out a Playground Full of Children in #Syria
BREAKING: Russia denies #Syria-n army on brink of collapse
BREAKING in Syria: Explosion rocks #Damascus as people use "Truce Day" to protest regime
We condemn Israel. So why the silence on Syria?
Norodom Sihanouk at his finest & more on Syria
Meet a Syrian who doesn't think both sides are equally bad and is betting her life on it!
Two statements about Syria
Syria Today: New videos from the revolutionary war
Syrian Defector: Assad behind "terrorist" bombs
How Assad fights "terrorism" in Syria
REVISITED: FSA says it killed Russian General in Syria
Turkey attacks Syria
Truth Out: How Assad helped France kill Qaddafi
Panetta: Unilateral U.S. Military Intervention in Syria Would Be a Serious Mistake
BREAKING: 305 Syrians slaughtered in bloodiest day yet
Syria: Secret source of rebel arms revealed
BREAKING: Amnesty on Syria - Assad Regime guilty on indiscriminate slaughter
Syrian Revolution Digest shows "disgusting" photos!
Syria: The Killing Field the World is Learning to Live With
Barack Obama's Courtship of Bashar al-Assad
LIVE VIDEO: “World Silence is Killing #Syria” Rally in #DC
Free #Syria responds to Robert Fisk
UPDATED: #Assad: "#Syria doesn't need a green light!"
#Obama opposes French support for #Assad's opposition in #Syria
BREAKING: Amnesty site hacked, Assad propaganda posted
BREAKING: 630 Slaughtered in new massacre in Syria
Special message from Syrian children to Obama
Assad's Redline and Obama's Greenlight!
General Meade at Gettysburg
Tell US gov't to stop endangering Syrian activists
UPDATED: #Obama "green lights" #Assad's slaughter in #Syria
Syria: Turning Battlegrounds into Playgrounds
BREAKING: Bashar al-Assad is alive as deaths in Syria reach 25,000
The Left and the Arab Spring
Iran increasing its intervention in Syria
Syria: Images from the Battle of Aleppo
Fears grow of WMD attack in Syria
UPDATED: FSA says it killed Russian General in Syria
BREAKING: Syria releases new images of Bashar al- Assad | Are they fakes?
NOT BREAKING NEWS: Just another massacre in Syria
UPDATED: Syrian prime minister defects
Syria: FSA says Iranian pilgrims really Republican Guard
Syria: Aleppo under Siege!
BREAKING: UN votes to condemn Assad Regime as Reuters posts false story on Syria
BREAKING: Kofi Annan resigns as envoy to Syria
Syria: Bashar al-Assad not heard from on Armed Forces Day!
BREAKING: Senior Syrian diplomat to Armenia defects
BREAKING: Big Explosion hits #Damascus #Syria
UPDATED: Syria's Charge D'Affaires Quits London Post
BREAKING: Ground assault on Aleppo begins!
BREAKING: Protests across Syria in spite of Assad regime violence
ALEPPO: Step outside the Matrix and witness the Horror
UPDATED: US fears massacre in #Aleppo, #Syria
BREAKING: Reports of clashes between Jordan Army & Assad's Syrian army
BRAKING: Obama stops Putin from re-arming Assad in Syria
Syria: Foreign meddling increases as crisis builds
BREAKING: Aleppo, Syria bombed with fighter jets
BREAKING: Syria issues a correction, it has no WMD to use
BREAKING: Arab League asks Assad to step down!
Bashar al-Assad: New images released as slaughter continues in Syria
no blood for oil
BREAKING: Activists report toxic gas attack in Deir ez-Zor, Syria
Glenn Greenwald sees Islamist Terrorism as main issue in Syria
Will Syria's Assad make a chemical attack in Damascus on Saturday?
BREAKING: I know where Syria's President Bashar al-Assad is!
BREAKING: Massive Fire near #Assad's Presidential Palace in #Damascus, #Syria
BREAKING: Is Syria's Bashar al-Assad dead or dying?
BREAKING: Damascus explosion kills Defense Minister, other key figures
The battle for Damascus is coming
BREAKING: General Strike in Damascus
BREAKING: Intense fighting reported in Damascus now!
BREAKING: Syrian defector spills beans as important new defection reported.
Does Syria's Assad have something on Kofi Annan?
Tremseh Massacre in Syria: What we know
BREAKING: ~227 reported massacred by Assad's forces in Tremseh, Syria today!
Syria: Is Assad regime on the verge of collapse?
BREAKING: Russian Warships reported in Syria
BREAKING: #Russia changing on #Assad but not as fast as conditions in #Syria
UN Observers say violence in Syria is ‘Unprecedented’
BREAKING: Defection of major Assad insider reported in Syria
BREAKING: WikiLeaks releases 2.4 million #Syria emails
When did "Never Again" become "Whenever?" | #Douma
BREAKING: Incredible mass rally in Aleppo, Syria today!
BREAKING: HRW releases torture report on Syria
BREAKING: Syrian General defects with 293 to Turkey
BREAKING: Items not in the MSM on Syria
My response to Phyllis Bennis: Where is the non-violent opposition in Syria?
BREAKING: Syrian Air Force attacks Douma, 10m from Damascus, thousands flee
BREAKING: As Syria Burns, UN Blows More Smoke
BREAKING: Kofi Annan to propose Syrian unity gov't sans Assad!
BREAKING: Douma, Syria under massive attack, another massacre feared
BREAKING: Another mass defection from Syrian army
BREAKING: #NATO says No War in #Syria shoot down of #Turkey jet
NATO meetup tomorrow as more defect from Syria
BREAKING: Turkey calls for NATO consult on downing of jet by Syria
BREAKING: Senior Syrian Officers Defect
UPDATED: Russia reported to be preparing to evacuate from Syria
BREAKING: Syria fighter pilot defects
BREAKING: Britain stops Russian ship carrying attack helicopters for Syria
BREAKING: Russian troops headed to Syria
Qaddafi forces Strike Back in Libya
BREAKING: UN suspends mission in Syria
Libya & Syria - two videos - no comment
BREAKING: Russia denies supplying Syria with NEW attack helicopters
Syrian people rise up against the massacre
Another "Houla style" massacre in Syria
Fake Houla Massacre Photo: Was the BBC set up?
Idlib, Syria protest today on anniversary of Kent State killings
BREAKING: Massive protests in Syria following Friday pray
Syria is bleeding
Syria: Ceasefire faltering as mass protests breakout

