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Last week's summary of NRA ideas on gun control

The New York Times looks beyond the "fiscal cliff" and beyond the idea that what the nation needs is to make permanent tax rates that were a bad idea to begin with.

The main problem is that the current tax code is incapable of raising the revenue needed to pay for the goods and services of government. Over the last four years, federal revenue as a share of the economy has fallen to its lowest level in nearly 60 years, a result of the recession, the weak recovery and a decade’s worth of serial tax cuts. Even with deep spending cuts, the chronic revenue shortfall is expected to continue, swelling the federal debt — unless taxes go up. To stabilize the debt over the next 10 years while financing more investment would require at least $1.5 trillion to $2 trillion in new revenue, above what could be raised by letting the top income tax rate revert to its pre-Bush-era level of 39.6 percent.

A logical way to help raise the additional needed revenue would be to tax capital gains at the same rates as ordinary income. Capital gains on assets held for more than a year before selling are taxed at about the lowest rate in the code, currently 15 percent and expected to rise to 20 percent in 2013. That is an indefensible giveaway to the richest Americans.

Chris Cillizza hands out his worst year in Washington award to our pals at the Tea Party.
The Gadsden flag, which flew proudly over the 2010 midterm elections, now lies in tatters — rent by internal disagreements, losses among its most visible standard-bearers and a growing sense that the tea party movement, which once looked like it could transform American politics, will soon be nothing more than a blip in the country’s collective memory.
It's not like the tea party did nothing this year. They were critical to Democratic wins in the Senate.

Chris Cillizza also hands out a good year award to a Kos alum.

Republicans reacted with outrage as Silver’s model kept pumping out predictions that Obama had an 80 percent (or higher) chance of winning. A columnist for the Examiner chain critiqued Silver’s appearance and voice. Others questioned how anyone could predict to the percentage point the likelihood of Obama winning or losing. Even the mighty David Brooks — himself a columnist for the Gray Lady — scoffed at the idea of making calculations accurate to the decimal point: “If there’s one thing we know, it’s that even experts with fancy computer models are terrible at predicting human behavior...

If Silver was big before the election, he turned huge — like Jay-Z/Beyonce huge — after it. Jon Stewart called him the “God of the algorithm.” President Obama referenced Silver when talking about the annual turkey pardon. Silver was named Out Magazine’s person of the year. He even sat down with Fix hero Bill Simmons (a.k.a. the Sports Guy) for an hour-long podcast. (And, yes, we are VERY jealous.)

Of course,Nate wasn't quite as accurate as another kos alum, but hey, not a bad year.

Greg Sargent says the president has delivered his final offer.

Curtis Hubbard says that, just because the year is ending, our commitment shouldn't go with it.

We must do something. Anything. Everything.

We need more people to step forward with ideas to reduce gun violence, tackle mental illness and curb other aspects of a culture that has numbed us to violence.

Surely, if we put our national energy to this issue, we can minimize future damage. ...

Do we run the risk of overreacting? Certainly. But at least then we are acting to address the issues.

Apologies for the extremely brief APR this morning. Most of the pundits took a vacation this weekend.

Originally posted to Devil's Tower on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 07:59 PM PST.

Also republished by Daily Kos.

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Comment Preferences

  •  Is Meet the Press taped or is it (near) live? (0+ / 0-)

    The NRA is the Gun Manufacturer Lobby. Nothing more. Their pontification about the second amendment is nothing more than their ad jingle. They're the domestic version of the Military Industrial Complex.

    by Jacoby Jonze on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 08:08:14 PM PST

  •  First (0+ / 0-)

    or last, I'm not sure

    We all stand submissively before the global ATM machine network like trained chickens pecking the correct colored buttons to release our grains of corn. Joe Bageant

    by Zwoof on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 08:08:58 PM PST

  •  frankly, they've been off all year (15+ / 0-)
    Most of the pundits took a vacation this weekend.

    yksitoista ulotteinen presidentin shakki. / tappaa kaikki natsit "Nous sommes un groupuscule" (-9.50; -7.03) 政治委员, 政委‽ Warning - some snark above ‽

    by annieli on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 08:12:53 PM PST

    •  "Off" is different than on vacation. (3+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Mark Sumner, thomask, bontemps2012

      Many of them are permanently "off."  Chris Cilizza is completely "off" if he thinks the teapartiers are going the way of the Whigs anytime soon.  At the least they will have considerable clout in the House for the next two years.

