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The NRA is in a corner. So be wary. They're going to break their silence in a news conference today, and we need to be ready to uncover the lies and knock down the straw men.

As a New York Times editorial today warns, they are promising "meaningful contributions" to the debate. We can't let the organization escape its past, and especially its role in drumming up guns sales over the past decade.

Myth number one is that the NRA represents a "movement" of ordinary citizens. As the Times notes, it is anything but,

The association presents itself as a grass-roots organization, but it has become increasingly clear in recent years that it represents gun makers. Its chief aim has been to help their businesses by increasing the spread of firearms throughout American society.
Debunking that myth may be the most important thing we can do today. We need to highlight the NRA's role as corporate shill for huge gun corporations that profit from honing and refining deadly machines.
In recent years, the N.R.A. has aggressively lobbied federal and state governments to dilute or eliminate numerous regulations on gun ownership. And the clearest beneficiary has been the gun industry — sales of firearms and ammunition have grown 5.7 percent a year since 2007, to nearly $12 billion this year, according to IBISWorld, a market research firm. Despite the recession, arms sales have been growing so fast that domestic manufacturers haven’t been able to keep up. Imports of arms have grown 3.6 percent a year in the last five years.

The industry has, in turn, been a big supporter of the N.R.A. It has contributed between $14.7 million and $38.9 million to an N.R.A.-corporate-giving campaign since 2005, according to a report published last year by the Violence Policy Center, a nonprofit group that advocates greater gun control. The estimate is based on a study of the N.R.A.’s “Ring of Freedom” program and very likely understates the industry’s total financial support for the association, which does not publicly disclose a comprehensive list of its donors and how much they have given.

Be ready today. They'll be trying to sell us all a bill of goods--and they'll be paying the best salesmen in the country to frame their message. Be ready.

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  •  IMHO What You Hit On Here Is Key (9+ / 0-)
    Debunking that myth may be the most important thing we can do today. We need to highlight the NRA's role as corporate shill for huge gun corporations that profit from honing and refining deadly machines.
    I used to work with this guy. Nicest guy you will ever find. But get him talking about guns and it was scary. He bought tens of thousands in guns and ammo before Obama took office cause he was worried, and he openly said via ads he saw, that he was going to ban all guns.

    I am a marketing guy and literally the marketing told him to do this. So he did it. I mean what a racket.

    When opportunity calls pick up the phone and give it directions to your house.

    by webranding on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 03:24:58 AM PST

  •  the NRA ain't going to go off reservation (8+ / 0-)

    with their comments today. they're in a corner, and they know their days are numbered. They are going to say something really compassionate and vow to work with congressional leaders and the president to enact meaningful reforms.

    it's all bullshit, but it'll sound nice for the cameras.

    I mean, the folks who run the NRA are pretty smart cookies. they know public opinion is against them. we should not underestimate their damage control.

  •  They figure a whole week has passed so that a (3+ / 0-)
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    major portion of Americans have moved beyond Newtown and they can spill their BS again.  Sure they will show a token act of how sorry they are for the victims before launching into their talking points (that apologists in the media, the Government and even here among us will repeat ad nauseum).

    In reality it will be a celebration that their reign of terror is just about complete.  Their brand of domestic terrorism has put them in control of the US Congress and of most state legislatures; of course owning the SCOTUS helped them quite a bit.

    How many more senseless deaths do we need, how many more dead children before we start the process of taking our Government back and pass sensible gun regulations to begin slowing down the carnage?

    Then they came for me - and by that time there was nobody left to speak up.

    by DefendOurConstitution on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 04:03:41 AM PST

  •  Yes. (2+ / 0-)
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    political junquie, SoCalSal

    a start: go to opensecrets.org, check out which Congressionals got NRA Money in 08, 10, 12.

    Demand they give the campaign blood money to the Brady foundation or a local food bank.

    Thump! Bang. Whack-boing. It's dub!

    by dadadata on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 04:10:59 AM PST

  •  0723 EST....Joe Scarborough (4+ / 0-)

    Is a god right now.  Seriously--he just called out the NRA and the lapdog congressmen too chickenshit to stand up to them as plainly and bluntly as anyone here ever has.  Really got my attention!  

    He's been vicious toward republicans all week.  Nice change from his pre-election cheerleading for Romney.  Hope it lasts--RWNJ heads are 'sploding right now, I'd wager.

