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They've been working on this for decades; putting everything in place to activate an army of fascist NRA gun thugs using the veneer of "security" as an excuse, but make no mistake about it, what we witnessed today in the NRA press conference marks one of those moments in history that can be clearly identified as "landmarks."

The rabid right wing religious fundamentalist, end-of-day fanatics, holding the bible in one hand and their semi-automatic rifle in the other, chomping at the bit to be called for active duty to defend the country against "criminals," "secularists," and "socialists" just got their marching orders by the NRA.

Read between the lines.  They are calling for the creation of paramilitary forces made up of ex-military people, and retired police officers, and trained NRA members, purportedly to protect our school children!  And why?  Because the budgets police departments across the country have been decimated!  And how did that happen?  Who has been working day and night to destroy the proper functioning of the American government?

Of course, that effort has been paid for the fascist billionaires, and executed by their puppets in Congress--of both political parties.

So now, having brought the proper functioning of the American government to a halt, which helps creates insecurity, and anxiety in the population, they take advantage and move in, like good goosestepping fascists that they are, and promise us security through a private army of God, manned by NRA fanatics.

Folks, the danger is not much different than what happen in Germany in the early 1930s.  We are witnessing the rise of a group of well-funded armed thugs ready to usurp the last bastion of government authority--the use of violence in the name of protecting the population.

And these people have infiltrated the military, and police forces across the country.

There is still time to stop them, but we all have to wake up and realize the danger we face.

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  •  I think the purpose of the NRA is to sell guns (7+ / 0-)

    to make money for its biggest members.

    •  Let me clarify my comment. I don't think (2+ / 0-)
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      x, means are the ends

      the NRA is deliberately trying to create a private army.  But I agree with the diarist that that is indeed a risk.

      This country is so fucked up.

      •  This is true... (2+ / 0-)
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        But it will be a slaughter watching the US military take on this army.  Just like in Syria and Lybia the only advantage they will have is those of us who are innocent as shields...  they won't dare put on uniforms so that they can be identified.  And you can imagine that just as the Republican Guard did in Iraq, at the advance of the US army they will lay down their weapons and meld into the general population...

        it is stupid...  we should be working together to grab the slackers and idiots by the collar and demand that they line up.  

        Insanity is prevailing so far...

    •  Agreed: "Guns. Lots and Lots of Guns!" seems to be (3+ / 0-)
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      their animus, much more than the desire to create a fascist shadow-military.  As other posters have said in the NRA Liveblog thread, the NRA is owned by the gun manufacturers, and their extremist positions come from that place: pro-gun extremism makes for rich and happy gun manufacturers.

  •  The NRA facists have shown their cards (5+ / 0-)
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    We can stop them. In fact, we must stop them. You are correct, if allowed they would become a fascist force.

    They are like the thug paramilitary forces in Iran that enforce the rule of the mullahs.

    look for my eSci diary series Thursday evening.

    by FishOutofWater on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 09:00:39 AM PST

    •  They are the fascist force already. There was a (1+ / 0-)
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      years-long process to make this happen, and it all happen right before our eyes.  The situation in the U.S. right now is very dangerous.  Many government agencies have been infiltrated by these thugs.  It's all being financed by the Koch brothers and other fascist billionaires.

      Many people have been sounding the alarm on this for quite some time.  

  •  WTF did I just read? (3+ / 0-)

    I've been known to be hyperbolic about these people but this is just sensationalism at its worst. You're really trying to say that an organization that has seen its influence GREATLY reduced over a past few days is really going to be able to start Phase One of some great insurrection?

    To quote the guys on Monday Night Countdown,

    "C'mon, man!"

  •  Well, if it is a "Well-Regulated" militia (3+ / 0-)
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    then it should  all be well and good, right?  :-)

    I personally have no problem with police in schools.  We have that now and it should be expanded given that nuts everywhere see schools as easy targets.

    I cannot comprehend why the NRA did not just say "more police in schools" instead of wanting to create a para-military force.  They are truly in la-la land.  

    •  I don't have children, so have no dog in the hunt (0+ / 0-)

      But it seems to me that all gun owners need to have insurance that pays out when damages occur, and also there should be a tax to cover the costs of security levied on manufacturers, dealers and owners.

      Make them pay for it, not the rest of us. We are paying enough already in deaths, blood, maiming, and PTSD.

      Women create the entire labor force. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sympathy is the strongest instinct in human nature. - Charles Darwin

      by splashy on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 01:51:37 PM PST

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  •  Since powerful guns are necessary; (3+ / 0-)

    -A school is attacked with powerful weapons enabled by the NRA:

    Let us build hardened fortresses with our armed soldiers around your schools to protect the innocent from harm from our powerful but neccessary weapons.
    -Later when a school bus is attacked:
    Let us build hardened fortresses with our armed soldiers around your school buses to protect the innocent from harm from our powerful but neccessary weapons.
    -Later when another mall is attacked:
    Let us build hardened fortresses with our armed soldiers around your malls to protect the innocent from harm from our powerful but neccessary weapons.
    -Eventually:
    Let us build hardened fortresses with our armed soldiers around everything to protect the innocent from harm from our powerful but neccessary weapons.
    Does America want to live in a fortress where you have to enter protected status to be safe from crazy people?  WTF?