      "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

      by SueDe on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 06:12:02 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  The same Chris Cilizza who said Ohio was a tossup (2+ / 0-)
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        ratcityreprobate, bontemps2012

        simply because Romney needed to win it? Am I remembering wrong here, or was that someone else?

        His article should be entitled - "Why I and the rest of the MSM have no clue, and why Nate Silver was right even though I personally didn't believe it"

        When we stop putting leaders from the past up on pedestals and ignoring their flaws, we can start seeing our present leaders for what they really are.

        by PhillyJeff on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 07:40:44 AM PST

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  •  I've been off Le Grid lately... (4+ / 0-)
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    Crashing Vor, eeff, mdmslle, bontemps2012

    Are we going off the cliff? I saw a story in WashingtonPost that suggests sequestration is inevitable, anyway.

    Anyone know?

    •  More like off the road bump... (4+ / 0-)
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      Egalitare, renzo capetti, dclawyer06, ferg

      but afaik, there still isn't a deal.

      To make the argument that the media has a left- or right-wing, or a liberal or a conservative bias, is like asking if the problem with Al-Qaeda is do they use too much oil in their hummus. Al Franken

      by Youffraita on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 12:00:20 AM PST

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      •  It's only a curb, but we'll probably go off and (1+ / 0-)
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        ferg

        severely sprain our ankle.
        You know what I mean?
        It was totally avoidable, but there we are, rest, ice, compression and elevation.
        And everybody's going, "What happened to you?"
        And we're feeling stupid and having to say, "No, I wasn't drunk..." a lot.

        You can't make this stuff up.

        by David54 on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 08:09:41 AM PST

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    •  Read that one, too. (4+ / 0-)
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      eeff, dclawyer06, ratcityreprobate, ferg

      Decent look into how auto-cuts may finally pop the Beltway's recession-proof bubble, what with DOD contractors the first to go.

      (If my experience this year is any guide, the workers have already taken the hit; now the pencil pushers are gonna get it).

      Pardon our dust. Sig line under renovation.

      by Crashing Vor on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 04:55:47 AM PST

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    •  WE HAVE TO GO OFF THE CLIFF... (0+ / 0-)

      to get rid of the damn double-dose of Bush tax giveaways.

      That resets the top tax rate to what, 39.6%.

      Then "negotiations" deal with governing the country. That is not what the John Birch Society wing of the Republican Party -- aka Tea Party -- want.

      Not at all.

      They hate democracy. Where people get to vote. All of them.

      "We have done nothing to be ashamed of. We have nothing to apologize for." NRA 12/14/2012

      by bontemps2012 on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 01:55:45 PM PST

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  •  Wow, tomorrow's news today! (1+ / 0-)
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    Melanie in IA

    Or is it yesterday's news tomorrow?

  •  i'm going to try speaking in full sentences (4+ / 0-)

    occasionally to counteract the abysmal inarticulation of copycat idiots reducing the national IQ and general fund of knowledge to feathers.
    Sometimes.

    clime parches on. terms: ocean rise, weather re-patterning, storm pathology, drout-famine, acceptance of nature.

    by renzo capetti on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 02:01:33 AM PST

  •  Getting my APR fix early (5+ / 0-)

    Headed home from Florida today and the end of Christmas vacation.
    I'd be sadder if it wasn't so cold outside (cold for SW Florida, anyway!).

    “We are not a nation that says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says ‘out of many, we are one.’” -Barack Obama

    by skohayes on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 03:10:43 AM PST

  •  How can David Brooks be so out of it? (9+ / 0-)
    “If there’s one thing we know, it’s that even experts with fancy computer models are terrible at predicting human behavior...
    Actually we're consistently learning the exact opposite. We're as predictable as any other life form.

    We're fools whether we dance or not, so we might as well dance.

    by PowWowPollock on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 04:34:38 AM PST

  •  Teahadistas....they were useful when the goal was (5+ / 0-)

    to unseat Obama....but that plan blew up....Now they're just a pain....eh Boehner?.....McConnell?

  •  Reports of the Tea Party's death... (6+ / 0-)

    ...are incredibly encouraging to me, as I'm just about to release a record that includes the "Legend of the Tea Party Patriots" song. Any tie-in publicity on a story three years old is astounding and most welcome.

    Pardon our dust. Sig line under renovation.

    by Crashing Vor on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 04:53:03 AM PST

    •  No-no-no-no-no-no-no........... (0+ / 0-)

      Lefties/progressives have had no more powerful assistance than what the Angry White Males of the Tea Party have provided.

