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  •  soo, umm, new thing I learned today (3+ / 0-)
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    citizenx, whaddaya, BlackSheep1

    The fiscal cliff deal cut Obamacare in a big way (barring money for 1/2 of the states for those health care co-ops that were supposed to be what we got instead of the public option). Link.

    JesseCW's earlier comment on it

    jeeze, it's always the fine print, huh?

  •  I am still angry (5+ / 0-)

    Over Teahaddist Congressman Andy Harris voting against federal aid to Sandy victims, when more than a few of his constituents  - the ones in Crisfield and Ocean City and not the Koch Brothers - desparately need this aid to rebuild.  Is there a way we can expel him from Maryland?

    "We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals, now we know that it is bad economics." Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Jan. 20, 1937

    by Navy Vet Terp on Sat Jan 05, 2013 at 03:11:28 PM PST

    •  Stay angry until 2014. (4+ / 0-)

      No, that's bad advice. Mark your calendar to get angry again in Summer of 2014.

      "The marriage fight is over when we say it's over, and it's over when we win."—Dan Savage

      by Scott Wooledge on Sat Jan 05, 2013 at 03:29:10 PM PST

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      •  I'm not so sure about that (5+ / 0-)

        To counter the inevitable flood of money that'll hit in 2014 Congressional campaigns I think we're going to have to start laying down strategy NOW. And that may include getting good candidates out in front of the voters on issues like jobs, health care, and other important issues. If we've got a solid ground game in place before the astroturf efforts show up we can beat them. Shorter version -- the 2014 campaign has already started.

        What's wrong with America? I'll tell you. Everything Romney said was pre-chewed wads of cud from Republicans from the last 30 years and yet he managed thru a combination of racism and selling the (false) hope of riches to get 47% of the national vote.

        by ontheleftcoast on Sat Jan 05, 2013 at 03:32:23 PM PST

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        •  Agreed. (3+ / 0-)
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          citizenx, ontheleftcoast, whaddaya

          But, organizing doesn't require being angry. Two years of rage is bad for one's health.

          "The marriage fight is over when we say it's over, and it's over when we win."—Dan Savage

          by Scott Wooledge on Sat Jan 05, 2013 at 03:40:36 PM PST

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        •  Athough I do wonder if... (1+ / 0-)
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          ontheleftcoast

          Karl Rove basically pissing away $200M of big donors money may dispirit the high rollers in 2014 from cutting as many and as big checks as they did in 2012.

          "The marriage fight is over when we say it's over, and it's over when we win."—Dan Savage

          by Scott Wooledge on Sat Jan 05, 2013 at 03:43:23 PM PST

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          •  He pissed money away on the presidential (0+ / 0-)

            campaign but look at what he kept. A party of 150 Birchers in control of half of Congress. By all rights a compelling win of 5% in the big race should've gotten us a much better result in the House. Yes, gerrymandering had an effect, but so did their money. And look at state houses and governorships as well. They might get smarter about the money they spend but make no mistake -- they're going to spend and spend big in 2014. Your mileage and opinion may vary.

            What's wrong with America? I'll tell you. Everything Romney said was pre-chewed wads of cud from Republicans from the last 30 years and yet he managed thru a combination of racism and selling the (false) hope of riches to get 47% of the national vote.

            by ontheleftcoast on Sat Jan 05, 2013 at 03:46:02 PM PST

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            •  He had a terrible return on his investment (1+ / 0-)
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              ontheleftcoast

              as did all the SuperPacs.

              Many donors know as well as we do that gerrymandering is the reason that House stayed red, not big money spending. The huge investments in president and other key races really didn't pay off.

              It depends on how empirical and logical donors are and how driven they are my blind allegiance to ideology. There may not be a blanket answer to that for every donor.

              "The marriage fight is over when we say it's over, and it's over when we win."—Dan Savage

              by Scott Wooledge on Sat Jan 05, 2013 at 03:53:21 PM PST

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              •  Hopefully posting this to the right thread... (2+ / 0-)
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                Scott Wooledge, mike101

                One of our financially astute Kossacks should look back on the gains/losses for the wealthy a year from now and compute the ROI on their donations. Sadly, I'll bet they still get one. Another thing to consider is even if they didn't get one this time do they expect one in the future? Really big players don't worry about individual wins/losses they consider the expected value of an action. Whether you're playing high stakes in blackjack, the stock market, or politics it's about what you might win more than what you did win. And these folks are playing for the highest of stakes. I might have to break out the calculus and (attempt to) teach Kossacks about utility functions and such. Once you realize they're playing a different game then we are it changes your outlook on their actions.

