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The NRA may wisely be keeping silent (for the time being), but their members and advocates aren't so wise. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Oklahoma State Rep. Mark McCullough.

This morning, McCullough lost no time sending out a press release (see below the fold) from the state capitol, with his NRA-style solution to the problems of school shootings: armed teachers and principals.

Oh, CLEET trained and certified, to be sure. After all, we don't want any unintended accidents do we? Nothing unfortunate like a state trooper leaving his loaded and unsecured gun lying around so his visiting three-year-old nephew can find it and kill himself.

So lets fill the schools with overfilled classrooms, stressed-out teachers and guns. What could possibly go wrong?

Oklahoma House of Representatives
Media Division
December 17, 2012

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
Contact: State Rep. Mark McCullough
Capitol: (405) 557-7414

McCullough Offers Plan to Protect Students

OKLAHOMA CITY – State Rep. Mark McCullough announced today his plans to file legislation that will, among other things, allow CLEET-certified teachers and principals to carry firearms at school and at school events.
            “We cannot continue to be shackled by politically correct, reflexive, anti-gun sentiment in the face of the obvious – our schools are soft targets,” said McCullough, R-Sapulpa. “It is incredibly irresponsible to leave our schools undefended – to allow mad men to kill dozens of innocents when we have a very simple solution available to us to prevent it. I’ve been considering this proposal for a long time. In light of the savagery on display in Connecticut, I believe it’s an idea whose time has come.
            “ I trust my children to my local teachers and principal every day. I want to give these trusted, responsible educators the ability to defend themselves and our children in the same way any normal parent would, in the face of the unthinkable.”
            McCullough and many other legislators have been seriously examining our gun laws for revision, beginning with a 2011 legislative study.
            “We’ve been doing our due diligence on this topic. It’s important to get it right,” said McCullough. “CLEET certification is the exact same training our law enforcement professionals receive. Obviously we do not want firearms out and about in the school where students might have access to them. For that reason, if educators are allowed to carry firearms, it is necessary that they have them on their person at all times.”
            McCullough said he plans to ensure there is funding available for CLEET certification for educators. He would also like to see schools coordinate with local police departments.
            “One idea that has been discussed would be to actually designate these educators as reserve officers with local police and sheriff departments,” said McCullough.
            Lawmakers are currently in the process of drafting legislation, which must be filed by 4 p.m. on Jan. 17, 2013.
 

Addendum: Famous Oklahoma wingnut Sally Kern used to be a public school teacher. Yeah, I rest my case.
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  •  Tip Jar (18+ / 0-)

    Oklahoma: birthplace of Kate Barnard, W. Rogers, W. Guthrie, Bill Moyers & Eliz. Warren. Home to proud progressive agitators since before statehood. Current political climate a mere passing dust cloud; we're waiting it out & planning for clearer days.

    by peacearena on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 10:05:06 AM PST

  •  I hope that dustcloud you mentioned... (3+ / 0-)
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    passes quickly...and soon.

  •  As a public school teacher (12+ / 0-)

    I would quit my job and pull my kids out of school if something ridiculous like this were to ever be put in effect where I lived.  Of course, it won't, but there are some crazies who want to.

    We are currently living through the greatest redistribution of wealth in our nation's history. The rich and the corporations are using their money and power to obtain even more money and power. We must fight back while there is still time.

    by Keep Oregon Blue on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 10:10:45 AM PST

  •  Watch a little too much Boston Public? (2+ / 0-)
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    Oh yes, so next time a student gets those urges to "Take Care" of his teacher, the means to do so will be right there...

    Great plan...

    I don't blame Christians. I blame Stupid. Which sadly is a much more popular religion these days.

    by detroitmechworks on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 10:16:46 AM PST

  •  Insufficient - if the assailant came through (4+ / 0-)

    the door firing the teacher really might not have a chance. We need to arm and train all of the students.

    That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

    by enhydra lutris on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 10:24:18 AM PST

    •  We could have (4+ / 0-)

      select secretly trained students sort of like the agents who fly undercover on airplanes guarding us against all those 8 ounce shampoo bottles that accidentally made it past security. Just position these secretly armed students in tactical desk positions while they're solving the algebra problems on the blackboard. I would feel so much safer sending my child to school. Armed teachers and students to fight off potential armed and disturbed fellow citizens. Sounds like a video game idea in here somewhere. This Oklahoma legislator needs to grow a brain. The scariest part of his statement is that he's been considering this proposal for a long time.
      Peace-NOLAcatlover

    •  well, it could be an elective, like ROTC (1+ / 0-)
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      It would be good job training for all the millions of Security Guards that will be needed in all public areas to control the gun mayhem.

      Or, just maybe, we could call it enough. And put some sanity into our gun laws.

      This Rover crossed over.. Willie Nelson, written by Dorothy Fields

      by Karl Rover on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 07:24:37 PM PST

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  •  The stupid bastard (10+ / 0-)

    doesn't even realise that School Districts already work closely with local PDs.

    Tulsa Public Schools, the fifth largest school district in the whole damned country has it's own Police Department.

