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If "corporations are people," as we've been told by our betters, hasn't the NRA, through years of propaganda aimed at stoking paranoia and selling arms to said paranoid markets, in effect been yelling "FIRE" in the crowded theater that is our country?

I am still irrational with anger over Sandy Hook.  But it seems to me if the NRA is a person, they should be criminally liable whenever a gun nut decides to act on their paranoia and use the tools sold to them to do so.

PS - In case you haven't figured it out, I'm no lawyer.  But I am an angry parent, and a heartbroken American.

Oh yeah - and a gun owner.

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  •  No. No criminal or civil. (3+ / 0-)

    Simply put, it's a terribly slippery slope to punish people for trying to change the laws; we should focus on trying to reduce the money that's involved in the process and nothing more. I may feel the First Amendment is a tad overrated, but however much I may dislike guns and the NRA, this would be draconian.

    •  Non profits can be corporations. What I am (2+ / 0-)
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      wondering is if some kind of case can be made on liability similar to what was successful for the tobacco cases against arms manufacturers.

      Dunno if that's possible, but it sure is attractive.

      202-224-3121 to Congress in D.C. USE it! You can tell how big a person is by what it takes to discourage them. "We're not perfect, but they're nuts."--Barney Frank 01/02/2012

      by cany on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 12:53:59 PM PST

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  •  It's a non-profit. (1+ / 0-)
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    Not a corporation.  That makes it tax-exempt and all kinds of other things that protect it legally and financially.

    Of course it's also a funnel for corporate payoffs to politicians, but that's another story.

  •  No (eom) (2+ / 0-)
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    johnny wurster, misslegalbeagle

    Done with politics for the night? Have a nice glass of wine with Palate Press: The online wine magazine.

    by dhonig on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 01:00:28 PM PST

  •  BTW, not a 501c3 but a 501c4 according to Wiki. (1+ / 0-)
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    That explains a lot about how they get away with what they do.

    202-224-3121 to Congress in D.C. USE it! You can tell how big a person is by what it takes to discourage them. "We're not perfect, but they're nuts."--Barney Frank 01/02/2012

    by cany on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 01:03:03 PM PST

    •  They have a (c)(3) also, I believe... (1+ / 0-)
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      ...and my guess is, that side of the operation sticks to educational stuff.  There's also the Institute for Legislative Action (ILA), which isn't a non-profit, and does their lobbying and overtly political work.
      For as long as the NRA has been around, I'd be surprised if they're not adhering pretty tightly to the letter of the law. They know there are plenty of folks out there that would love to see them shut down.

      •  I couldn't find the c3, but maybe you're right. (0+ / 0-)

        Does their site specifically say the donations are tax deductible? If not, I bet they are not a c3.

        202-224-3121 to Congress in D.C. USE it! You can tell how big a person is by what it takes to discourage them. "We're not perfect, but they're nuts."--Barney Frank 01/02/2012

        by cany on Tue Dec 18, 2012 at 01:01:57 AM PST

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        •  The (c)(3) is a separate organization. (1+ / 0-)
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          From wikipedia:

          Established in 1990, The NRA Foundation raises tax-deductible contributions in support of a wide range of firearm related public interest activities of the National Rifle Association of America and other organizations that defend and foster the Second Amendment rights of all law-abiding Americans. These activities are designed to promote firearms and hunting safety, to enhance marksmanship skills of those participating in the shooting sports, and to educate the general public about firearms in their historic, technological and artistic context. Funds granted by The NRA Foundation benefit a variety of constituencies throughout the United States including children, youth, women, individuals with physical disabilities, gun collectors, law enforcement officers, hunters and competitive shooters.
  •  Thanks for humoring me (1+ / 0-)
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    But obviously my angry analogies won't change anything.  I appreciate your responses.

  •  Nope. (1+ / 0-)
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    We don't jail people for their political beliefs in this country.  

    •  I guess, (0+ / 0-)

      if by "political beliefs" you mean marketing activities designed to stoke paranoia and divisiveness, and sell for profit, without any restrictions whatsoever, tools whose sole purpose is to kill, and which are then used to do so in mass acts of terror.

      Look, I appreciate your participation, but your response smacks of sanctimony.  The Supreme Court has ruled, if I'm not mistaken, that there are limits to free speech.  Perhaps those limits don't apply here - I readily admit to having no legal training.  But am I suggesting we jail people for their beliefs like a banana republic?  I don't think so, or at least, that was certainly not my intention.

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