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This is an area where I claim no expert knowledge, nor do I profess to have any of the answers, even if the Diary does throw out a few suggestions worth discussing. No, like the rest of humanity I was shocked to the core by the events in Connecticut, as I was by the previous similar instances. I have read some of the outpouring of grief on the site and simply wanted to add my voice to the very necessary debate ... twigg

On Friday morning I went through the same, commonplace routine that happens every school day in the Bracken household.

The two older kids leave at 7.15 am and I am left alone to rouse the cute nine-year-old and help her get ready for school. She has breakfast, usually DynoBites, sometimes toast and butter. She adores the home made bread, toasted, then she will busy herself getting ready.

We usually get to chatter aimlessly for ten minutes while we wait for the bus. This morning was no different. Tonight she is having her first sleepover, and she is anxious about it. I asked her what she would like for supper, and she rattled through about four fast-food options wondering all the while what her friend would like.

This is a bit of a ritual dance. Ask Natalie what she wants for supper, and it is always fast-food. So I suggested that I might make pizza. Nat wasn't sure about that so I countered with home-made chicken tenders and English fries.

Well to see her face you would think I just offered her the Earth, and all that is in it.

Then the bus came and she went off with a smile.

If we lived not in Oklahoma, but in Newtown, Connecticut, then that might very well have been the last time I saw her alive. Indeed, I am all too well aware that it could happen here too.

Here in this quiet town where nothing happens, ever. Our town is just like that other town, the one where death visited and that was brought sharply home an hour or so later when I turned on the TV. I spent the next hour texting with Jodie (Mrs Twigg), herself a teacher in the local high school. All I wanted to do was get in the car and go bring our children home.

Home to our house which is safe. Home to their parents who love them. Removed from the dangers of our modern world in a way that the parents of twenty children will no longer be able to do. I cried for those parents, lives shattered by the latest in a never-ending series of avoidable tragedies. Parents who will never hug their grade-schoolers again. Adults ripped from their families and even the killer ... whatever his story it is just another life wasted, another death that has to be put down to our abject failure as a society, to protect each other from harm.

It is salutory to think that the Christmas presents for those children have already been bought. Some may even be under trees in the living room. Others will be in closets waiting to be wrapped. Joyful gifts for children who will never open them, now serving only as a stark reminder of the joyless lives of their families.

In the minutes and hours following this horrific event, the schools went on "lock-down". This is something schools all over the country practise in an attempt to minimize the potential for harm. While I can be thankful that schools make these arrangements, what I cannot accept is that we put up with even the idea that schools need to consider "lock-down" at all. This is neither normal or healthy. What kind of society have we built that our grade-schoolers have to practice "lock-down"?

Yet that is the reality of the society we live in. A country where the killings are so frequent that it is "never the right time to talk about it". Either it is too soon, or the next one is already upon us. A country where we all know that gun violence is running out of control, where mental health services are non-existent or difficult to obtain, yet there seems to be a gun store on every corner. A country where, Rachel Maddow informs us, there have been one hundred and eighty one similar instances since Columbine, and all that has happened in our attempts to address the problem is that gun laws have been relaxed.

That is the society we live in. We built that!

We are desperate for a change. I am way past caring about the rights of gun-owners, when those same owners will do nothing to keep my children safe from harm. As a parent, keeping my children safe is my only priority, and you are getting in the way. We make suggestions. Proposals that do nothing to stop lawful gun ownership, yet even here, even on this site the supporters of gun ownership reject every suggestion or proposal coming their way.

Assault weapons ban ... "It won't work"

Limiting clip size ... "It won't work"

Registration .... "It only punishes lawful owners"

Traceability ... "It won't stop illegal guns".

I'm sick of hearing what will not work. It's excuses, and those excuses are enabling the NRA, and they are killing our children. When did it become the accepted position that, unless a proposed solution is a total solution, it should be rejected out of hand?

The problem we have here is that, for some completely inexplicable reason, we apparently should not make laws because the criminals will not obey them. I wonder, when I hear that, why we bother having laws at all. Laws define criminality. If we determine that there should be regulation, and even some bans, then everyone failing to obey those laws is a criminal and we can treat them as such. Just like we do for all the other laws. This is not complicated.

We need to send a message which is only partly to do with the law. We need eventually to make guns completely unacceptable in open society. What you do within the confines of your own property can, by and large, be left to your discretion; but what you do when you step outside those boundaries is very much the business of us all. I have rights too, and one of them is the right to live free from fear, and the right for my children to go to school and come home again, alive and happy. If I have to piss you off to achieve that, then get out your crayons and color me bothered.

It doesn't have to be this way. The gun owners I have had conversations with generally keep weapons for self-protection. Self protection from what? From other people with guns. Bad guys. They point me to the viscous circle complaining that I don't understand. If they give up their guns, or accept background checks before EVERY transfer, or close loopholes, or add traceability to ammunition, and guns .... or comply with registration and training ... then only the criminals will have guns.