      Maybe we could bring "Bull" Connor back to life.

      Get a television show for David Duke?

      Find a way to get George W. Bush back in public?

      "We have done nothing to be ashamed of. We have nothing to apologize for." NRA 12/14/2012

      by bontemps2012 on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 02:02:53 PM PST

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  •  Pundits on vacation: there oughta be a law. (4+ / 0-)
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    skillet, eeff, wishingwell, tb mare

    Must take time off and leave us alone. Sometimes. A little. The stoopid ones anyway.

    "This is NOT what I thought I'd be when I grew up."

    by itzik shpitzik on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 04:55:45 AM PST

  •  Gary Smith ran for GOP nomination (4+ / 0-)
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    DRo, sodalis, mdmslle, bontemps2012



    They'll go to any lengths:

    Congressional candidate charged in tire slashings

    ALBUQUERQUE (KRQE) - 29 Dec 2012 - A former congressional candidate was arrested on felony vandalism charges Friday evening for allegedly slashing the tires of his political rival.

    Police say Gary Smith, who launched a run for Congress as a Republican this year, slashed the tires of his GOP rival Janice Arnold-Jones on multiple occasions. The last incident was caught on camera. read more>>>

    His Campaign bio says:

    Smith’s campaign biography says he served in the Army for 20 years before running for Congress.
    And in the video says he worked in 'intelligence'!

    More and more convinced that those still labeling themselves republican, even though that no longer exists and hasn't for a couple of decades, are actually sub-consciously recognizing they're evolving backwards and their actions and speak point to just that!

    Vets On FLOTUS and SLOTUS, "Best - Ever": "We haven't had this kind of visibility from the White House—ever." Joyce Raezer - Dec. 30, 2011

    by jimstaro on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 04:56:41 AM PST

  •  Limiting violence in this society (4+ / 0-)

    Truly, there is no way we can do too much.  That should be the least of our concerns.  What we need to do at minimum is:

    Implement sensible gun controls that account for modern weapons of mass killing

    End the overseas wars

    End the drone wars

    End the phony war on drugs

    Invest more in our communities education and health

    "The real wealth of a nation consists of the contributions of its people and nature." -- Rianne Eisler

    by noofsh on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 05:03:50 AM PST

  •  I hope we go over the cliff. We need (3+ / 0-)
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    tb mare, ferg, bontemps2012

    more revenue folks.  

    President Obama, January 9, 2012: "Change is hard, but it is possible. I've Seen it. I've Lived it."

    by Drdemocrat on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 05:12:27 AM PST

    •  our political system needs a big slap in the face (6+ / 0-)

      actually it needs a lot more than that, but a jolt of some kind could be the first step in a much needed reset...the republicans are willfully ruining our country through their obstruction - they must be neutralized

      Coming Attraction: "Tea Party II - now with more stupid!"

      by memofromturner on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 05:29:19 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  "‘Come together’ breaks Washington apart" by (3+ / 0-)
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        DRo, marykk, ferg

        Ezra Klein about Starbucks’ scribbling of that slogan combined with his previous "Hey, America! Republicans want to raise your taxes" indicates to me that our "political system" is still, and likely to remain for some time, a zombie.

        Damn good point about the Starbuck's scribbling:

        But at the elite level — which encompasses everyone from CEOs to media professionals — there’s a desire to keep up good relations on both sides of the aisle. And so it’s safer, when things are going wrong, to offer an anodyne criticism that offends nobody — “both sides should come together!” — then to actually blame one side or the other. It’s a way to be angry about Washington’s failure without alienating anyone powerful. That goes doubly for commercial actors, like Starbucks, that need to sell coffee to both Republicans and Democrats.

        That breaks the system. It hurts the basic mechanism of accountability, which is the public’s ability to apportion blame. If one side’s intransigence will lead to both sides getting blamed, then it makes perfect sense to be intransigent: You’ll get all the benefits and only half the blame.

        And far too many are buying into the treaditional Republican tax cutting chants that it is they, not Democrats, that want to cut taxes now when:
        A truthful way of phrasing the fight over taxes is that Republicans are fighting to stop a sharp tax increase on a small number of rich people and the White House is fighting to stop a tax increase on most everyone else. Or to put it still more bluntly, Democrats want to raise taxes on the rich, Republicans want to raise them on the poor and the middle class.

        And it’s worth noting that, in this dimension of the negotiations, Republicans are winning. In his most recent offer, President Obama proposed keeping the Bush tax rates for normal income under $400,000, thus limiting the tax increase on the rich, but accepted the expiration of the payroll tax cut. So most Americans will indeed be getting a tax increase next year, and one Republicans fought for.