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  •  They still make Scuds? (4+ / 0-)


    They were third-rate munitions back in the 90s.

    "Michael Moore, who was filming a movie about corporate welfare called 'Capitalism: A Love Story,' sought and received incentives."

    by Bush Bites on Wed Dec 12, 2012 at 06:00:53 PM PST

  •  Let's hope they don't use chem weapons (7+ / 0-)

    Really, I can't help but think that the people who are telling us that they're loading chem weapons are trying to get more intervention.

    The revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

    by AoT on Wed Dec 12, 2012 at 06:05:59 PM PST

  •  If they are using SCUDS (2+ / 0-)
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    winsock, emidesu

    which are at best inaccurate...

    And reports of White Phosphorus and napalm laced claymore bomblets...  Yeah it's getting really ugly.

    "Death is the winner in any war." - Nightwish/Imaginareum/Song of myself.

    by doingbusinessas on Wed Dec 12, 2012 at 06:20:56 PM PST

    •  What A Waste (0+ / 0-)

      Why would anyone develop a napalm-laced (whatever that is) claymore bomblet, which I can presume only would be used in a cluster bomb?  Why would anyone believe that such a weapon was being developed?  By definition, a napalm bomb is an area weapon, as is a cluster bomb.  Putting napalm into the bomblet submunitions in a cluster bomb would only increase the weight of the bomb's structure compared to the active component, a bad trade-off.  Even putting WP into cluster bomb submunitions doesn't make a lot of sense, for pretty much the same reasons.  

