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Tennessee Gov. Bill Haslam (R) has said the idea will be part of his discussions about how to prevent a shooting like the one in Newtown from happening in the Volunteer State.


State Sen. Frank Niceley (R) told TPM on Tuesday he believes it’s time for that to change. He plans to introduce legislation in the next session, which begins Jan. 8, that will require all schools to have an armed staff member of some kind. The current language of the bill — which is in its early form — would allow for either a so-called “resource officer” (essentially an armed police officer, the kind which most Tennessee high schools have already) or an armed member of the faculty or staff in every school in the state. The choice would allow schools that can’t afford a resource officer to fulfill the requirement without having to pay for anything beyond the cost of the training and, presumably, the weapon. But Niceley said schools should use the wiggle room to train and keep on hand armed staff not in uniform.


 “Say some madman comes in. The first person he would probably try to take out was the resource officer. But if he doesn’t know which teacher has training, then he wouldn’t know which one had [a gun],” Niceley said by phone. “These guys are obviously cowards anyway and if someone starts shooting back, they’re going to take cover, maybe go ahead and commit suicide like most of them have.”

This is insane.

This is completely insane.

Nicely's supposition that a shooter would "take cover" if fired upon is utter bull. Deputy Gardner, in Columbine, exchanged fire with one of the shooters. He didn't cower, he shot back. The shooters then "took cover" in the school library, where in seven minutes, they injured twelve students, and killed seven others.

The GOP is living in a Red Dawn fantasy world where gun owners are heroes protecting society from violence. They have totally lost touch with reality. I'm not sure I know what else to say about this.

Originally posted to Writing by Will McLeod: A Better World is Possible on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 10:24 AM PST.

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  •  Tip Jar (5+ / 0-)

    An Fhirinn an aghaidh an t'Saoghail. (The truth against the world.) Is treasa tuath na tighearna. (The common people are mightier than the lords.)

    by OllieGarkey on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 10:24:18 AM PST

  •  OK, so that makes Tennessee and South Carolina (2+ / 0-)
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    OllieGarkey, Captain Sham

    Tennessee: #4 nationwide in violent crime, #10 in murder.
    South Carolina: #2 nationwide in violent crime; #8 in murder.

    And there's not even a little bit of a sense that maybe this is getting out of hand? That they're overcompensating gun laws which are already very lax?

    "Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell." ~Edward Abbey ////\\\\ "To be a poor man is hard, but to be a poor race in a land of dollars is the very bottom of hardships." ~W.E.B. DuBois

    by rovertheoctopus on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 10:31:45 AM PST

  •  The only thing that surprises me (2+ / 0-)
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    OllieGarkey, bepanda

    is that some GOP legislator somewhere hasn't offered a bill to require teachers to carry grenade launchers under the theory that they need to be more heavily armed than attackers.

    •  I can't wait for the day when ... (0+ / 0-)

      We will all have to either each have a Drone or a Nuclear Weapon to defend ourselves against the "Government".
      I have been following the discussions on talk radio, internet forums, social media and around me and I have to admit: Americans are getting paranoia about Weapons.
      And this is all driven by Right Wing Talk Radio, the NRA, Fox News and all those people.

  •  He should talk to the MI governor and see (1+ / 0-)
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    how well ramming concealed carry through the legislature in the middle of a lame duck night went.

    MI governor, just like brainless McConnell filibustering his own bill, just vetoed the armed schools bill his party rammed through his rubber-stamp legislature.

    The American Majority is beginning to see beyond the basic babble of the wingnuts.

    "When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty (John Boner, Paul Ryan, or Scotty Walker (pick your favorite) said in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less."

    by Eman on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 10:37:24 AM PST

  •  What if they resist? (2+ / 0-)
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    OllieGarkey, Captain Sham

    What if a teacher does not want to possess a firearm, then what?  Without a strong union will he/she have to sling a sidearm on their hip?  If a teacher says, no I won't pack a pistol, will that lead to termination?  If a teacher faces termination will he/she then grab a pistol and give the school board or legislator their just desert?

  •  I'm can't imagine why (3+ / 0-)
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    OllieGarkey, Captain Sham, Egalitare

    Tennessee would want to arm those union thugs. /snark

  •  as I figured, the US isn't mature enough (1+ / 0-)
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    to properly deal with this. sigh.

    pseudoscience can kill

    by terrypinder on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 10:56:43 AM PST

  •  It is all about $$$$ (1+ / 0-)
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    This has nothing to do with second amendment ... it is all about the money and the power. That's exactly what this is all about.
    Shame on Americans, who only think about $$$

  •  Armed guards & base police were at Fort Hood, Tx (0+ / 0-)

    The Fort Hood shooting took place on November 5, 2009, at the most populous U.S. military installation in the world.  In the course of the shooting, a single gunman, an army pschiatrist,  killed 13 people and wounded 29 others.

    The armed guards, base police, base security systems, and trained servicemen were unable to prevent this massacre and I can't believe that any rational thinking human being would believe that police on campus, armed teachers, and security systems can or will prevent the next rampage of a mentally ill person with access to guns that assaults people at a school; or a mall; or a theater; or any other place were people gather.

    Mentally ill people need treatment and when necessary residental care and treatment centers to keep them from harming themselves or others. Services for the mentally ill are always among the first places deficit hawks look to make budget cuts. Consequently, people in need of care and treatment end up at the place of last resort - jail, and until then the mentally ill and the people that they come in contact with are at ever increasing risk of violent acting out that can inflict injuries and fatalities on themselves and others.

    We can and should do better but that should not include arming teachers or others at our schools.

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