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According to a neighbor of Adam Lanza he was on medication for some type of personality disorder.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/...

Yesterday, I speculated that AP reports of his condition suggested to me he was medicated for it.  I sloppily slung together a diary trying to force my concerns to the surface and the diary didn't get the kind of attention I feel this topic deserves.

I am deeply troubled by the potential toxic side effects of long-term prescription drug use of psychotropics.  

First, drugs are typically approved based on clinical trials of adults with fully developed brains.  A child may be prescribed psychotropics as young as age 5.  

http://www.nytimes.com/...

I challenge anyone to locate a significant peer-reviewed clinical trial of psychotropics where all test subjects are pre-pubescent.  

Whereas antipsychotic drugs are not approved by the Food and Drug Administration for children; the FDA's "black box warning" states antidepressants increase the risk of suicidal thinking and behavior in children and adolescents with psychiatric disorders; and drug safety experts have recommended additional "black box" warnings be placed on ADHD drugs: for the increased risk of stroke and heart attack;
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Second, duration of testing on subjects does not span several years.  Although FDA approval may take up to 8 years from drug synthesis to market, actual prescription schedules in studies do not sustain beyond typical usage periods in the real world.  

It's possible that we are rearing a generation of children who are the very first to be put on psychotropics so early and so long.

So the full array of effects of psychotropics in real time are unknown prior to market.  We are raising these children and investing our trust and placing the health of our children in the hands of multi-billion dollar publicly traded corporate conglomerates.  I don't want that trust to be blind just because the man/woman who prescribes the psychotropics wears a white coat and gives your kid a lollipop.

Eric Harris, one of the Columbine shooters was prescribed psychotropics.  James Holmes was seeing a psychiatrist but information has not been released about whether he had ever been prescribed psychotropics or lived most of his childhood on psychotropics.  

Peculiarly, Adam Lanza and the Columbine killers and James Holmes share common traits that describe a digitalized, overmedicated generation.  All of them come from affluent communities and mostly stable family units with access to prescription drug coverage.  All of them are described as genius by at least one person in their circles, exhibiting normal cognitive function according to public education standards. And in the case of Lanza and the Columbine kids, they were avid gamers, quiet, shy and socially inward.  

I'm not drawing any conclusions here I just want us to ask more questions.  

Here is what I know and what has sparked my inquiry.  Adam Lanza had been diagnosed with some type of personality disorder.  AP reported this yesterday.  Adam Lanza has been prescribed medication for it.  Washington Post reported this today.  

Here is what I don't know:  1) when his young brain was first showered with these potentially toxic chemicals 2) how many years of accumulation contributed to complete mental detachment from reality 3) if chemical mixtures played a role at all.

But what I do know is that quiet honors students who grow up in loving families with no record of criminal history do not commit spontaneous acts of mass violence.

In 2002, Fox National News reported Douglas Kennedy exposed the link between psychiatric drugs and school shootings.

In September 2005, following confirmation that Red Lake Indian Reservation school shooter, Jeff Weise, was under the influence of the  antidepressant Prozac, the National Foundation of Women Legislators, together with American
Indian tribal leaders, called for a Congressional investigation into the correlation between psychiatric drug use and school massacres.

Congress has yet to investigate the role of psychiatric drugs relating to school shootings despite international drug regulators warning these drugs can cause mania, psychosis, hallucinations, suicide and homicidal ideation.

At least eight of the recent school shooters were under the influence of such drugs, and according to media reports, investigators working on the Virginia Tech school shootings, Cho Seung-Hui may also have been taking drugs for “depression.”

http://www.endalldisease.com/...

I leave you with the words of one of the one of the Columbine victims:

If you are interested in more information about the potential links between violent behavior, reality detachment and psychotropics watch the documentary "The Drugging of Our Children"

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  •  Thanks for looking at the broader picture (5+ / 0-)

    of what's going on.  We tend to latch onto one specific issue, when there are so many factors contributing to horrific events.  

  •  I worry about this, too. (4+ / 0-)

    too many guns, too many inadequately tested meds.

    I hadn't heard this shooter was an avid gamer, too.

    whether or not people want to talk about this, I don't know, but I think if it is true that some very large percentage of the mass shooters were on these new psychiatric meds.... well, if they were associated together by any other trait, we'd be talking about it.

    But, if reports that all the guns used, including the gun used to kill the mother, were the mother's guns, in the home, this would not have happened, no matter how disengaged by meds the shooter was. Seems to me that's the bottom line. I don't know what the solution is: but I know that families who are being pitched expensive guns, just another line of consumer goods at this point, on the grounds that they will make their families "safer" should not necessarily believe the pitch. It certainly didn't make this family "safer," nor other families either.

    what a horror.
     

