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Very briefly: Calling Sandy Hook a "tragedy" is part of the spin that will place the event beyond human control, which is exactly what the NRA and the rest of the Gun Cult want to achieve as quickly as possible. With the shooter murderer conveniently dead, the criminality of what he did won't be explored and it needs to be. Calling this atrocity "tragic" or chalking it up to "evil" lets this perp and future perps escape the true judgement and condemnation of civilized society.  

This was the act of a human being with a gun. It wasn't an act of God. We can't do anything about an act of God, but we damn sure can do something about human beings with guns.

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  •  a big part of why... (6+ / 0-)

    though understandable I guess, I hate when things like "God called them home" are said...makes it sound like it was planned destiny rather than an absolute theft of life.

    "It's almost as if we're watching Mitt Romney on Safari in his own country." -- Jonathan Capeheart

    by JackND on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 10:27:32 AM PST

  •  Left Behind - it was also a tragedy (3+ / 0-)
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    lina, ConfusedSkyes, Neuroptimalian

    and all the guilty parties are dead. If the shooter had not committed suicide I think you would have seen the criminal nature of this event became the primary theme.

    "let's talk about that"

    by VClib on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 10:31:32 AM PST

    •  The murderer is condemned (1+ / 0-)
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      BlackSheep1

      Although he committed suicide he is certainly not getting a free ride and is condemned by society.  I leave judgment to God.

    •  Exactly. And no. (0+ / 0-)

      "If the shooter had not committed suicide I think you would have seen the criminal nature of this event became the primary theme."

      That's exactly my point. Because he's dead the very necessary exploration of this event as a criminal act is short circuited and that is wrong and dangerous.

      I reject the word "tragedy" completely. A tragedy is something you bring upon yourself; as a society, yes, this is a tragic situation because it's our own damn culture of violence that brought it about. But those kids and teachers were victims of violent crime, period.

    •  VClib, I have to disagree... (1+ / 0-)
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      about the "criminal nature" of the tragedy.  It's being reported widely now that Adam Lanza was literally unable to feel pain, thus he cut himself and burned himself in order to try and feel something.  It's also becoming evident that, whatever his mental problems were over the years, they worsened considerably as and after his parents divorced.  His mother is being described as having pushed him severely, and had even removed him from his high school to home school him because the school refused to provide the assistance she felt he needed.  (Whether she was right on this issue, or the school was, is hard to interpret with the limited information we have at this point.)  It's being reported today that she had recently been taking the son to visit various college campuses and was beginning to make plans to move to either Washington State or North Carolina so that he could attend colleges they'd found she thought would be appropriate.  However, it's being intimated that he was going to be expected to live in a dorm while she lived nearby.  As a loner who seemed terrified of talking to people at school, this plan might well have been what pushed him over the edge, the mother's acts pushing him toward independence he was nowhere near ready for.

      Anyway, had he survived, I'm pretty sure Adam Lanza would have been treated as a severely mentally disabled individual rather than a criminal defendant.  

      Had the mother survived, however, I think it's possible she could be found to be criminally negligent as she seemed to have played a large role in what happened in that she not only taught him how to shoot, she exacerbated his fears with her Doomsday Prepping, and she maintained weapons he could access. In fact, I'm sure we'll soon see lawsuits filed against her estate along these lines.

      "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the universe." -- Albert Einstein

      by Neuroptimalian on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 02:48:24 PM PST

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  •  If the 20 year old man that perpetrated (1+ / 0-)
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    this crime was ill, is he still held responsible for his actions?  We have lots of legal precedent that says no.  

    David Koch is Longshanks, and Occupy is the real Braveheart.

    by PsychoSavannah on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 11:16:39 AM PST

    •  Actually, we really don't. (0+ / 0-)

      In this day and age, proving an insanity defense is next to impossible, particularly when the perpetrator planned the criminal activity beforehand (going and stealing the weapons first certainly qualifies).  In most jurisdictions, in order to raise an insanity defense, the defendant has to show that he basically had no idea what he was doing, or that he we so out of it that he simply could not exercise any control over his behavior.  

      Not to mention the fact that juries hate insanity defenses (so much that defendants will often waive their right to a jury trial when raising the defense).  

      In short, simply having a mental illness is nowhere near enough to get someone like Lanza off the hook, criminally.

  •  in the same way, (1+ / 0-)
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    misslegalbeagle

    referring to the murderer as a "shooter" depersonalizes the crime.

    As my father used to say,"We have the best government money can buy."

    by BPARTR on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 12:07:27 PM PST

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