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Barely 12 hours after Rick Snyder had the good sense to veto a bill that would have allowed concealed weapons in schools and day care centers, word comes out that a state rep in South Carolina has tabled a bill that would allow public school employees with concealed weapons permits to carry their guns on school property.  Apparently the bill's author must be taking his cue from Louie "Defensive Wounds" Gohmert.

The bill comes less than a week after 20-year-old Adam Lanza shot and killed 26 people – including 20 children – at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn. It was one of the worst school shootings in U.S. history.

“The people who are doing these heinous crimes realize that there are no guns at all in a school. All they have to do is get ... in the door,” said state Rep. Phillip Lowe, R-Florence, who proposed the bill. “Even with one person watching the door, all (a shooter) has to do is take that one person out and they know the rest of the school is completely defenseless.

“This (bill) would put doubt in that person’s mind.”

Read the full text here.  It's not much better than the bill Snyder just deep-sixed in Michigan.  At least this bill allows school boards the final say on whether a teacher or another school employee can bring his or her gun onto school property.  But it's still a wrongheaded move.  All you need is one gun to accidentally go off and kill a five-year-old.

Scott Price, general counsel for the South Carolina School Boards Association points out that the bill is not only dangerous, but it's unnecessary.  Most schools already have armed resource officers on site.

Kossacks in South Carolina need to pester their legislators--tell them to make sure this bill doesn't get out of committee.

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  •  All of this legislation (3+ / 0-)
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    4CasandChlo, crystal eyes, webranding

    is so convoluted and too expensive. From now on, all schools should be in police stations.

    >snark tag< to keep from getting bottles thrown at the chicken wire.......

  •  Watch the Republicans scream tort reform (2+ / 0-)
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    webranding, Hey338Too

    when the parents of any children who are accidentally hit by an armed employee using the gun to stop someone sue the school system.

  •  God forbid they pass a law mandating more money (5+ / 0-)

    for education, or to put books in kids' hands and computers in their classrooms.  God forbid they react to the problem of gun violence by trying to make schools better or kids more prepared to have a good future.  

    Sure, they'll lament about how God is no longer in schools and about how we have a violence-crazed society blah blah blah.  

    But do something at the level of schooling-- one of our key mechanisms of social training-- to address what they lament is a social problem?  That would be out of the question for the good Republicans running South Carolina.

    That's one more thing to add to my long list of small problems. --my son, age 10

    by concernedamerican on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 06:34:09 AM PST

  •  As a teacher, I can't imagine a worse feeling (8+ / 0-)

    than wondering where I mislaid my Glock.

    Teaching is high pressured, multitasking, mind numbing and at times chaotic profession where everyone already has too much to think about.    

    Don't put burden teachers with guns... when their classrooms already have so many loose cannons.

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    by crystal eyes on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 06:36:06 AM PST

    •  How About It. My Comment Above (1+ / 0-)
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      was kind of snark (but not totally). A good friend of mine from college 25 years ago I've re-connected with. A Principal of a high school now in a lower income school with a lot of behavior issues, but taught at all levels. We've emailed each other and talked on the phone a lot since last Friday.

      Now given he is a hippie liberal, but alas paid this way through college and then years after in the National Guard. Knows his way around guns of many kinds.

      He thinks the idea of teacher with guns literally the dumbest idea he has ever heard, and he has a long, long list of dumb ideas that are often floated and even inacted!

      When opportunity calls pick up the phone and give it directions to your house.

      by webranding on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 06:43:17 AM PST

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  •  If I Was An Elected Liberal In One Of These (0+ / 0-)

    states I might say fine dude, if this is what you want to do I will attached an amendment to your bill that requires a ton of training and if said person EVER remotely shots a kid they go to jail for the rest of their lives and everything they own go to the childrens family.

    When opportunity calls pick up the phone and give it directions to your house.

    by webranding on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 06:38:26 AM PST

  •  Carry Everywhere? (0+ / 0-)

    If school and public employees are to have concealed carry permits they should be able to carry in the governors office, their respective state houses and local government offices.

    Allowing guns in these places might go a long way in reducing gun violence in classrooms.

    P.S. - Without a strong union employees who do not wish to carry guns will be forced to do so without further remuneration and will be forced to put their lives on the line.

  •  the same state where a man was arrested twice (0+ / 0-)

    for raping the same horse.

    "Rick Perry talks a lot and he's not very bright. And that's a combination I like in Republicans." --- James Carville

    by LaurenMonica on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 06:49:10 AM PST

  •  Insanity. I'm a teacher (3+ / 0-)

    and I would never want to have a gun in the classroom.

    This is not a solution to the problems we face - it will make it worse.

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    by Denise Oliver Velez on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 06:55:51 AM PST

  •  Quite ironic (1+ / 0-)
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    Considering that the guns used in this Connecticut massacre belonged to a teacher.

    So what happens when one of our armed teachers loses it and starts shooting up the school with the gun they've been provided? Or a student gets hold of it and shoots some classmates?

    What do we do then? Arm the students? How about the cafeteria workers? Janitors? How about the pep band?

    Conservatives are like idiots at the blackjack table who keep splitting fives and losing -- and then keep thinking they lost only because they didn't bet enough.

    This is absolute insanity. I weep that we even have to debate this in this country.

    They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time, it works every time. -- Brian Fantana

    by IndyScott on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 07:04:03 AM PST

  •  Already sent letters and made (0+ / 0-)

    phone calls.  Have written to my state reps, but also the school district, all of the principals at all the schools in the district, and will bring it up at the next School Improvement Council meeting.

    David Koch is Longshanks, and Occupy is the real Braveheart.

    by PsychoSavannah on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 07:41:24 AM PST

  •  One crazed teacher +one Glock = One Tragedy (0+ / 0-)

    RTKRC - Right to keep and raise children. Trumps RTKBA - Right to keep & bear arms.

    by hideinplainsight on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 08:35:10 AM PST

  •  So a bunch of... (0+ / 0-)

    ...untrained, frightened, panicking teachers confronting a crazed gunman, bullets flying everywhere, kids getting hit, teachers shooting at each other because they don't know who the real gunman is....

    How'd that work out?

    Or the Aurora theater where pistol packin' patrons in the dark shoot back at the muzzle flash from other packing patrons...and the aisles run with blood.

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