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Sadly, Boehner may already be more liberal than most of the dung beetles in congress, but that is beside the point.  There might be an opportunity for a congressional coup and I say that us, Democrats, should attempt it.

Traditionally, major parties nominate their guy and whoever is in the majority wins.  But there are loopholes available.  In 2004 the Montana Legislature had a slight Democratic majority, but instead of a liberal Missoulian ascending to the Speaker position, a conservative Democrat from Miles City was nominated by the Republicans and he carried the day.  So though I love Nancy Pelosi, I nominate...  

Jeff Fortenberry (R-Nebraska)

Jeff carries a 50.2 liberal rating and a 49.8 conservative rating.  http://www.nationaljournal.com/...

I don't know Jeff, I simply googled this info.  But my point is as follows.  Nominate a centrist Republican and let the Republicans sweat about it.  Democrats agree to vote for the centrist Republican and maybe he can carry 26ish Republicans to carry the day.  Just an idea, whattaya think?

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  •  Fine. (3+ / 0-)
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    HugoDog, gffish, Lujane

    But we should be sure that our GOP nominee has some accordance with our cause. How about a litmus test. Let's nominate a GOP representative who voted yes on Obamacare.

    Oh, there wasn't one? Not even one?!

    Nevermind!

    it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses

    by Addison on Wed Jan 02, 2013 at 02:56:49 PM PST

  •  Nah, I'd rather have a crazy than a Broderite (4+ / 0-)
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    DeadHead, NewDealer, gffish, Lujane

    Crazy discredits itself over time, but Broderism never does. And that's not because it's right.

    You know, I sometimes think if I could see, I'd be kicking a lot of ass. -Stevie Wonder at the Glastonbury Festival, 2010

    by Rich in PA on Wed Jan 02, 2013 at 02:58:14 PM PST

  •  Won't work (1+ / 0-)
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    Lujane

    What Republican would vote for a more liberal speaker than Boehner? Pretty much no one. They would be primaried immediately.

    If you really wanted to go this route, you'd need to nominate a more conservative speaker, with the thought that he'd owe allegiance to the teabaggers, yes, but also to Democrats.

    I don't think that's a smart road to go down, though.

    matthewborgard.com ~ @MatthewBorgard

    by zegota on Wed Jan 02, 2013 at 03:01:45 PM PST

  •  Check out this Diary by Seneca Doane (1+ / 0-)
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    Lujane

    With lots of details about who might be the best pick in this scenario.

    It a big long shot to be sure. But a move like this might break the log jam in congress.

    http://www.dailykos.com/...  

    .....it's on the table, under the watermelon she demurred. Thanks, I was planning on shaving anyway he replied.

    by pdx kirk on Wed Jan 02, 2013 at 03:05:12 PM PST

  •  Senaca Doane Made This Suggestion (2+ / 0-)
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    pdx kirk, Lujane

    And I support it. Since he ran for Congress (and lost in a heavy red district) he knows a few of the players.

    Senaca Doana's diary is here.

    The Democrats create jobs. The Republicans create recessions.

    by Tuba Les on Wed Jan 02, 2013 at 03:09:59 PM PST

  •  I'd say, just have the Dems vote for Boehner (1+ / 0-)
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    gffish

    He's been doing a fabulous job of trashing the GOP brand. The baggers hate him. He'd have to get off his high horse and start building a coalition in order not to have humiliating episodes like this past couple of weeks.

    I think our best shot is more of the same, please.

    I am progressive. I am liberal. I make no apologies. - Kos

    My political compass: - 8.38,-6.97

    by pucklady on Wed Jan 02, 2013 at 03:16:01 PM PST

  •  there are no liberal republicans anymore (5+ / 0-)

    hell, there aren't any moderate republicans left, outside of the democratic party. all that's left are conservative republicans, tea party republicans, and far right republicans.

    •  Amen (1+ / 0-)
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      Lujane

      Even the guy suggested is virulently anti-choice, a deal breaker in my view.  Not worth the effort.  Would rather we voted for a Joe Walsh or that type just to make Republicans even worse off than they are.