    Political compass: -8.75 / -4.72

    by Mark Mywurtz on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 04:27:11 AM PST

    •  I guess the wind really is shifting (0+ / 0-)

      if it's turning the national weathervane

    •  I saw that and now I'm confused- (1+ / 0-)
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      political junquie

      congressman said that Connecticut already has an assault weapons ban. What I found on google re Ct. gun law says that possession of an assault weapon is a class D felony. Why do we keep hearing that Nancy Lanza purchased these guns legally- even if she bought them out of state, wouldn't the gun seller check to see whether the gun would be legal for her to possess in her home state?
      Or is this all about whether or not the Bushmaster meets the definition of an assault weapon in Connecticut?

      •  pretty sure its not the seller's responsibility (3+ / 0-)

        if i purchase fireworks in tennessee that aren't legal in florida, is it the seller's responsibility? morally, perhaps, but i'm not aware of any law like that.

        see, this is why we need to federalize gun legislation. make one consistent law for the whole US.

      •  Your last sentence (2+ / 0-)
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        political junquie, gramofsam1

        The Bushmaster is semiautomatic....doesn't meet the definition of the assault weapons ban.  Never mind that you can fire dozens of rounds in a minute and there is no legit hunting or self-defense use for such a weapon--the ban only applies to what most of us would call "machine guns".  

        Political compass: -8.75 / -4.72

        by Mark Mywurtz on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 05:19:56 AM PST

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        •  that's actually incorrect (1+ / 0-)
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          political junquie

          machine guns have been heavily regulated since the 30s. i'm not sure if machine guns are explicitly banned in CT, but most legislation doesn't even address automatics because they're so damned rare and expensive.

          i haven't seen the weapon yet, but my guess would be that it's specifically designed to get around the assault weapon ban by removing certain banned features, like bayonet lugs or pistol grips.

          •  Here's the language (2+ / 0-)
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            gramofsam1, sporks

            "Assault weapon" means any one of the following:

            1.         Any selective-fire firearm capable of fully automatic, semiautomatic or burst fire at the option of the user or any of the following specified semiautomatic firearms:  Algimec Agmi; Armalite AR-180; Australian Automatic Arms SAP Pistol; Auto-Ordnance Thompson type; Avtomat Kalashnikov AK-47 type; Barrett Light-Fifty model 82A1; Beretta AR-70; Bushmaster Auto Rifle and Auto Pistol; Calico models M-900, M-950 and 100-P; Chartered Industries of Singapore SR-88; Colt AR-15 and Sporter; Daewoo K-1, K-2, Max-1 and Max-2; Encom MK-IV, MP-9 and MP-45; Fabrique Nationale FN/FAL, FN/LAR, or FN/FNC; FAMAS MAS 223; Feather AT-9 and Mini-AT; Federal XC-900 and XC-450; Franchi SPAS-12 and LAW-12; Galil AR and ARM; Goncz High-Tech Carbine and High-Tech Long Pistol; Heckler & Koch HK-91, HK-93, HK-94 and SP-89; Holmes MP-83; MAC-10, MAC-11 Carbien type; Intratec TEC-9 and Scorpion; Iver Johnson Enforcer model 3000; Ruger Mini-14/5F folding stock model only; Scarab Skorpion; SIG 57 AMT and 500 Series; Spectre Auto Carbine and Auto Pistol; Springfield Armory BM59, SAR-48 and G-3; Sterling MK-6 and MK-7; Steyr AUG; Street Sweeper and Striker 12 revolving cylinder shotguns; USAS-12; USI Carbine, Mini-Carbine and Pistol; Weaver Arms Nighthawk; Wilkinson "Linda" Pistol.

            2.         A part or combination of parts designed or intended to convert a firearm into an assault weapon as defined in subdivision (1) or any combination of parts from which an assault weapon as defined in subdivision (1) may be rapidly assembled if those parts are in the possession or under the control of the same person.

            3.         Any semiautomatic firearm not listed in subdivision (1) that meets the following criteria:

            (A)  A semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of the following:

            i.          a folding or telescopic stock;

            ii.          a pistol grip;

            iii.         a bayonet mount;

            iv.         a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor; and

            v.         a grenade launcher.

            (B)  A semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of the following:

            i.          an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip;

            ii.          a threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward handgrip or silencer;

            iii.         a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned;

            iv.         a manufactured weight of fifty ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded; and

            v.         a semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm.

            (C)  A semiautomatic shotgun that has at least two of the following:

            i.          a folding or telescoping stock;

            ii.          a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;

            iii.         a fixed magazine capacity in excess of five rounds; and

            iv.         an ability to accept a detachable magazine.

            4.         A part or combination of parts designed or intended to convert a firearm into an assault weapon, as defined in subdivision (3), or any combination of parts from which an assault weapon, as defined in subdivision (3), may be rapidly assembled if those parts are in the possession or under the control of the same person.

