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So, so, so very sad. The news out of Connecticut is especially ironic because our legislators and Governor Snyder are passing stupid laws. The Merriam-Webster dictionary defines stupid as "given to unintelligent decisions or acts; acting in an unintelligent or careless manner; lacking common sense". The present decisions made by the majority party in Michigan right now are therefore stupid.

The foremost stupid law passed THIS WEEK is Michigan House Bill and Senate Bill 59 which allows concealed weapons in so called "gun-free" zones: schools, day care centers, sports arenas, bars, places of worship, hospitals, dorms and casinos.

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This bill is currently waiting for Governor Snyder's signature. Will he or won't he? That's the big question right now. The Sandy Hook School undoubtedly gives Snyder pause to reconsider the wisdom of such a bill.

Under this concealed weapons bill, signs may be posted at each of the "gun free" zones stating that guns are not allowed. "We're not repealing the zones," said Sen. Mike Green, R-Mayville, the bill's sponsor. "We're simply making Michigan law for a concealed pistol license consistent and doing so in a responsible way with more training." Huh? It's bad enough to have concealed weapons where children and worshippers are present, but how will that play out in a bar with most customers imbibing alcohol?

Sec.5j of HB59 states:  ... training was provided within 5 years preceding the date of application and consisted of not less than 8 hours of instruction... The program provides at least 3 hours of instruction on a firing range and requires firing at least 30 rounds of ammunition or, for certificates issued on or after May 1, 2013, provides at least 3 hours of instruction on a firing range and requires firing at least 98 rounds of ammunition.

The bill itself is lengthy and has many conditions. Among the conditions stated, retired military police and retired police may be exempt from this law. Apparently they are trustworthy and do not need 8 hours of extra training. There is no limit given on how long the person has been retired or how old the individual may be.

Crazy, huh? Instead of restricting access to semi-automatic and automatic weapons, in Michigan we are expanding who can carry a concealed weapon. As if the new concealed carry gun owners are going to have a shoot out with a terrorist or other gun-wielding individual in a school, daycare, local bar, church or stadium? Really? Can you imagine if the principal or school psychologist tried to return fire with the Sandy Hook shooter? I can't fathom how this would work out.

In the old days, I remember my dad saying "Two wrongs don't make a right". The gunman at Sandy Hook was wrong. How are we going to make it right with more guns?

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  •  Tip Jar (8+ / 0-)

    Liberal (from Webster's Dictionary): tolerant of views differing from one's own; broad-minded

    by 50sbaby on Sat Dec 15, 2012 at 09:39:28 AM PST

  •  I bet he'll sign it (2+ / 0-)
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    CoExistNow, phonegery

    Gun nut rightwingers actually believe that the world would be much safer if everyone packs heat everywhere. The world they live in is not connected to reality.

    "I don't cry over milk spilled under bridges. I go make lemonade" - Bucky Katt

    by quill on Sat Dec 15, 2012 at 10:08:30 AM PST

  •  I have been in contact with both my public school (1+ / 0-)
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    administration and the Macomb County sherrif's office asking questions about SB59.  My specific question is in regards to the whether or not MI K-12 public schools can "opt out".  It is clear that MI public universities can still ban/opy out of the concealed carry provision but what is not at all clear is whether that same provision applies to our K-12 schools.  From local newspaper reports the consensus is clear that privately owned businesses can post signage banning concealed weapons as can public universities, but the reports are mixed and confused about local school districts.
    I spoke with a sargeant at the Macomb County Sherriff moments ago and he told me that they have not and will not receive analysis of SB59 unless it is signed into law and could not give me any information at all regarding this question.
    Please, if anyone can answer this question, I would appreciate it.  It is not too late to contact Gov. Rick Snyder and ask him not to sign this into law.  It is never too late to create coimmunity awareness, either regarding the impending legislation and the impact on lcoal school safety if passed into law, or about our own school policy and crisis planning.

  •  50sbaby - what automatic weapons are (1+ / 0-)
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    available to the general public in MI? I thought they were outlawed in the 1930s.

    "let's talk about that"

    by VClib on Sat Dec 15, 2012 at 10:16:55 AM PST

    •  I can't find a specific law, but I don't believe (0+ / 0-)

      automatic weapons can be sold in Michigan, nor is it legal to convert a weapon to an automatic.

      However, a handgun can kill, just like an automatic weapon can kill. How many deaths does it take to not be OK? 5? 10? 20? Whether it's an automatic weapon or not, one death is too many.

      Liberal (from Webster's Dictionary): tolerant of views differing from one's own; broad-minded

      by 50sbaby on Sat Dec 15, 2012 at 10:35:43 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  Please urge Gov Snyder not to sign it. (2+ / 0-)
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    surelyujest, Sylv

    Let's show him folks are watching him on this. Please send him an email: It is H59. It's not too late.

  •  Here are two links re SB59 (1+ / 0-)
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    First is the bill as it reads and awaits Gov. Snyder's signature.  Second is local mlive story:
    SB 59 as passed

    Sweeping changes in Michigan's concealed wepaons law

  •  Is the Michigan media reporting the disconnect? (0+ / 0-)

    So far, I haven't heard anyone putting 2+2 together.  Perhaps it's too soon, but I get the sinking feeling that Michigan will forget all about the travesty.  The MDP will run with a tepid set of candidates on the whole, and Rethugs will dominate like they've done so in non-Presidential years.

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