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Everyone is calling on Obama to do something to regulate guns, but I will not join these voices. The reason is simple. Obama has already received ~45,000 death threats during his first 4 years. He already is the main target of the armed right-wing paranoia. He will not survive being the single person to take on gun violence in this country. We would lose him, his family. Lets focus our call for action on Congress, on the Senate etc. Of course Obama will sign any such legislation into law, but he cannot be the sole person driving this. This is the terrible truth. The NRA and the gun lobby have taken full control of America. It will require all of us to push back against this. I find it really cheap and irresponsible to just call on Obama to do something. This goes way beyond what a president can do.

Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 5:25 PM PT: Today Obama and Biden revealed their move to control gun violence. They did it! I am very proud of their courage to lead. http://www.dailykos.com/... Now we must all join the White House because "This will not happen unless the American people demand it."

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  •  I got angry when I saw your title, (11+ / 0-)

    but after reading, I can't say I disagree, because you're making an excellent point. We are all in this together, and let's not think for a moment that Obama can do it all himself. America has to be made aware of that piece of shit congress when it comes to the guns issue, amongst, of course, a host of other issues.

    There is no such thing as an off year election. Every election effects each other. We need to work as hard in 2014 as we did in 2012.

    by pollbuster on Sun Dec 16, 2012 at 01:22:39 PM PST

  •  A President takes on that risk. (8+ / 0-)

    If I thought a President would put his own personal safety--beyond the best security possible--ahead of doing  what is right for the nation, I wouldn't vote for him or her. Period. We give them secret service men who are willing to take a bullet for them. If we need to give them more, so be it. But in the end, they can't be making their policy decisions for the welfare of the nation about whether or not they will be safe once they leave office...

    The Class, Terror and Climate Wars are indivisible and the short-term outcome will affect the planet for centuries. -WiA "When you triangulate everything, you can't even roll downhill..." - PhilJD

    by Words In Action on Sun Dec 16, 2012 at 01:26:15 PM PST

    •  with 45,000 death threats he has done (6+ / 0-)

      his share. Asking for the sacrifice of his family is simply irresponsible. We must carry this to cause back to the GOP, target all GOP representatives.

      •  That's just stupid. (3+ / 0-)
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        ssgbryan, Just Bob, terrybuck

        He needs to do his job, wherever that takes him. Discussing scenarios under which our president will be assassinated is inappropriate. We have professionals who deal with these issues and i seriously doubt that Barack Obama would approve of bloggers discussing which issues he should shy away from due to physical threats.

        •  these 45,000 cannot even all be investigated (1+ / 0-)
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          Think a bit before you say something like this. Sacrificing your family is not part of your job description. Obama has been the most targeted President in years. This is a task is so big that it requires all of us.

          •  Bullshit. This is concern trolling (3+ / 0-)
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            about the president being shot. Clinton signed the assault weapons ban and is still alive today. What yo are saying here amounts to "black presidents should not do certain things white presidents can do". If nlack presidents must, due to threats from racists, limit their presidential activities, they are no longer fit for office. Obama MUST do whatever he chooses to do, and absolutely ignore threats to his person, as ALL presidents must do. Even discussing this is distasteful. I think you should delete this diary.

            •  you are ignoring US realities (0+ / 0-)

              why don't you delete your comments? This is exactly why I wrote my first diary ever, because this finger pointing to the President is truly cheap and irresponsible. Completely ignores the power of the gun lobby in this country. Ignores how tight the NRA grip is on this country. And it has tightened since Clinton, just a few days ago again in Michigan. It is complete insanity, but not even Democrats have been willing to take this on. There are so many right-wing militias in this country, so many driven by hate, paranoia, nurturing conspiracy theories that Obama will take away their guns. Taping into this paranoia is gonna backfire. This is why you need pressure on the GOP to join forces. Bloomberg has been great. This really needs a bipartisan approach. It needs an approach you cannot stick on Obama. The majority of the country needs to want this. And everyone needs to hear it.

              •  There are reasons the (1+ / 0-)
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                President should let others take the lead on policies. But fear of threats is not one of them. And since you don't even know which threats are more serious than others (should he travel to certain countries?), you really should just shut up. Saying that if Obama does X, someone will shoot him, which is exactly what you're saying here, is disgusting. But you take the additional step of saying therefore he should not do it. Just embarrassing, really.

  •  Yes. This calls for the grassroots and up (7+ / 0-)

    to the legislature. The President has plenty on his plate already, like preventing the Republicans from destroying the American credit rating and economy with it. I didn't understand why the initial protest/vigil was directed at the Whitehouse. I don't expect anything worthwhile to come out of Boehner's House, but officials should be put on record. This is the moment that the tide has turned. Let's demonize (or honestly characterize) and undermine the NRA in every way; think of what can be done to erode manufacturers' profits. Take the fight to the enemy, not bicker among friends.