    Broken Arrow Public Schools have armed officers from the BA Police Department permanently in school.

    Owasso PD does the same

    I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
    but I fear we will remain Democrats.

    by twigg on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 10:26:34 AM PST

    •  Perhaps you should re-educate this elected (8+ / 0-)

      official.

      Facts are stubborn things.

      202-224-3121 to Congress in D.C. USE it! You can tell how big a person is by what it takes to discourage them. "We're not perfect, but they're nuts."--Barney Frank 01/02/2012

      by cany on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 10:28:05 AM PST

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    •  I know a lot of Tulsa teachers and I guarantee (4+ / 0-)
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      you, they aren't going to class packing heat.

      I just love  our state!

      Liberals: Taking crap for being right since before you were born. - Driftglass (and the amazing Professional Left Podcast at http://professionalleft.blogspot.com/)

      by briefer on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 10:28:23 AM PST

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    •  He might realize - (6+ / 0-)

      he just doesn't care.

      He thinks John Wayne and Wyatt Earp were ideal, and the Old West was the Age of Heroes.

      I am not religious, and did NOT say I enjoyed sects.

      by trumpeter on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 10:32:44 AM PST

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      •  The Earps banned guns (4+ / 0-)
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        John Wayne, an imaginary person, had regular shoot-outs in the town square.

        Wyatt Earp, a real person, and his brother, Virgil Earp, "made the decision to disarm the Cowboys in Tombstone." (See Wikipedia)

        So these testosterone-fueled gun-fetishist cowboys and cowgirls aren't even historically accurate when they live out their adolescent fantasies in their imaginations.

        •  Yep ... (1+ / 0-)
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          There was a time when Tombstone had the tightest gun regulations in the land ...

          I know! It's crazy!

          I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
          but I fear we will remain Democrats.

          by twigg on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 11:35:05 AM PST

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          •  "Tombstone" (0+ / 0-)

            one of the better westerns out there.  They at least tried for some accuracy.

            But even there, gun violence was rampant, and was seen as the right way to do things.

            I am not religious, and did NOT say I enjoyed sects.

            by trumpeter on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 12:04:54 PM PST

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        •  Wyatt Earp was a very practical man (1+ / 0-)
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          His reputation as a gunfighter came from his ability to stay calm, aim and shoot while the other guy was blazing away.

          So he hit what he shot at.

          He was not a "fast draw" type.  He was legendary for his calm.

          I don't find the thought of him wanting to take guns away from drunken idiots surprising at all.

    •  Good job making your argument (0+ / 0-)

      Calling him a stupid bastard without knowing him makes you an ignorant asshole.  Fine way to represent what is supposed to be a tolerant community.

      •  The cap fits. nt (0+ / 0-)

        I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
        but I fear we will remain Democrats.

        by twigg on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 12:38:48 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

      •  I'll add this ... (3+ / 0-)
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        I live one School District away from this guy.

        He is one of the ignorant politicians who makes the lives of my children more dangerous than they need to be because of this obscene GOP fetish with more guns.

        I think the pejorative description is quite appropriate.

        YMMV

        I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
        but I fear we will remain Democrats.

        by twigg on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 12:44:25 PM PST

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        •  Then please, stop sounding like the far-out (0+ / 0-)

          ...left or right?  Make a good comment, state your case because of your position, and leave out the bullshit name-calling?  I know him, and he's not a bad guy, and I don't agree with him, but here I am wasting my time on a person who can't come up with a more "perjorative" term than "stupid bastard"?  Ugh.

      •  Trying to cut the costs of providing trained (0+ / 0-)

        protection for our kids, while simultaneously avoiding addressing other issues like affordable healthcare coverage for people who might need to be prevented from accessing fire arms for one.

        There's pro-gun and then there's pro-stupid.

        Putting BARELY trained teachers in a class with guns and expecting them to be able to WIN a gun fight in a school packed with children is definitely stupid.

        If he really wants someone armed in the school, then follow other examples with actual professional police officers that log countless hours not only in target practice and gun safety, but also in tactical situations.

        Going all cheapo on us and simply putting a gun in a busy, over extended, underpaid teacher's hand and expecting a good outcome is not the sign of highly functional executive functions.

        The whole idea smacks of someone who doesn't know much about tactical training, or combat, because if he did, he would have presented a different idea entirely.

        How many untrained or barely trained people, really think they could RAMBO their way to a victory in a close quartered gun fight with 25 to 35 extra bodies to hit per classroom?

        Seriously?

        I can be understanding of a lot of things, but when it comes to this, I too confess that I don't suffer fools. And this idea is incredibly foolish.

        And Who is going to pay for all this training? Who is going to pay for the guns and the ammunition? Who will be liable if the teacher has to shoot someone, or hits the wrong person by accident?

        How many hours will the teacher have to complete to maintain their certification and will that realistically be enough to make them as competent as some people want to imagine in a live fire, combat situation?

  •  So let me see if I got this right: (6+ / 0-)

    public school teachers are "parasites" and "terrorists" because they belong to the teacher's union. But we should give these teachers guns and deputize them as Deputy Dawgs.

