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First things first. My heart goes out to the families who have lost a loved one. Such tragedy.

I find it distasteful that people use a tragedy such as this to make a case for their religious beliefs. So self-serving. Both Mike Huckabee and Bryan Fischer have stated today that this event was the consequence in part due to the fact that the schools have less God. Huckabee stated that the schools "systematically removed God", while Fischer horrendously said "God could have protected the victims of this massacre, but didn't because "God is not going to go where he is not wanted""

This line of thinking is so faulty, and here's the logic to prove why....

If the level of religion present in a school system is a barometer on how much tragedy will visit then Canada should be getting hit more often per capita. We do not have the Lords prayer here. School is very secular north of the border. And we have more agnostics/atheists in our general population too. You'd think we should be flattened by now. But in fact the opposite is true. We have half the amount of firearms death per capita than the US. (9/100K vs. 4.65/100K) God must like our secular ways.

And what about Britain? They have less religion than Canada, and even less gun violence. Go figure Huckabee. Same goes for Sweden, France, Iceland, Germany, Scotland, Switzerland, etc. How do you explain how the godless heathens and their children have it better off Fischer?

It doesn't take much to look into facts before formulating a theory. And ignoring facts (as I'm sure these two have) is deceitful. Doesn't religion teach that it's wrong to lie? Isn't it detestable to manipulate the pain of others for your own gain?

They need to apologize to the families. Please join me and send these two men emails demanding them to retract their statements and apologize because there is empirical evidence that proves them wrong.

If they are "men of God" they will feel compelled to do the right thing

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  •  A member of the press should ask him... (6+ / 0-)

    "What is your evidence of this?"

    Did Fox ask him on what authority did he make his claim?

    Reason and science vs fear and ignorance. It's your call, America.

  •  That's why church killings happen (6+ / 0-)

    Apparently, no God in churches.

    Same shit, different day, Mike.

    "Never wrestle with a pig: you get dirty and the pig enjoys it"

    by GrumpyOldGeek on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 06:34:36 PM PST

  •  Actually God was just too busy (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:

    helping people score touchdowns and win Grammy Awards.

    If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low... oh you oughta see it sometime. It's a sight. A big plane like a '52... varrrooom! Its jet exhaust... frying chickens in the barnyard!

    by Major Kong on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 06:43:57 PM PST

  •  As a Christian, and indeed as a lay minister, (4+ / 0-)

    I am deeply offended by Huckabee's remarks. They are neither Christian nor appropriate.

    I am gay, and I'm getting married in the Episcopal Church, just like my great-grandmother did.

    by commonmass on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 06:45:30 PM PST

  •  I don't want to make this about religion. (2+ / 0-)
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    phonegery, ranton

    Personally I thought religion was bullshit yesterday and I think the same way today...not more, just the same.  Today is just about guns, and the question I'd ask Huckabee is why he loves guns (which, curiously, don't figure in the Bible at all) so much that he's willing to say extravagantly awful things about his God and God-Boy to take the heat off of guns.  

    You know, I sometimes think if I could see, I'd be kicking a lot of ass. -Stevie Wonder at the Glastonbury Festival, 2010

    by Rich in PA on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 06:49:17 PM PST

  •  God's light only shines on America... (1+ / 0-)
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    Major Kong

    what happens elsewhere is of no consequence.

    "It's almost as if we're watching Mitt Romney on Safari in his own country." -- Jonathan Capeheart

    by JackND on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 06:50:15 PM PST

  •  It you wanted to make God unpopular, this would be (0+ / 0-)

    the way to do it!

    WTF, the kids didn't even have a choice in the curriculum!

  •  There is more god in schools now (0+ / 0-)

    than when I was young. My parents wanted me to get some additional religious viewpoints (very conservative christian), so at 3:00pm on one day per week, I was shuttled off to some other place and given an hour of religious teaching. So wonderful, I have forgotten every bit of it, including where it was.

    My answer to Huckabee and his ilk is, "Where was the religious teaching from the parents and the church?" If they had been doing their job, there would be no need to have such teachings in school (where it doesn't belong except as a comparative thing - where all religions are examined and not forced onto the students).

    But when you look at the so-called christians who loudly proclaim they are the voice of god, you have to really wonder whether they are teaching their young exactly what to do.

    Hate the poor, kill the sick, your guns and feelings are more important than anyone else, kill the f*gs, destroy anyone who doesn't agree with you. This is the "Christian" message the Republicans have been piling up on the rest of us for far too long.

    My feeling is that all religions should be banned from all public places - no more Xmas, no Easter, nothing that even hints at any sort of religious background. You are free to celebrate anything you want, but no federal holidays for anything remotely religious (or we make holidays for all religions' holidays).

    If you want a public holiday at those times, go back to the Druids or some other pagan belief and celebrate Spring, the winter equinox, whatever, but stop with the hateful christian displays and words.

    Words can't express how horrible all these stories of people killing others in their own communities en masse. How can we ever justify anything that allows such things to happen so easily? How could anyone, especially those who proclaim themselves Christian, ever try and blame people who try to stop such things and celebrate groups like the NRA and its followers.

    My mind cannot wrap itself around the idiocy of Huckabee and others. My mind cannot wrap itself around the horror of very young children being killed in such a horrendous manner for no justifiable reason.

    I reject your reality and substitute my own - Adam Savage

    by woolibaar on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 08:27:41 PM PST

  •  The lunatic Jehovah (0+ / 0-)

    is nothing but a puppet that people like Mike Fuckabee and Bryan Fish-head use as a sounding board for their evil thoughts.

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