        Too much of the public is in zombie land, too flighty and distracted by shiny toys to really pay much attention, and a slap in the face may be too damn little or send the zombies off on another mindless chase.

        The only foes that threaten America are the enemies at home, and those are ignorance, superstition, and incompetence. [Elbert Hubbard]

        by pelagicray on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 05:52:28 AM PST

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        •  A "sharp increase" on taxes on the rich? (5+ / 0-)

          Since when is a 4.6% MARGINAL income tax hike a "sharp increase"  on someone in the to 2% of income earners?  Under a reversion to the Clinton tax rates, the biggest hit the 2% will incur will be to the rate paid on capital gains (up 5%) and dividends (taxed as regular income), which is where most of the true fat cats make their money anyway.

          "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

          by SueDe on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 06:25:08 AM PST

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    •  It's only a "cliff" because Boehner (0+ / 0-)

      will have to pay for another couple dozen greens fees this year.

      And he won't get an all-expenses-paid jaunt to Scotland.

      "We have done nothing to be ashamed of. We have nothing to apologize for." NRA 12/14/2012

      by bontemps2012 on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 02:08:38 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  AZ State Rep John Kavanagh, a gun nut, (3+ / 0-)
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    wishingwell, SueDe, bontemps2012

    asks at a local liberal blog, what are our proposals for gun control are.  When we respond....

    State Rep. John Kavanagh said...

    I sense a lot of hostility here in response to my simple question meant to understand the left's position, especially regarding serious mental illness and gun violence.
    Forget I ever asked and reached out for dialogue.
    Thank God you people don't like guns.
    http://www.blogforarizona.com/...

    This guy sponsored a bill that public buildings in AZ must be gun friendly, and also sponsored a bill right after Gabby Giffords was shot making the Colt Single Action Army Revolver as the official Arizona state firearm.  He's a former Port Authority Cop. He is one of the reasons AZ is so damn crazy.

    Research Shows Poverty Creates the Biggest Achievement Gap.

    by Desert Rose on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 05:45:17 AM PST

    •  Adopt Australia's National Firearm Agreement (1+ / 0-)
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      Desert Rose

      This was implemented from scratch in 1996. Gun deaths were cut by more than half.

      How Australia Eliminated Gun Massacres. A New Position for the Democratic Party

      There is also a petition at the White House site:

      Adopt Australia's gun laws which have eliminated 100% of gun massacres since adoption in 1996 with no effect on hunting

      Please sign it.

      Details, all of which are similar to feeding NRA a double dose of shit-pie.

      After 35 people, including small children, were killed in the Australian island State of Tasmania in April, 1996, the Australian Police Ministers Council agreed to a national plan for the regulation of firearms.  The Plan is known as the National Firearms Agreement and its terms include:

      •Banning military style automatic and semi-automatic firearms;
      •Limiting the availability of non-military style semi-automatic rifles and shotguns to primary producers, professional vermin exterminators, and a limited class of clay target firearm users;
      •Introducing registration for all firearms, including longarms;
      •Grouping firearms into 5 broad licensing categories;
      •Requiring all licence applicants to establish a genuine reason for firearms ownership;
      •Requiring all licence applicants other than those applying for category A firearms to establish that they have a special need for the particular category of firearm;
      •Requiring that permits be acquired for every new firearm purchase, with the issue of a permit to be subject to a waiting period of at least 28 days to enable appropriate checks to be made;
      •Stricter storage requirements for all firearms; and
      •Requiring all sales to be conducted by or through licensed firearms dealers.

      "We have done nothing to be ashamed of. We have nothing to apologize for." NRA 12/14/2012

      by bontemps2012 on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 02:32:26 PM PST

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  •  And again we forget about jobs? (4+ / 0-)
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    skillet, SueDe, mdmslle, DSPS owl

    After all, guns are more important now, right?

    I wonder, though - how many people are killed each year as the direct or indirect consequence of an economy that fails to provide a means to make a good and dignified living -- with hope for the future -- to millions of Americans?

    LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

    by dinotrac on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 05:50:11 AM PST

    •  I really think we are not forgetting about jobs (0+ / 0-)

      the Republicans however have amnesia on that topic if you look at all the House has been doing in that regard. But I see no indications on this blog or elsewhere that we on the left have forgotten about jobs.  