    •  Most effective could be legal avenues (4+ / 0-)
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      like it was done for Tobacco. For instance, if all gun related death would be bounced back to gun manufacturers.

      •  tari - I think the issue has been litigated (0+ / 0-)

        I haven't done any recent research but I believe the issue of trying to hold the gun manufacturers liable has been significantly litigated. I don't think the current federal court system has been, or would be, very sympathetic to litigation on this issue, but there may be a state court system that would be more accommodating.

        "let's talk about that"

        by VClib on Sun Dec 16, 2012 at 09:30:23 PM PST

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  •  Reducing gun violence (3+ / 0-)
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    The very best thing Obama can do to reduce gun violence is to make good schools, good jobs and good health care available to every American on an equitable basis.

    Some of this violence is rooted in the hopelessness, anger, hatred and fear that people are pouring into our public discourse.  

    Religion gives men the strength to do what should not be done.

    by bobtmn on Sun Dec 16, 2012 at 02:09:17 PM PST

  •  Hear, hear!!!!!!!!! /nt (2+ / 0-)
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    by jan4insight on Sun Dec 16, 2012 at 02:17:52 PM PST

  •  Wow (1+ / 0-)
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    Emmy

    I can't disagree with you, but this is really a distressing thought.

  •  All of these diaries have somethning in common (1+ / 0-)
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    ssgbryan

    No attempt to find a short-term solution so Short Hills won't happen again. So, tari, what do YOU think should be done, since this is a diary about what shouldn't be done?

    -7.75, -8.10; All it takes is security in your own civil rights to make you complacent.

    by Dave in Northridge on Sun Dec 16, 2012 at 02:30:47 PM PST

    •  we have to pursue an "all of the above" (3+ / 0-)
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      approach. And it has to come from all of us. Lets start with our families, our addiction for violent games, that our boys define themselves among their peers of how well they kill in "Call of Duty", the violence in movies shown in our theaters, who has access to guns, have our children access to our guns, how well do we recognize mental illness in our family, among peers, do they have access to treatment, why do so many mentally ill have access to semi-automatic weapons, why do we need semi-automatic weapons, how can we turn back against the NRA and their grip on our representatives. Obama will do this part, but all the above has to happen and it has to come from us. Certainly, an improvement in our economy would do the most to help ease paranoia and anxieties, give vulnerable people jobs that keep them busy and give them fulfillment.

  •  This is a legal issue that Congress alone must (2+ / 0-)
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    address.
    Mostly because they are largely responsible for the failure to keep WMD and ammo out of the hands of civilians.  Not to mention state laws that allow civilians to carry anywhere anytime.

    Obama also needs to stay out of the business of trying to create legislation because the Rethugs have been wailing since Clinton that Clinton/Obama are going to take away their boy toys.  (Probably did for Carter too but that's too far back to remember.)

    If he gets involved it will create a huge distraction from other issues that need to be addressed.

    Let the Dims introduce legislation and let the RepoNazi "kill" it" and then use that as PR in the midterms.

    •  "Dims" ? (2+ / 0-)
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      "Drop the name-calling." Meteor Blades 2/4/11

      by indycam on Sun Dec 16, 2012 at 03:26:40 PM PST

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    •  Marnie - Congress has failed to keep (0+ / 0-)

      chemical, biological and nuclear weapons out of the hands of civilians? Really? The term WMD has a very specific definition. The President has said that if Syria uses WMD the US will intervene. I think the Syrians are using weapons far more lethal than semi-automatic assault rifles against innocent civilians. Should the US intervene now based on your definition?

      "let's talk about that"

      by VClib on Sun Dec 16, 2012 at 09:34:00 PM PST

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  •  I hope he , the Democrats on the hill (1+ / 0-)
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    and elsewhere are working on it together .
    He doesn't need to be seen to be working on it , imho .

    "Drop the name-calling." Meteor Blades 2/4/11

    by indycam on Sun Dec 16, 2012 at 03:29:13 PM PST

  •  I absolutely agree (2+ / 0-)
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    It's an issue that needs desperately to be dealt with but Obama is certainly NOT the one to do it. If it doesn't cost him his life, it will at the very least cost him enormous political capital that needs to be used on a vast variety of other issues.

    Let the next Dem run on the issue. Demographics are changing and, I suspect, there will be some movement in the ideologies over this latest tragedy. The next Dem coming along, will most likely be able to tackle this issue and win on it.

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