      "Love the Truth, defend the Truth, speak the Truth, and hear the Truth" - Jan Hus, d.1415 CE

      by PrahaPartizan on Thu Dec 13, 2012 at 10:35:08 AM PST

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  •  BBC reports Aleppo.... (5+ / 0-)

    You have a link? Cuz here is a video from Aleppo today. Not exactly what I would call 'liberated' as you guys use the term.

    And repeat after me: Jaysh al Harr Harami, Badna Jaysh al Nizami!!!!

    (They want the Corrupt FSA gone, and the regime forces in)

    •  the rebels control all military bases in (0+ / 0-)

      Aleppo, according to those reports.

      Call it whatever you want if you don't like "liberated."

      •  No (6+ / 0-)

        In the countryside, maybe, but not in the city.

        He implies because Aleppo was lost, Bashar launched SCUDs into it. He doesn't say it, because it is not true and he knows it, but that is how a bullshit artist works.

        No one said a SCUD was launched at a city. Except the diarist. And he implied that Aleppo (the city) was lost to give the nice sense that Bashar is quickly losing control that he is so desperate he is launching SCUDS into cities (gotta VIDEO of one landing? Oddly no one does. CNN has reporters in Aleppo. I had SCUDs land near me in Riyadh in Desert Storm. You can't miss them.)

        •  the Aleppo report was about a mil base (2+ / 0-)
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          Trotskyrepublican, mookins

          supposedly the last one in Aleppo province.

          The reports are 6 scuds aimed at "rebel targets in the north."

          You're right that no one has said where they hit.

          The connection with the loss of Aleppo military base seems to be that without bases for the artillery, Assad is using scuds instead.

          It's not the action of a regime in control of the country.

          •  I believe in factual reporting (7+ / 0-)

            Not sensationalism. The regime has not had control of various parts of the country on and off for 2 years. That is not in dispute. What is, is what parts are, and why.

            His first para:

            BBC News says Aleppo is completely liberated as reports come in that the dying Assad regime is now firing Scud missiles at its own cities. At least six Scuds are reported to have been fired.
            is nothing close to representing to what is going on in Syria.  Well other than what my video shows, that areas of Aleppo are liberated from the FSA....but that is another point.

            He would never mention the terrorists bombings in downtown Damascus today.

            Nor would you ever learn of the massive Al Qaeda presence of the Jubhat al Nusrah from this 'source'. Watch friday as the al Qaeda guys this guy ignores take to the street.

            I call it the Jeffrey Feltman blinder policy of the Middle East.

            •  the diary is confused (4+ / 0-)

              in several places. I won't debate that. I'm not taking any of the diary's reporting seriously. There are real sources reporting similar things.

              But that Aleppo province news does seem to mean that Assad has little military control over any of that province any more, which is a significant change.

              That's not the same as the city of Aleppo fully supporting the rebels.

            •  Diarist has over a year's worth of denial (2+ / 0-)
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              corvo, Claudius Bombarnac

              of the atrocities that the anonymous "representatives" of the Syrian people have inflicted UPON the Syrian people.

              It would be different if this were an isolated diary, but at this point it needs to be CONDEMNED, period.

              The diarist owns the tag "Syria" on this site, and each post is 100% unverified propaganda; roadsigns on the road to the eventual western-facilitated Syrian coup.

              "Progressive" is a label long since lost to this site, aberrations aside. It really is just all about "electing democrats" case anyone has forgotten.

        •  "desparate" - propaganda overload (4+ / 0-)

          The neocons and globalists are becoming impatient. Why is this regime change taking so long. A US defeat in Syria could lead to the end of US hegemony in the Middle East.

          Does the fact that the strongest group opposing the Syrian Government, those doing the bulk of the fighting, are jihadists fighters linked to AL-Qaeda, concern them? Those doing the bulk of the fighting might not be so inclined to share the spoils with those leading from the rear.

          I suspect the government of Israel might be having some second thoughts about how this planned regime change, conceived at least in part for their behalf back in the mid-90's, is playing out.

          The propaganda preparation of the American people for another military adventure is now approaching a climax.  US recognition of the rebel coalition sets the stage for legal intervention.