            Political compass: -8.75 / -4.72

            by Mark Mywurtz on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 05:35:06 AM PST

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            •  Yes, that was what I was looking at- (0+ / 0-)

              and I still have no idea if the Bushmaster that Lanza used would meet the criteria for section 3.  This stuff is so technical that it's no wonder the laws are confusing.

              •  key part (2+ / 0-)
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                gramofsam1, SoCalSal

                ok, so autos were banned by the AWB. That's actually pretty rare. Most states don't ban automatic weapons. Again, because they're so heavily regulated by the federal gov to begin with.

                anyway, this is the key:

                3.         Any semiautomatic firearm not listed in subdivision (1) that meets the following criteria:

                (A)  A semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of the following:

                i.          a folding or telescopic stock;

                ii.          a pistol grip;

                iii.         a bayonet mount;

                iv.         a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor; and

                v.         a grenade launcher.

                gun manufacturers can get tricky with this. they can take their normal assault weapon, remove any three components (usually the granade launcher and bayonet mount) and, voila, the same functional firearm that complies with the AWB.

                This is why, generally, assault weapons bans (as they are now) are full of shit. They ban weapons that have a few cosmetic features different from what's allowed.

  •  Whoever gets up at that podium (1+ / 0-)
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    political junquie

    I hope someone throws a shoe at them.

  •  I'm ready (1+ / 0-)
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    Miggles

    I'm prepared to point out the absence of an apology from Wayne LaPierre for enabling the behavior of the gun nuts.

    "I mean we are about to be victim of a siege against the Second Amendment in this country going into Obama's second term. I mean it's going to be ugly. It's going to come hard, fast and soon. And were going to have to survive this period of unprecedented danger." - Wayne LaPierre, Dec. 3

  •  We need to focus... (1+ / 0-)
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    SoCalSal

    ...some attention on the NRA's Board of Directors.

    Joe Allbaugh (Board Member)
    Graham Hill (Board Member)
    Scott Bach (Board Member)
    Steve Hornady (Board Member)
    Buster Bachhuber (Board Member)
    Roy Innis (Board Member)
    Carol Bambery (Board Member)
    Joaquin Jackson (Board Member)
    Bob Barr (Board Member)
    David Keene (Board Member)
    Ronnie Barrett (Board Member)
    Tom King (Board Member)
    Clel Baudler (Board Member)
    Herbert Lanford (Board Member)
    Ken Blackwell (Board Member)
    Wayne LaPierre (Executive Vice President and CEO)

    Matt Blunt (Board Member)
    Karl Malone (Board Member)
    John Bolton (Chairman of International Affairs Subcommittee)
    John Milius (Board Member)
    Rep. Dan Boren (Board Member)
    Buz Mills (Board Member)
    Bob Brown (Board Member)
    Cleta Mitchell (Board Member)
    Pete Brownell (Board Member)
    Grover Norquist (Board Member)
    John Burtt (Board Member)
    Chuck Norris (Celebrity Spokesperson)
    Dave Butz (Board Member)
    Oliver North (Board Member)
    Harlon Carter (Former NRA Executive Vice President)
    Ted Nugent (Board Member)
    Richard Childress (Board Member)
    Johnny Nugent (Board Member)
    Jim Porter (First Vice President)
    Chris Cox (Executive Director)
    Jay Printz (Board Member)
    David Coy (Board Member)
    Todd Rathner (Board Member)
    Larry Craig (Board Member)
    Kayne Robinson (Executive Director of NRA General Operations Division)
    Wayne Anthony Ross (Board Member)
    R. Lee Ermey (Board Member)
    Ron Schmeits (Board Member)
    Manny Fernandez (Board Member)
    Tom Selleck (Board Member)
    Sandy Froman (Board Member)
    John Sigler (Board Member)
    Jim Gilmore (Board Member)
    Linda Walker (Board Member)
    Marion Hammer (Board Member)
    Maria Heil (Board Member)
    Rep. Don Young (Board Member)

    This site is doing some digging on these guys.

    Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

    by Meteor Blades on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 05:48:20 AM PST

  •  Pure conjecture (0+ / 0-)

    but I wouldn't be surprised if theymake some announcement paying lip service to or even about channeling some funding into mental health.

    We must not let them get away with conflating mental health with gun control.

  •  I think the NRA (0+ / 0-)

    Will hold fire so to speak.

    They have 2 tracks they can go.

    They can sort of try to delay an legislation until the public fervor dies down and then get their members to bombard vulnerable rural dems in the house and senate with emails.

    OR, they can sort of set back and let things happen. Let the dems try to ram thru some sort of gun control, then rally their members at the next election, and depending on how extreme the legislation is then they can basically get a majority in the house and senate and repeal the gun bill along with Obama care and Dodd Frank.

    #2 is basically what they did after Brady AWB.

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