  •  There's no such thing like unicorns don't exist (1+ / 0-)
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    Andrew C White
  •  Anyone that term might have applied to (2+ / 0-)
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    HappyinNM, Andrew C White

    has long since either

    a) passed on

    b) become a Democrat or

    c) retired from public office

    or some combination of the above. Hell, if Richard Nixon were still around and in the House, he'd come across as extreme left-wing (for a Republican) and none of his peers would vote for him.

    Sorry; from where I sit, the remaining options all come down to right wing, certifiable, or worse. Our best bet is to try to get the House back in 2014.

  •  and I'd offer to let anyone who votes for him (2+ / 0-)
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    pdx kirk, Lujane

    caucus with the Dems - not give up their party affiliation, just help form a working coalition for a few years.

    The draw to them would be twofold - 1) a disproportional amount of power in what gets done, and 2) a huge draw when they run as republicans able to compromise and get things done in a disfunctional Washington.

    win/win all around

    great idea

    •  This is actually more of a "King for a year" (1+ / 0-)
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      Lujane

      scenario.

      For two years, they'd have a lot of leverage.  But as sure as the sun will rise, they'll be primaried and almost certainly beaten.   "bipartisan" as a brand only helps in the general election, where nearly all of these people are immune to losing, just by virtue of an "R" next to their name.

      Also forget about a cush lobbying job offer after they're out of office.

      So it is more like the legend where a tribe designates someone as the sacrifice at the end of the year, but they have every want fulfilled for the year before the sacrifice.

      •  with congress' approval rating as low as it is, (2+ / 0-)
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        pdx kirk, Lujane

        I'm not convinced a primary loss is inevitable for someone who can break through the gridlock.

        but you are probably right

        •  The primary threat is very potent (0+ / 0-)

          Essentially the club-for-growth type power brokers set up a new guy, spend plenty to get him name recognition and to lower the favorables of the incumbent and do their best to starve the incumbent of funds, so he can't define the new guy with negative ads.

          Primaries seem to have a high percentage of easily persuaded, ideologically puritan voters.  Someone who actually has a voting record is at a disadvantage when competing on ideological purity with somebody who has never been in office.

          The reason the Rs are getting more and more right wing, in a trend that has been consistent since the late 70s is that primary pressure works.  Weak incumbents will knuckle under just to the threat, and those who try to govern get beaten often enough to really scare the rest.

          Only in districts where the general election is competitive does this behavior hurt the Republicans.  So far national offices like senate and president still punish wingnuts who push establishment types out in the primaries (not always though...see Rand Paul).   In congressional districts and in a lot of legislatures though, it is a very serious and credible threat.

  •  The Speaker doesn't even need to be a member (2+ / 0-)
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    gffish, pdx kirk

    of Congress. Ornstein suggested Jon Huntsman for the role

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/...

    to try and solve the problem in the House

    "I'm sculpting now. Landscapes mostly." ~ Yogi Bear

    by eXtina on Wed Jan 02, 2013 at 03:58:03 PM PST

  •  Aren't there any independents? (1+ / 0-)
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    pdx kirk

    Isn't there an independent Congressperson? What would happen if all the Democrats all voted for an independent and the Boehner-haters voted for someone who could actually run an organized House?

    •  Bernie Sanders (0+ / 0-)

      is an independent. Both when he was in the House and now when he's in the Senate. A Democratic Socialist Independent.

      I'd love to see him as Speaker of the House.

      “If you misspell some words, it’s not plagiarism.” – Some Writer

      by Dbug on Wed Jan 02, 2013 at 06:41:16 PM PST

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  •  funny you should mention this... (1+ / 0-)
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    pdx kirk

    ...because...was just wondering to myself when the last time was that there was an actual, real contested election for Speaker of the House.

    Will have to do some research.

    However...it sure would be great to see all of those folks Boehner's pissed off lately withhold their votes or give them to someone else...denying him a majority.

    Am not sure there is any such thing as a liberal Republican left in the House (or the Senate).

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