If we limit assault rifles or the size of clips and magazines then we have problems with definitions and existing inventory. Well I call bullshit on all of that because we have to start somewhere, and accepting the excuses means that we do nothing, and next Christmas there will be more unopened presents.

I ask you ... all the gun owners out there ... Are you prepared to do nothing and next year have it be the grade school your child attends that goes through this?

If the answer to that is no, then where do we start?

I'd be happy to begin anywhere. Re-instate the assault weapons ban, however imperfect. Limit the magazine and clip capacities. Register all guns and make sure both they, and the ammunition are traceable. Background checks for everyone and mandated training. Strict rules about the conditions under which guns are kept and an end to both concealed and open carry. A complete rollback of "Stand Your Ground" and a return to "Backs to the Wall". Waiting periods that mean something would help too. I am fully aware that ending concealed carry will not sit well with some of you :: shrug ::

The only real price legal owners will face for any of that is a little inconvenience. You may have the Constitutional Right to keep and bear arms. You have no such protections outwith your own property, Heller notwithstanding, and laws can be changed even if the constitution is currently in the hands of madmen.

If we change laws, and y'all bring a reasonable case that some parts could be improved, then we will listen. If, however, we have to do it without you, then eventually we will do just that, and if you do not have a seat at that table then rules will simply be imposed by those who do.

It defies all logic and reason to suggest that the answer to gun violence in society is more guns. The answer is not that, not even close. It is less guns, period. Dramatically less in the wrong hands, and simply less overall. If the guns are not there then there is little to be scared of, and no reason to carry a gun. If criminals don't get it, then they are criminals and they will be treated accordingly.

If we can restrict the access to legal guns, then we proportionately reduce the supply of illegal guns. It won't be quick and it won't be without problems. There may even be people who are killed because they didn't have their gun handy. We have to balance that with the absolute certainty that many will die if we do nothing.

You can pick apart any suggestions made by me or by anyone else. You can parse the words and stand on your rights. You can do all of that but if it is not balanced by reasonable and workable solutions that reduce the problems we are facing, then you are part of the problem.

Before you go down that road I simply ask you to do one thing.

Take a good, hard look at the presents you have just bought for your children or grandchildren. Think back to all those years that have gone, and the happy and excited faces as those gifts, lovingly given, were opened in a flurry of arms and a shower of paper. Then think of those families in Newtown, and the presents now frozen in the agony of eternity.

I know this is an unabashed emotional appeal, I make no apology for that.

My children, your children and the twenty children now gone .... and all the other children who become statistics on a daily basis because gun-owners are not responsible. They all demand our protection and we are failing them.
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Originally posted to Every Part of You Belongs to You on Sat Dec 15, 2012 at 11:30 AM PST.

Also republished by Shut Down the NRA.

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  •  I'm all for a "Big Tent" approach to this. (20+ / 0-)

    Those liberals, and citizens who are opposed to unfettered gun-ownership AND those who vocally support the Right to keep and bear arms.

    They all have valid things to say, and we will not persuade the American people that change is even possible without an inclusive approach.

    I continue to talk openly with the RKBA Users here, and they continue to offer me friendship despite my well-known position of opposing all hand guns.

    It saddens me when I read Diaries suggesting that a group of liberals be banned, just as I am equally disappointed when they ... er ... swarm!

    This site is one place where we need to learn to discuss these matters if we are ever to be in a position to move a nation.

    I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
    but I fear we will remain Democrats.

    by twigg on Sat Dec 15, 2012 at 10:01:09 AM PST

  •  thank you, twigg (9+ / 0-)

    i can't tell you how much i appreciate your continued efforts to have this very important discussion.  thank you so, so much.

    Yes, we need to talk about this. Please sign the dKos Petition to start a national conversation about gun control.

    by Avila on Sat Dec 15, 2012 at 11:35:42 AM PST

  •  For an alternate view (5+ / 0-)
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    and additionally, one that is not

    an unabashed emotional appeal
    see Cedwyn's diary.
    an unabashed emotional appeal
    regardless of which side originates it,  labors beneath that burden.

    We need a RATIONAL discussion.

    Which is not to say that this diary should be disregarded, isn't worth reading, or raises no valid points.

    I just fear the inevitable results if the discussion proceeds on this basis

    an unabashed emotional appeal
    primarily.

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    by kestrel9000 on Sat Dec 15, 2012 at 11:44:57 AM PST

  •  99 laws in 37 states 2009-2012 (5+ / 0-)
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    making guns easier to own, easier to carry in public—eight states now even allow them in bars—and harder for the government to track
    http://www.motherjones.com/....
    (Other highly relevant artices can be found starting here: http://www.motherjones.com/....

    the quoted MoJo article points to "NRA and its allies".  Who are these allies?  Is ALEC (or similar) writing these laws?