    Which is it, McCullough? "Parasites" or "Deputies"? I suppose it would be contingent upon how busted the State's union is.

    Get your goddamned guns out of my church. This means you.

    by commonmass on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 10:41:06 AM PST

  •  Mommy, why does my teacher have a gun? (5+ / 0-)

    "Because bad men are going to come to your school and try to kill you and your teacher wants to kill them first".

    /s

  •  Because no student (2+ / 0-)
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    would ever get ahold of the loaded gun in the classroom while the teacher was busy attending to other students, right?

  •  He didn't even look at the (3+ / 0-)
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    Open Carry laws we now have - guns are specifically prohibited in public schools.  He needs to write a bill to repeal or amend that law before he goes around spouting off that we should place guns in public schools.

    Also, Oklahoma is one of the states that averted a school shooting through - no, not guns, guess again! Through paying attention and reporting it when someone claimed they were going to shoot students in a school - the future shooter was arrested.  That happened in Bartlesville, just outside Tulsa, just hours before the Sandy Hook massacre.

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    by Noddy on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 11:59:27 AM PST

  •  I know Mark McCullough personally (1+ / 0-)
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    I think I can explain his reasoning, but I can't defend it.  He truly believes there is good and evil and not much in between.  He is a lifelong hunter and the safest person with guns I have ever met.  His reasoning is that people that have the same morals and training as he does won't possibly let anything bad happen with the guns they carry on their person.  I can tell you for certain that he would have been the first person whether he was armed or not, to try and stop the tragedy at that school.  He's one of the best men I know, and the only one I know that is completely guided by his morals and not his pocketbook, unlike a shitload of democrats that few around here ever seem to find fault with.

    •  I appreciate (3+ / 0-)
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      your sharing your personal experience with Rep. McCullough. I don't know him so I can't agree or argue with you. I just know that by rushing this morning to put out this press release, he presents the appearance, to me and I suspect to many others, that he is exploiting the situation for political gain. He says he's been thinking about this legislation for a while; under the circumstances of recent days, he should have thought a bit longer.

      I also know that many otherwise good and decent people hold "values" or policy positions that might not reflect the common good, as I and most people interpret it at the present time. I have such people in my immediate family.

      I stand by my critique that McCullough's press release today was "unwise," at a minimum.

      Oklahoma: birthplace of Kate Barnard, W. Rogers, W. Guthrie, Bill Moyers & Eliz. Warren. Home to proud progressive agitators since before statehood. Current political climate a mere passing dust cloud; we're waiting it out & planning for clearer days.

      by peacearena on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 12:40:24 PM PST

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      •  Like I said (1+ / 0-)
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        peacearena

        I can't defend his position, but I can attest to his honesty and lack of ambition politically.  I wish he was more like me (pro-choice, pro- equal marriage, etc.) but I can assure you and everyone else in this thread that attempts to equate his policies to political gain, you are wrong.  His timing has never been great, but his convictions are never in doubt.

        •  His convictions (3+ / 0-)
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          may not be in doubt, but in this instance, they are irrational and just plain wrong.

          I agree that some may have gone over the top to malign him here'-- emotions are high right now. But he also acted out of high emotion by making this public statement today, so he will just have to buck up and take the criticism.

          Oklahoma: birthplace of Kate Barnard, W. Rogers, W. Guthrie, Bill Moyers & Eliz. Warren. Home to proud progressive agitators since before statehood. Current political climate a mere passing dust cloud; we're waiting it out & planning for clearer days.

          by peacearena on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 01:00:29 PM PST

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        •  I know him too, and he (3+ / 0-)
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          has no business spouting this tripe when he doesn't even understand the laws already in place in Oklahoma. He has totally ignored the laws regarding concealed and open carry in the state of Oklahoma, and as I said before, he would have to write bills to repeal or amend the open carry laws before he could even consider what he proposes.

          It doesn't matter how well intentioned or "honest" he is, and his convictions, when not based on facts, are to be seriously doubted.

          One would think, with his law degrees, he'd understand he can't do what he proposes.  Therefore his press release is pure political bullshit.

          He abstained from voting on the open carry law, but that doesn't absolve him from knowing what the current gun laws are in Oklahoma if he's going to presume to speak on them as a state representative.

          All knowledge is worth having. Check out OctopodiCon to support steampunk learning and fun. Also, on DKos, check out the Itzl Alert Network.

          by Noddy on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 01:19:36 PM PST

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    •  I am sure Mrs Lanza thought the same thing (0+ / 0-)
      He is a lifelong hunter and the safest person with guns I have ever met.  His reasoning is that people that have the same morals and training as he does won't possibly let anything bad happen with the guns they carry on their person.
      Why place a teacher in a position where they may have to shoot a child from their school in the first place?

      Why not spend the extra money to install professional police officers or someone with that kind of training?

      Why would you think that anyone who didn't know this person, seeing this bill, wouldn't be turned off by this suggestion?

      It looks like something straight from a lobby. We don't need mouthpieces right now. We need people to really put some thought and some effort into pragmatic solutions.

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