    If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed. Albert Einstein

    by kharma on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 09:19:41 AM PST

  •  As Joan McC's front page post indicates, (2+ / 0-)
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    the NRA called for armed POLICE in every school.

    From the transcript:  

    "I call on Congress today, to act immediately to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every single school in this nation."
    •  Did you watch the entire "press conference?" (0+ / 0-)
      •  Hell no I did not. But I read a lot about it. (1+ / 0-)
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        You make this claim:

        They are calling for the creation of paramilitary forces made up of ex-military people, and retired police officers, and trained NRA members, purportedly to protect our school children!  
        That's your central claim.  I'd like to see you support this with specific sentences from the transcript of the speech.

        I think I'm as worried about creeping fascism as you are, but I've decided this diary is way overheated.

        •  Interesting way of arguing. I stand by that (0+ / 0-)

          claim.  Watch the whole disgrace of a "press conference" and then come back and let me know.

          •  So in other words, you have nothing but (0+ / 0-)

            subjective impressions and can't prove that he said what you claim he said.  At the same time, the actual transcript is directly contrary to your claims.

            If you could prove what you say, you would do so.  It wasn't a long speech.

            I'm not impressed.

            •  I never write anything I'm nor ready to back up. (2+ / 0-)
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              Here's the quote, from the transcript:

              Now, the National Rifle Association knows that there are millions of qualified active and retired police; active, reserve and retired military; security professionals; certified firefighters and rescue personnel; and an extraordinary corps of patriotic, trained qualified citizens to join with local school officials and police in devising a protection plan for every school. We can deploy them to protect our kids now. We can immediately make America's schools safer — relying on the brave men and women of America's police force.

              The budget of our local police departments are strained and resources are limited, but their dedication and courage are second to none and they can be deployed right now.

              Fascism usually creeps in, slowly, and the reason for that is mainly to hide its rise from the general public--until it's too late.

              But the telltale signs of its rise are similar.  The perpetrators, the planners, usually engage first in bringing down the proper functioning of government.  This in turn helps spread fear and insecurity in the population.  They then swoop in offering security and protection to a confused and shell-shocked population.

              The NRA, ALEC, and their fascist billionaire backers have been working at this for years...

  •  Whatcha gotta realize (2+ / 0-)
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    is that whatever else a guy who thinks he always needs multiple powerful firearms for protection from the Big Bad World is, he is first and foremost a COWARD. Too cowardly to put his neck on the line unless directly ordered to by a strong, national leader. Fortunately for us, no such leader exists. This is why I have more contempt than fear for the NRA and the other merry bands of gun nuts.

    Visit Lacking All Conviction, your patch of grey on those too-sunny days.

    by eataTREE on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 09:40:31 AM PST

    •  I'm not so much afraid as basically wanting to (1+ / 0-)
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      inform people about these rising threats.  I think part of the problem is that people tend to "listen" to the propaganda and talking points and fail to "see" what's happening right in front of their eyes, because they lack "malice."  People of goodwill (the majority of Americans) can't get their heads around the fact that there are forces, individuals, movements, who would and will turn authoritarian and fascistic in a blink of eye.

  •  The world didn't end today- (5+ / 0-)

    But it went off the rails a bit. I listened to Boehner say "spending problem" about two dozen times, and then listened to LaPierre tell us all that more guns are the answer....Holy shit!! I'm going to start drinking earlier today than usual.

  •  It is pretty clear that the disease, insanity is (2+ / 0-)
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    becoming pervasive in this county and probably soon the world.  I don't know what the first weapon was in the world, maybe a rock or even the hands of the individual who slew another.  None the less, as time has been spent men have refined the process of killing whether it be murder, war, self defense...what ever the reason a person has to take the life of another we have inventions that can well perform the task.

    And today there is the assumed argument that goes "what ever it takes"...  Those believe that security is having a weapon even to one that when fired off may kill even the innocent.  What is scary is that these people are deaf to any other reasonable dialogue that deals with safety and security between individuals.  

    Those who stand beneath the nra shield spend 99.9999 % of their thought process and financial energy in acquiring and refining weapons.  Read the history of men.  Great men have always assembled armies (armed men) for the purpose of subjugation and domination.  Did not work for Alexander, it played out for Atillian the Hun, Adolph Hitler and know we see the likes of the late Richard Butler, Tom Metzger and others preaching race war and hyping up people through hatred and fear.  This too shall pass.  

    I remember a few years ago being on a chat site with an obnoxiously blunt racist who was talking about their plan to take out every one that was not aryan and sympathetic to aryanism.  i asked simply asked him what was the plan to rid the cities of all the bodies and who was going to do it.  what was their plan...