                What's wrong with America? I'll tell you. Everything Romney said was pre-chewed wads of cud from Republicans from the last 30 years and yet he managed thru a combination of racism and selling the (false) hope of riches to get 47% of the national vote.

                by ontheleftcoast on Sat Jan 05, 2013 at 04:02:38 PM PST

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  •   Louie Gohmert (R-TX) shares more ignorance (1+ / 0-)
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    a2nite
    GOP dissension over debt-ceiling strategy

    On Friday, a top Senate Republican signaled that members of his party should be prepared to play hardball and be willing to accept the kind of consequences in each previous fight they’ve threatened but managed to avoid.

    Some Republicans on Capitol Hill are similarly hesitant to entertain the possibility of using a government shutdown or the debt ceiling as bargaining chips.

    Electing people who don't believe in government to Congress, is like installing an atheist as pastor of a church. If they don't believe in the institution or its goals, they won't care if it does a good job for its members.

    by Lefty Coaster on Sat Jan 05, 2013 at 03:12:03 PM PST

    •  Oops wrong title line (0+ / 0-)

      Electing people who don't believe in government to Congress, is like installing an atheist as pastor of a church. If they don't believe in the institution or its goals, they won't care if it does a good job for its members.

      by Lefty Coaster on Sat Jan 05, 2013 at 03:12:28 PM PST

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  •  Looking forward to those topics! (0+ / 0-)

    This is an open thread, right? Well I have one thing to get off my chest.

     I know this guy who has sort of a postmodernist outlook on life, for lack of a better description, and he questioned my use of the terms "general public" and "status quo". When I used such terms in one of our discussion, he would reply with "If there is a general public" or "If there is a status quo". Minor though it may be, it irritates me no less.

     What makes it worse is he has an infatuation with Machiavelli. He tries to be cryptic and overly PC too.

     What do you think, good people of DailyKos?

  •  Just think how much worse things could be (1+ / 0-)
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    if the Dems didn't control the Presidency and the Senate.

    Isn't it amazing how powerful the GOP is when it has control of the House but not the Senate or Presidency?

    But just you wait!  When the Dems control the Presidency, Senate, and House - as they did not so long ago - there will be an avalanche of progressive legislation.  

    I can picture it now:

    -- No more Patriot Act

    -- No more legalized spying / retroactive immunity

    -- No more torture

    -- No more increasing the War On Terror

    -- No more Free Trade Job Off-shoring

    -- No more Tax Cuts for the wealthy

    -- No more filibuster

    ----------------------

    And that's just for starters.

    Some may disagree with me on the filibuster being eliminated by a simple Democratic Majority in the Senate.. but let me remind you:

    Remember all those right-wing judges Bush tried to appoint and thanks to the Dem filibuster he was unable to do so?

    Neither do I.  Because it didn't happen.  The filibuster is a stage prop in the Kabuki Theater of the Absurd used as a shield to deflect blame and excuse away any "failures" to pass progressive legislation.  Failures in "" because from the Dem Leadership perspective, it's a roaring success.

    The excuses for Obama's behavior have long since passed the point of predictability neccessary to qualify as an absurd production of Kabuki Theater.

    by Johnathan Ivan on Sat Jan 05, 2013 at 03:13:40 PM PST

  •  Serious Question: (1+ / 0-)
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    citizenx

    Since Obama himself has advocated for the changes in Social Security and "savings" in Medicare... along with publicly stating Corporate Taxes are Too High...

    Can we still blame the GOP for any deals which advance those goals?  Or should Obama - as leader of the party - have some accountability for advancing those policies, since he has publicly championed them?

    The excuses for Obama's behavior have long since passed the point of predictability neccessary to qualify as an absurd production of Kabuki Theater.

    by Johnathan Ivan on Sat Jan 05, 2013 at 03:18:34 PM PST

    •  Here is as serious an answer as I can give (0+ / 0-)

      Wait and see what happens.

      All I can do is look at history.

      Do democrats spit every time that Tip O'Neill's name is mentioned? He destroyed Social Security far more than President Obama ever dreamed of and look at his legacy?

      Is Clinton's name a cuss word for destroying the safety net with welfare reform?

      •  I wasn't aware of the part regarding (0+ / 0-)

        Tip O'Neil.. certainly I'm aware of what Bill Clinton's real accomplishments were.  Not to mention NAFTA, killing Glass-Steagal...

        Would you mind providing me some info on Tip vis-a-vis Social Security?  I'm ignorant on that front and appreciate any quick synopsis you could provide.

        The excuses for Obama's behavior have long since passed the point of predictability neccessary to qualify as an absurd production of Kabuki Theater.

        by Johnathan Ivan on Sun Jan 06, 2013 at 08:06:42 AM PST

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  •  Tomorrow is a good day to sleep in or go to church (4+ / 0-)
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    jeopardydd, Scott Wooledge, Phil S 33, DRo
    Meet the Press on NBC

    • Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.)