          A picture of a scud can be seen at the link in the blockquote above.

          It's no secret that Syria was one of the 7 countries in 5 years (one of many links) to be planned for regime change.

          The foreign-financed armed rebellion and the Western-backed opposition to Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad has been falsely portrayed as a spontaneous uprising of “democracy” activists since violence first broke out more than a year ago.

          But according to a recent investigation published in the U.K. Guardian, top figures in the “regime-change” coalition — most notably the Syrian National Council (SNC) — have intimate links to the highest ranks of the world elite: the shadowy Bilderberg conference, the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), the Goldman Sachs megabank, billionaire financier George Soros, and, of course, the U.S. government. It is all out in the open, too.


          In the meantime expect to see tons of misinformation and propaganda from the establishment media.

          Orwell - "Political language ... is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable"

          by truong son traveler on Thu Dec 13, 2012 at 04:26:50 AM PST

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  •  Ah, another "unnamed" American official eh? (8+ / 0-)

    I can't help but wonder if this is lowbrow propaganda - recalling to the average Joe ....

    Patriot vs. Scud.

    Oh a scud has been fired? Better set off those Patriots that just happen to be positioned all along the Syrian border! It would be comedy if it wasn't already tragic.

    Anyway who cares what missiles Assad is using against the enemies of Syria?  Only those thoroughly duped and blind to the FUKUS' intentions.

    Clay Claiborne, your pro-war diaries at Daily Kos are a bane to the site's history, no matter how one views it.

    (Yay WWIII! Weapons for everyjuan!)

    •  Anyway who cares what missiles Assad is using (1+ / 0-)
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      against the enemies of Syria?

      These enemies?

      Remember history, Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust - narrated by Martin Sheen

      by Clay Claiborne on Wed Dec 12, 2012 at 08:38:00 PM PST

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      •  Deluded to the max (5+ / 0-)

        I will not watch another bs foreign merc video, I am done.

        But why no comment about yesterday's massacre of Alawites?

        It's not like it's a first either.

        My what dollars can buy....

        •  Shouldnt be necessary, but I should add (3+ / 0-)

          that it's completely ILLOGICAL, as the BBC reports,  that "Assad's thugs" would be behind the rounding up and killing of Alawite gov sympathizers, in rebel-gained territory...

          and again that wouldn't be a first either. Blame the opposite side because the dumb Americans won't know the difference anyway.

          Add "Scud" and it's BOMBS AWAY for fools like you.

          I hope that you'd have the grace to one day admit that you've been very, very wrong about all of this, but tbh I feel a real "true believer" vibe coming from these propaganda cut-n-pastes diaries.

        •  Err...wait... (5+ / 0-)
          Speaking at a makeshift rebel field hospital, he said that 300 Alawite civilians were killed when government forces destroyed a building where pro-government Shabiha militiamen were holding them hostage.
          So both sides in that were pro-government?
          Activists said the militia-controlled building was being besieged by the rebel Free Syrian Army (FSA).
          So the rebels destroyed a building where the pro-government militia held captives?
          The militiamen had used women and children as human shields and the house had been shelled by government forces, the rebel said.
          Wait...So now the government is attacking again?
          •  Exactly! (5+ / 0-)

            the propaganda is aimed at people who have no clue about what is what or who is who.

            We've seen this before....

            They've now added the "Scud" angle as a pavlovian tie-in. Who cares that more beardy weirdies will die? They must've been BAD! Right?

            Shame on Obama for "recognizing" part of the conspiracy while denouncing the particular "unpalatable" faction that they encouraged just as vehemently. Same old story. They came to portion up the fortune.

            Key phrase "the rebel said"... in a conflict where the "rebel" is undefined it can be whomever facilitates or provides scapegoat for intervention.

          •  Exactly! (3+ / 0-)

            the propaganda is aimed at people who have no clue about what is what or who is who.

            We've seen this before....

            They've now added the "Scud" angle as a pavlovian tie-in. Who cares that more beardy weirdies will die? They must've been BAD! Right?