      Follow PA Keystone Liberals on Twitter: @KeystoneLibs

      by wishingwell on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 06:03:45 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  No -- Democrats forgot about jobs shortly after (0+ / 0-)

        the current administration took office.

        LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

        by dinotrac on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 06:06:17 AM PST

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        •  what proof are you offering that Democrats (0+ / 0-)

          forgot about jobs after the election?  We are working with a Lame Duck Congress at the moment.  Let us wait a little while and see what happens after the New Year and the inauguration and the new Congress and the SOTU address and so on.

          Follow PA Keystone Liberals on Twitter: @KeystoneLibs

          by wishingwell on Mon Dec 31, 2012 at 09:00:58 AM PST

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    •  No one in congress has any idea how (3+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      mdmslle, dinotrac, ferg

      to address job creation, and everything else is just distraction from that failing - including the "fiscal cliff."  The entire argument over tax hikes and spending cuts is just another way of avoiding the twin problems of jobs and wages.  How long has it been since anyone in D.C. has repeated the "jobs, jobs, jobs" mantra?  I haven't heard it since the 2010 election, after which it was totally abandoned in favor of abortion legislation.

      "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

      by SueDe on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 06:36:16 AM PST

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      •  Hard to argue with that. (0+ / 0-)

        This is where you see the big difference between Obama and a great President like FDR.

        FDR didn't know how to end the Great Depression, but he kept flinging things at the wall, over and over and over again.

        It mattered to him.

        LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

        by dinotrac on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 06:46:23 AM PST

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        •  The only Republicans FDR had to deal with (0+ / 0-)

          were on SCOTUS.

          FDR got to spend money. Then 1937 came along and he stopped, killing the recovery.

          Read any history of the Great Depression.

          "We have done nothing to be ashamed of. We have nothing to apologize for." NRA 12/14/2012

          by bontemps2012 on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 02:36:31 PM PST

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  •  Tea Party Express lady on Chris Hayes right now... (3+ / 0-)
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    wishingwell, tb mare, bontemps2012

    sounding like an idiot.

    •  'Repeal Obamacare!!' (2+ / 0-)
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      tb mare, bontemps2012
      •  Result............. a split GOP. (0+ / 0-)

        1. The John Birch Society / Tea Party "Base"

        2. Business interests who want a functioning government

        Can't have both. Not in one political party.

        Same time they are handicapped, dragging Boehner along like a gimp leg. That dumb-ass can't count votes in his own caucus.

        Who in banking or a big business would choose Boehner and the GOPers over Obama/Reid/Pelosi ?????

        Back the Democrats and they get a stable, growing economy.

        "We have done nothing to be ashamed of. We have nothing to apologize for." NRA 12/14/2012

        by bontemps2012 on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 02:48:02 PM PST

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  •  Was listening to NPR yesterday (0+ / 0-)

    And I noted someone was clamoring that the damage from the fiscal cliff was already done. January wasn't a true deadline in their view. They claimed that those businesses and people that would be affected had already reacted out of fear and adjusted their investments. I find it interesting when they put it that way. Because if that's true, why hasn't the sky fallen already? Or the power stopped running? Or maybe even the streets would suddenly become "unpaved" overnight.

    The fact is that yes, fear may have driven some to protect themselves and good for them I suppose. But everything has a cost whether it's lost revenue because they reacted to something that won't happen. Or cost in fees due to their short term changes. The money still changes hands and so far the lights are still on.

    I find it also telling that the same person that was citing the "fear" in political acts (lack there of) from Congress was nothing to the media stories like this one that simply extrapolated the fear to untold heights. The real business people that have weathered things like this before should know that whatever comes will come, and most likely what you were told isn't exactly what will occur. So why worry until it's done?

    "I think it's the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately." -- George Carlin, Satirical Comic,(1937-2008)

    by Wynter on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 06:01:31 AM PST

  •  Grand Old Party of the Rich (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Pam from Calif

    The GOP is protecting the wealthiest people on the planet while letting the rest of the country suffer for no reason.The Republican Party is out of touch with the needs of ordinary Americans, and out of touch with reality. How can anyone not understand that the entire Republican agenda, from Capitol Hill to the red states of this great nation, is based almost solely on protecting their own radical fringe and billionaires at the expense of working people and ordinary Americans? We are witnessing incompetence on a grand scale with the ridiculous antics of House Republicans prepared to send the nation off the fiscal cliff just to save trillion dollar tax cuts for the top 0.001 percent of the country.    -  progressive

  •  The tax cuts were ridiculous (2+ / 0-)
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    Mark Sumner, bontemps2012

    Before Boosh cut the tax rates, I had our income withholding all figured out, to the point where we either owed about $100 to the IRS or we got $100 back--that's about as good as it gets.