    •  OT: (0+ / 0-)

      may I ask you to revisit this and post an explanation? (there, not here)
      I'm honestly curious.

      </threadjack>

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      by kestrel9000 on Sat Dec 15, 2012 at 11:48:11 AM PST

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    •  And Michigan just allowed (5+ / 0-)
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      them in schools and daycare.

      I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
      but I fear we will remain Democrats.

      by twigg on Sat Dec 15, 2012 at 11:48:28 AM PST

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      •  Any school or daycare..... (1+ / 0-)
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        any privately owned facility at all, can opt out.
        See, that's the problem with gun control advocates too often.
        They don't inform themselves completely and statements like that result.
        Brainwrap ignored about two thirds of the legislation - that and the way it centralized CCW permit databases under the control of the State Police.

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        by kestrel9000 on Sat Dec 15, 2012 at 11:55:05 AM PST

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        •  Why would they choose to opt out? (2+ / 0-)
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          Might that be because it is a bad idea?

          If so, then why are we allowing it at all?

          I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
          but I fear we will remain Democrats.

          by twigg on Sat Dec 15, 2012 at 11:58:49 AM PST

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          •  That isn't the point. (2+ / 0-)
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            The point is that you were relaying inexact information omitting a vital detail. A few places here in Vermont do as much as well. The local hospital as well as the local mental health services agency are two places you'll find "No Guns" signs.

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            by kestrel9000 on Sat Dec 15, 2012 at 12:03:24 PM PST

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          •  A few places (2+ / 0-)
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            here in Vermont OPT OUT, that is, not relay inexact information.
            (Although I can think of one instance in which the local mental health office did exactly that.........)

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            by kestrel9000 on Sat Dec 15, 2012 at 12:06:48 PM PST

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  •  side note (5+ / 0-)
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    twigg, i absolutely love reading whatever you write about your children and your wife and family.  you are honestly one of the most talented writers here.

    Yes, we need to talk about this. Please sign the dKos Petition to start a national conversation about gun control.

    by Avila on Sat Dec 15, 2012 at 01:58:54 PM PST

  •  Thank you, Twigg, for starting ... (2+ / 0-)
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    ... this conversation.  I agree with the broad scope of your suggestions:

    Re-instate the assault weapons ban, however imperfect. Limit the magazine and clip capacities. Register all guns and make sure both they, and the ammunition are traceable. Background checks for everyone and mandated training. Strict rules about the conditions under which guns are kept and an end to both concealed and open carry. A complete rollback of "Stand Your Ground" and a return to "Backs to the Wall". Waiting periods that mean something would help too.
    My additions:

    *  Improve access to mental health  and substance abuse treatment services
    *  De-stigmatize mental illness so more people are willing to avail themselves to those services
    *  Improve education and social services programs to help all kids grow up optimistic about their futures
    *  Stop glamorizing gun violence in "entertainment"
    *  Require insurance as part of gun licensing
    *  Add a tax on to gun and ammunition sales and use the proceeds to promote gun safety education and to pay for bullet proof vests for all law enforcement (my understanding is that at least some cops have to buy their own vests)

    •  My issue with the responsible (4+ / 0-)
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      gun owners is that they oppose much of this.

      Making ammunition and guns traceable ... It affects ONLY the criminals, so why the opposition?

      Until they begin to accept that there will be inconvenience, and a modest cost to owning guns, then I will maintain that they are not serious, and part of the problem.

      I am not prepared to excuse the deaths of children for the convenience of gun owners.

      I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
      but I fear we will remain Democrats.

      by twigg on Sat Dec 15, 2012 at 03:30:42 PM PST

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  •  Doing (4+ / 0-)
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    NOTHING is unacceptable. Doing nothing says the value of lives is less than the value of "rights," over and over and over again. Why have rights if not to protect lives? The oxymoron is incomprehensible to me. I get TF's point about the divide between urban and rural gun issues. I get hunting as an avocation (no, I really don't, but I understand it better than I used to). But this, this is senseless. This must change.

  •  I lived in Minnesota when the Oklahoma City (3+ / 0-)
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    bombing happened. What brought that tragedy home for me was when I was told about all the kids in the day care who were expecting their parents to pick them up at the end of the day.

    The parents were dead.

    This is like that in reverse, only worse because we apparently aren't getting any smarter.

    The unopened presents are a terribly effective image.

    "I believe more women should carry guns. I believe armed women will make the world a better place. Women need to come to think of themselves not as victims but as dangerous." Anna Pigeon

    by glorificus on Sat Dec 15, 2012 at 06:26:39 PM PST

  •  This is brilliant, Twigg. (1+ / 0-)
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    twigg

    Cats are better than therapy, and I'm a therapist.

    by Smoh on Sun Dec 16, 2012 at 01:55:21 PM PST

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