            Shame on Obama for "recognizing" part of the conspiracy while denouncing the particular "unpalatable" faction that they encouraged just as vehemently. Same old story. They came to portion up the fortune.

            Key phrase "the rebel said"... in a conflict where the "rebel" is undefined it can be whomever facilitates or provides scapegoat for intervention.

      •  from the comments (4+ / 0-)

        pretty much sums it up for all of these videos:

        fsa executions, documenting their crime while presenting it as an "airstrike". These have been shot, not dead from explosions. You dont even need a brain 2 figure this out, just turn off the sound and LOOK at the evidence presented to you.
      •  Yes indeed, it's unfortunate (0+ / 0-)

        that the Syrian government (the legitimate one) should be using Scuds.

        They should have missiles with much better aim.  Shame on Russia for not providing them.

        •  Syria has 26 Iskander supersonic missiles (0+ / 0-)

          These missiles pose a considerable threat to any NATO air intervention. They can overcome the Patriot system.

          The Iskander (NATO designation SS-26 Stone) short-range ballistic missile is a successor to the Oka (SS-23 Spider), which was eliminated under the INF Treaty. It was first launched in 1996 and was initially designated by NATO as the SS-X-26. It is considered the most advanced missile of it's kind.
          The Iskander was designed to overcome air defense systems. Missile files at supersonic speed, excessively maneuvers in the terminal phase of the flight and releases decoys. In some cases this ballistic missile can be used as an alternative to precision bombing.
          Iskander-E, export version, specially designed to meet MTCR restrictions. It a maximum range of 280 km. This missile is fitted with internal guidance system and has a CEP of 30 - 70 m. This missile system has been exported to Syria (26 units);
      •  There are atrocities on both sides (0+ / 0-)

        It will take generations to undo the harm.

        Syria Rebels make child behead unarmed prisoner - WARNING - Extremely Graphic

  •  Skeptical (4+ / 0-)

    I become weary of western media coverage of internal conflicts in distant lands. It pretty much follows the same script for every intervention. Cherry pick a conflict that fits a desired worldview and furthers a desired agenda, escalate to the point where you gain sufficient public support for military intervention and regime change.

    Even a non inquisitive observer would have predicted that the Syria would be muddled militarily surely but only after the U.S. elections.

    Assad is a brutal dictator, but alternatives are equally violent,  fundamentalist, anti-American and would result in the killing of thousands of innocents Syrians-- just of a different identity.

    Btw, Bahrain has been under attack for much longer time, people protesting against  another dictatorial regime being killed, tortured and mutilated on a daily basis. We don't hear about it or there is clamor for saving them because the despot their happens to be an US ally.

    Let's not smuggle weapons into the hands of groups, groups which will one day very likely use those same weapons against us.  

  •  BBC agenda (5+ / 0-)

    Btw, the BBC and the Cameroon administration in the UK have been cheer leading for military intervention in Syria for months now, exactly the way they did with Libya.  

    Libya remains a lawless land, volatile and highly dangerous. The weapons we supplied to the rebels are largely unaccounted and are regularly used to kill innocent civilians including women and children.

  •  Scuds were used to destroy weapons caches at (4+ / 0-)

    military sites overrun by rebels.

    Clay, you are posting more propaganda:

    BBC News says Aleppo is completely liberated as reports come in that the dying Assad regime is now firing Scud missiles at its own cities.
    That was incorrect. You only needed to read the NYT article to find the truth.

    The target was the Sheikh Suleiman base north of Aleppo, which the Salafist Jihadist, terrorist designated, al Nusra rebel forces had occupied. In the coming months/years, we are going to see the US using drones against these very same fighters to destroy their weapons caches.
    Syrian Military Fired Scud Missiles At Rebels, U.S. Official Says

    It was not clear why the Syrian military would opt for Scud missiles when it can still carry out airstrikes and other attacks of equal or even greater intensity.