  •  thanks for talking about this (7+ / 0-)

    i know it is a tough topic as many people have found help through these meds but i completely agree about the lack of knowledge of their effects on developing brains.  or the lack of knowledge of long term effects on developed brains.  our understanding of the brain and all of its connections/workings is by no means complete and we are medicating what we do not understand often.

    a personal story:  my neighbor and her husband have a son adopted from russia with severe developmental, emotional and cognitive dysfuntion.  he i 10, has been in their home since he was 2.  he is aggressive in the extreme.  everyday is a struggle just to get through the day without his hurting himself, them or their other child.  he attacks his teachers frequently.  he is strapped into the seat on the bus due to extreme aggitation.

    i cannot imagine living with this in my home daily (trust me, sometimes it is hard just being his neighbor).  the mother gets the worst of it - she has been injured by her child.  the meds he is on are a cocktail of things just to keep him for hurting himself or someone else.  i dread the onset of puberty.  that is going to be a mess.   while these drugs are undoubtedly causing some serious side effects in this child - i can't see how they could survive without them.  we don't have other "therapeutic" options at this point.  

    i have all the reservations you do and believe that these meds are often used without proper followup and treatment as well as being discontinued by the patient with serious side effects.  in this case however, i cannot see how they could survive without medicating this child.  it is a terrible situation they find themselves in.  

    thanks for the diary, you are a good writer and i look forward to more from you on this topic.
     

    We are raised to honor all the wrong explorers and discoverers - thieves planting flags, murderers carrying crosses. Let us at last praise the colonizers of dreams. - Peter S. Beagle

    by jk2003 on Sat Dec 15, 2012 at 07:00:25 AM PST

  •  Lost two family members. (4+ / 0-)

    A gun in the house and one on Prozac.  Middle of the night hallucination and now they are both dead.  This was a loving retired couple with every advantage in life.

  •  Here's how some of the drugging starts: (4+ / 0-)
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    Curricula in schools have been enriched and enhanced to the point where a kindergarten child is being exposed to the same kind of requirements which used to be delayed until 2nd, 3rd, or even 4th grade.  For some kids, it works.  For others, not so much.
     Teachers notice that 5 year olds- particularly boys- can't sit still for long periods of times, and likely they can't concentrate as hard as they need to to master the more advanced skills.   If there are several such boys in the class, the teacher decides that they are hyperactive or ADHD, or ADD.
      Teacher confers with parents and suggests same.  Parents go to pediatrician with teacher's suggestions, and a prescription is written.  Sure enough, it helps somewhat.  But what used to be accommodated in class- kids being kids- is no longer allowed.  So your 5 year old is drugged, day after day, and then year after year.  And no one really knows what the cumulative effect of this drugging might be.  
    A child who could have been allowed to progress at a normal rate and who could have blended in when he matured a bit is now dependent on a drug.  And when one drug has been prescribed, it becomes a bit easier to think that another might help also.  

    •  they tried this with my nephew (0+ / 0-)

      just a figity kid.  smart as a whip.  crappy handwriting, can't sit still.  my brother is a dean at a high school though so he had the knowhow to stop it in it's tracks and the loud voice to make it stick.  some parents just get railroaded though.  shit, i would rather take my kid out of school and homeschool (i know, not always popular here) than deal with that crap.

      We are raised to honor all the wrong explorers and discoverers - thieves planting flags, murderers carrying crosses. Let us at last praise the colonizers of dreams. - Peter S. Beagle

      by jk2003 on Sat Dec 15, 2012 at 07:56:55 AM PST

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    •  Malpractice (0+ / 0-)

      Isn't prescribing a drug to treat a condition (in this case: "boyhood") for which the drug isn't approved considered malpractice? How does this continue?

  •  First question I thought (0+ / 0-)

    after shouting 'oh, god, no!' a lot, was "i wonder what anti-depressants the killer was on."

    Time after time after time it turns out these shooters are on some prescribed drug. But there seems to be a prohibition on discussing that fact in the mainstream.

    And then the other point: what is the effect on children, period? The numbers of children being forced onto pharmaceuticals for quite ordinary and sane responses -- being bored, agitated, and feeling cooped-up in school! c'mon! -- is horrifying.


    The Internet is just the tail of the Corporate Media dog.

    by Jim P on Sat Dec 15, 2012 at 09:40:28 AM PST

  •  It is an important subject. However, it's hard (1+ / 0-)
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    to say what is due to drugs and what is due to the personality disorder itself. There are some well-known side effects of e.g. Prozac but they are quite different from this.

  •  It seems far more plausible to believe (1+ / 0-)
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    that the mental illness for which these people were being treated was what lead them to commit these terrible crimes, not the treatment itself.  The simplest answer is usually the right one.  

    I find the title of this dairy hyperbolic and reactionary.  I say this as someone who takes prescribed psychiatric medication and as the child of a wonderful father who would have died but for antidepressants.  It's a lot like the abortion debate...the same way conservatives love to demonize women who get abortions (until it's their wife or daughter who "needs" one), people on the left love to talk about people "drugging" their children into compliance (until they need an antidepressant or their kid benefits from ADD medication).  

  •  The Producer and writer of "Drugging our (0+ / 0-)

    Children" is a fraud who has claimed HIV does not cause AIDS.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/...

    You should not be promoting or trying to normalize his quackery.

    This place needs a PVP server.

    by JesseCW on Sun Dec 16, 2012 at 04:23:24 PM PST

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