    I can see not long after they have taken over that their children will become bored with this new existance and rise up in rebellion against the aryan hiarchy...  

    can anyone dispute the old adage..."live by the sword, die by the sword"...

    •  That's the problem on the left; they (we) tend to (3+ / 0-)
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      think that everything can be worked out through reasoned dialogue.  You can do that with reasonable people.  When you are dealing with fascist thugs, extremists and religious fundamentalists, it is very hard to be reasonable.  In fact it's impossible.

      •  shows where your confidence is... (1+ / 0-)
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        the same as the thug...  so you are giving in to his culture...  when you look at the results of dialogue as opposed to gun fire it will temper your reasoing that only forced violence can prevail with idiots...  

        I come from the 60s when there were demostrations in the streets and the smell of gun powder and blood.  The society and solution you see in guns is not unlike the middle east and other countries where the power of the bullet is the rule...  

        I am 60 + years old, only have about 20 + more years with you guys.  I say lets exhaust reasoning, plant seed of it or you will be promoting seeds of violence.  You won't enjoy it in 15 years if you don't at least try to stem it.  

        •  I never advocate violence or the use of guns. But (0+ / 0-)

          there are many, many ways of dealing with thugs and bullies.  If fact, through my working career one of my most memorable and satisfying things has been when I've taken on the biggest loudmouth abusive bully.

          Have you ever been in a meeting (work-related, or otherwise), and some loudmouth asshole proceed to use abusive language and put downs or make inappropriate comments, and people don't know how to react?  They just wiggle in their chairs, uncomfortable.

          I would be the guy on the other side of the table, who calmly but firmly will call out the bully, head on, without fear and without being intimidated, as the other people's jaws drop to the ground.

          But I think there is a mortal danger in being a peace-nick, in being afraid in the face of lunacy and intimidation tactics by bullies and thugs.

          How many videos I've seen of good people trying to hold a meeting at a park and some boot-wearing asshole approaches them and starts yelling at them, calling them communists and socialists and all kinds of names, with his veins popping out of his neck... One fucking guy intimidating a group of 25 people!  How does that happen?

          •  If we have come to the point where we fear (0+ / 0-)

            work though situations and circumstance of chaos or idiocy what makes our society any different than the middle east?  It may be that this is where we have evolved, I don't think so but you may.  

            It may be that way for the majority of Americans.  Sad if this is true Ray.

            There are ways to negotiate even with the nazis...  in civil society legally you get in trouble when you assume.  I would have not been afraid to go into Richard Butler's compound in Coeur D'Alene.  He was not that stupid.  I am from the deep south.  I am a professional and work in an  industry where all kind of people work.  

            You probably won't believe me but I have regular dialouge with known klansmen.  We have come to see that there are things we have in common and some of them have admitted that I am not all like the rhetoric of their sect teach.  May not make a difference but if it does it is worth it.  I am not stupid Ray but I want hope for my grandchildren.  I will teach them how to deal with fools but also to be able to live at peace wtih those who would.

      •  what sense does it make to just reason with... (2+ / 0-)
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        reasonable people...  does it make sense to teach science to scientists?  

        I was living on the Monterey Coast in a writers colony in the early 70s.  There was a guy there who everyone said was a genius.  I stayed away from him not knowing what to expect.  Finally after many days he cornered me one day by surprise and we talked.  

        Out of the whole dialogue I had with him the most profound thing he said to me was that he felt that since he was considered intellectually superior to most people that he then felt that it was his responsibility to make himself understood and not the other way around.  

        That impacted me for the rest of my life.  I see so many 'smart' people who look down on other people just because they may have had the discipline to spend 4 to 6 years or more in an institution to get a degree.  

        there are some brilliant people walking around whose genius just needs to be tapped.  all the tools needed to solve the problems of the world are at hand at all times.  But the predjudice of men keeps them from being energized.

  •  I never said to toss your weapon in the bottom of (0+ / 0-)

    the well...  you may need it...  "If you live by the gun, you most certainly will die by it"

    it is not reasonable for an intelligent society to not endeavor to find dialogue.  

    there are sworn enemies who blame each other for being unreasonable...  and walk around each other everyday with that idea in mind missing opportunities to dialogue.  When I left home in 1968 as a young black male I had been told by the prevailing street wisdom that all whites were bad and all blacks were good.  

    not too many weeks later I found the flaw of that wisdom...  there are blacks not worth pissing on if they were on fire and there are white who are trust worthy and seek the same things as I do in this life...  and visa versa...  it sickens me to see people on all sides of the fences who will not dialogue or come out of their bull shyt comfort zone where they have received some damning lies...  and because of it we all suffer.  

    Look back in the history of the world, great men dared to go beyond the 'norm' and in so many cases changed the world...

  •  Opposite of a private army (0+ / 0-)

    With no unified command there's no private army, any more than the set of all armored car operators is an army.

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