    After the the Boosh cuts went into effect we started getting ridiculous refunds.  At first I thought about changing the withholding again but then I decided not to:  why go through such a painful exercise every year?  The tax code seems to change every year, and I'm not about to spend many, many painful hours on the telephone trying to change three different sets of income streams.  So I just said to hell with it.

    If we start paying normal rates again, that's fine with me.

    "Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

    by Diana in NoVa on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 06:19:51 AM PST

    •  the ridiculous refunds... (1+ / 0-)
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      Diana in NoVa

      One thing that makes the refunds so ridiculous is that they help only those who are employed and thus need a bit less help.  

      The "job creators" certainly did not use the extra money they received via tax cuts to create jobs, and while many of the employed did spend the extra money, it didn't create enough demand for businesses to hire more people.  In fact, many businesses continued to lay off more and more people from 2001/2003 onward, sometimes shifting the lost jobs overseas, sometimes demanding more of those who were still employed and sometimes converting remaining jobs to part-time, without benefits.  And many businesses stopped providing benefits even if they kept staff at pre-tax cut levels.  

      The overall effect was that the better off one was prior to the tax cuts, the better off one was after the tax cuts.  The worse off one was before the tax cuts, the worse off one was after.  

      And the nation, as a whole, lost out as well, with too little revenue to support even reduced (though still essential) services.  

      Mr. Bush earned a special spot in Hell for his chicanery.

  •  Important article: Austerity fail in UK (3+ / 0-)

    This morning's Boston Globe has a good article (not exactly punditry) in the business section entitled "Britain's austerity cutbacks a cautionary tale for US." It should be required reading for everyone who's advocating cuts cuts cuts as the pathway to economic growth, though the UK politicians still think it will work in the long run. (They appeal to Thatcherism like US Republicans do Reaganism.)

  •  Tea Party: Experiments in herding cats. (0+ / 0-)

    Pavlov taught a dog to drool at the sound of a ringing bell. Corporatist oligarchs tried to replicate this with cats.  It worked --- for a while --- but in the end, we can still say that "cats is cats...."

    I count even the single grain of sand to be a higher life-form than the likes of Sarah Palin and her odious ilk.

    by Liberal Panzer on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 06:34:22 AM PST

  •  David Brooks on NBC..The GOP are acting like fools (0+ / 0-)

    ...and it's all Obama's fault.

  •  There's buzz that Hagel will be the DOD pick (0+ / 0-)

    Chuck Hagel for Defense Secretary

    by Paleo on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 07:26:32 AM PST

  •  2014. (0+ / 0-)

    I know everyone, even on Dkos, is tired and supposedly only the political consultant and punditry industry is talking about the midterms, but it's time to really start thinking about turnout.
    If we build on the 2012 turnout and make sure that we not only do not repeat 2010, but create an anti-2010, then that will truly eviscerate slap-chop the gop and especially the tea party for another 20 years.

    We need to keep kicking their ass without restraint until they give us nonpartisan redistricting, an end to citizens united, a wall between Wall Street and Washington, etc.

    You can't make this stuff up.

    by David54 on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 08:03:47 AM PST

  •  Pundits, "Examiner" isn't a real news org (0+ / 0-)

    That chubby guy on examiner.com critiquing Nate Silver's predictions wasn't a "columnist" for a "chain", he's just a guy with a blog on a website that hosts blogs.

  •  Bearing Arms (0+ / 0-)

    An arguement is made that the 2nd Amendment's purpose is to arm the citizens in order to be able to push back against a tyrannical government. The government has access to some pretty powerful and sofisticated weaponry that could easily subdue anyone with small arms. Do individuals have the right to possess the same kinds of arms that a potential tyrannical government has at their disposal? If not, does the 2nd amendment offer all of the protections its "true believers" claim it does?

    Cogito ergo sum.

    by glb3 on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 09:25:14 AM PST

  •  Idiot Brooks--do you think this is an insult? (0+ / 0-)

    " "But if I had to fault President Obama, I would say that sometimes he governs like a visitor from a morally superior civilization."

    YES, he's morally superior! Is that something bad? The amoral duplicity of the Republicans is so obvious.

    What's wrong with civic morality, Brooks? And why do you feel it is OK to accuse the president of being "too moral?"

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