        "Military experts said the Assad government's use of Scuds might reflect worries that its aircraft have been vulnerable to rebel air defenses. In recent weeks, rebel forces have captured Syrian military bases, seized air-defense weapons and used some of them to fire at Syria warplanes. But one expert said that the government may have decided to use large missiles in order to wipe out military bases — and the arsenals they hold — that had been taken over by the opposition."

    •  Pilot Resistance (1+ / 0-)
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      Claudius Bombarnac

      Of course, the decision to use SCUDs could stem from the resistance the pilots who would be tasked with the mission are offering to the assignment.  That would be a bad sign for the Assad government, since losing the support of elite military types is typically the last thing one sees abandoning almost any autocratic regime.  When the Palace Guard goes over into opposition, then it's time to board the corp jet for refuge anywhere else.

      "Love the Truth, defend the Truth, speak the Truth, and hear the Truth" - Jan Hus, d.1415 CE

      by PrahaPartizan on Thu Dec 13, 2012 at 10:45:06 AM PST

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  •  So long as it's all virtual I don't mind. (0+ / 0-)

    Those little number thingies mean it's all virtual, right?

    You know, I sometimes think if I could see, I'd be kicking a lot of ass. -Stevie Wonder at the Glastonbury Festival, 2010

    by Rich in PA on Thu Dec 13, 2012 at 03:50:28 AM PST

  •  Russia throws in the towel. (1+ / 0-)
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    When Lavrov says that Assad is losing, one may reasonably conclude that Assad has lost, and Russia is withdrawing support.  Perhaps Hillary Clinton is letting Russia keep its naval base there; who knows.

    Assad's fall was assured more or less from the outset.  What with no material support from Russia (besides the execution of previously arranged arms sales) and hundreds of millions of dollars, and thousands of jihadi terrorists, from Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey, etc. etc.; and, at the very least, covert and logistical support from the USA, GB, France, etc. etc., what chance did he ever stand?

    Al Qaeda and its allies win again!  Whoda thunk?

  •  People in Aleppo fed up with rebel fighters - (1+ / 0-)
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    the majority of which have come from the poor rural villages.

    From the very pro-rebel Al Jazeera
    Stalemate stokes anger at rebels in Aleppo

    Many Syrian residents are fed up with rebel fighters as the conflict drags on in the once-thriving commercial centre.
    "It will end when the war in Iraq ends, and they have been at war for ten years now," says Mohammed Zein, a 64-year-old vegetable vendor.

    "Our country is being destroyed. If this is the revolution, I don't want it. I have to stress that I am not a supporter of the regime, because they used to oppress us. But now, we are being oppressed 100 times more."
    It is hard to gauge how much influence Jubhat al-Nusra wields with Aleppo's population, but what is unambiguous is FSA's declining popularity here.
    Aleppo was long immune from the fighting in the countryside. Unlike other areas in Syria, its people didn't rise up en masse when rebels brought the fight here. At the time, this failure disappointed many opposing Assad's regime. But now, it seems, it is the opposition to Assad that is disappointed with Aleppo.

    "We used to work and have jobs. We just want to live in peace," Mohammed Ali said. "The rebels promised to bring freedom but there is no safety. They promised us better lives, but we aren't even able to afford to buy bread."

  •  Here you go Clay. WaPo also pushing for armed (0+ / 0-)

    intervention. Reminds me of WaPo's push for the Iraq war.
    Silence on Syrian Scuds
    Editorial Board, Thursday, December 13
    The Obama administration’s reaction? None, so far. In fact, the administration has refused to publicly recognize that Scuds were used. State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said Wednesday that “we have in recent days seen missiles deployed,” but she refused to comment on whether they were Scuds.

    When we asked the White House whether the administration planned any specific response to the Scuds, we were referred to comments made this week in Morocco by Deputy Secretary of State William Burns, who said nothing about them.

    These dodges are sadly understandable. President Obama remains determined not to intervene in the Syrian conflict or to provide arms to the rebels, regardless of the cost in lives (40,000 and counting) or the growing threat of the war to U.S. interests across the Middle East. It’s undoubtedly embarrassing for the administration to concede that even the use of Scud missiles will not draw a U.S. response.

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