    • Former Sen. Alan Simpson (R-Wyo.), co-founder, Campaign to Fix the Debt, co-chairman, National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform

    Erskine Bowles, co-founder, Campaign to Fix the Debt; co-chairman, National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform

    • Sen. Angus King (I-Maine)

    • Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.)

    • Rep. Xavier Becerra (D-Calif.)

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/...

    Disgusting
    •  MTP I don't even record anymore (1+ / 0-)
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      citizenx

      Gregory stacks the show with so many conservatives and pitches them so many softballs it's become useless for anything but just checking in with what the Village idiots are babbling about.

      "The marriage fight is over when we say it's over, and it's over when we win."—Dan Savage

      by Scott Wooledge on Sat Jan 05, 2013 at 03:31:47 PM PST

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    •  Guess no one is really interested in the views (2+ / 0-)
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      citizenx, Scott Wooledge

      of any of the newly elected women in the House and/or Senate.  Sunday morning teevee is killing itself off after Chris Hayes bows out at 10 a.m.  It stays off at our place and we go to a movie, the library, hit the coffee shops to meet and greet, or just lounge about reading the NYT, diaries here, or, lordy,lordy, a book.  
      The BBC and perhaps Al Jazeera, when they come onboard later this year, will be the successful news venues because the old ones are becoming parodies of themselves.

      Building a better America with activism, cooperation, ingenuity and snacks.

      by judyms9 on Sat Jan 05, 2013 at 03:37:46 PM PST

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  •  At least Biden and his group are working on tough (1+ / 0-)
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    citizenx

    legislation to battle the gun nuts-late WaPo article just out

    I wrote a brief story earlier on another shooting today in Aurora--4 dead

  •  totally ot, whatever that is, but has everyone (0+ / 0-)

    signed danny glover's petition to nominate paul krugman as sec. of treasury?

    pass it on!

    http://signon.org/...

    i know, i know, but a girl can dream...

    there's also a petition at the white house site, but i haven't found it yet...

    HAPPY NEW BAKTUN EVERYBODY !!! (-9.75 / -9.05)

    by doesnotworkorplaywellwithothers on Sat Jan 05, 2013 at 03:54:38 PM PST

  •  somebody help me out with the ICE law in play (1+ / 0-)
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    annieli

    in this story, which currently seems to me just to be stupid cruelty:

    Mexico couple not allowed to see dying daughter
    Associated Press
    Posted:   01/05/2013 03:25:29 PM MST

    GALVESTON, Texas (AP) - U.S. officials have denied a Mexico couple's third and final attempt to obtain permission for humanitarian reasons to visit their dying daughter in Texas.

    Maria Sanchez has an inoperable tumor on her spine and is being cared for by her husband in their Houston apartment. She hasn't seen her parents in nine years.

    A Customs and Border Protection spokesman says humanitarian parole cannot be used to circumvent the normal visa-issue procedures.

    She's housebound, and according to another Texas paper her dad was deported 13 years ago for being in the US illegally.
    Luis Aguillon, poses with daughter, Melissa Aguillon, 4, and his wife, Maria Sanchez, who is dying of an inoperable tumor on her spine shown in their home Saturday, Dec. 8, 2012, in Houston. The tumor is not cancerous, but it is growing fast and so close to her spine that doctors can't operate. She needs constant care so Aguillon cannot work. Luis is trying to make an arrangements so he can return to work as a welder. His wife was kicked out of UTMB in 2011 shortly before a scheduled surgery that could have saved her life because she is in the country illegally, although her husband has a green card and is on the verge of achieving citizenship. The family moved from Galveston to Houston so she could get care at Ben Taub, but it was too late. All they can do is minimize the pain as she dies.
    Photo: Melissa Phillip, Houston Chronicle / © 2012 Houston Chronicle

    Read more: http://www.mysanantonio.com/...

    UTMB is a state-university teaching hospital.
    The Texas lege thinks that immigration status trumps medical care.
    It's oftener and oftener I'm ashamed to admit those cretins rule my home state; they do not in any way shape manner form or fashion represent me.

    LBJ, Lady Bird, Anne Richards, Barbara Jordan, Sully Sullenberger, Ike, Drew Brees, Molly Ivins --Texas is no Bush league! -7.50,-5.59

    by BlackSheep1 on Sat Jan 05, 2013 at 04:12:43 PM PST

  •  Church beats State: UConn loses to Notre Dame /nt (0+ / 0-)

    yksitoista ulotteinen presidentin shakki. / tappaa kaikki natsit "Nous sommes un groupuscule" (-9.50; -7.03) 政治委员, 政委‽ Warning - some snark above ‽

    by annieli on Sat Jan 05, 2013 at 04:50:27 PM PST

  •  naomi wolf on zero dark thirty (0+ / 0-)

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/...

    in interviews, you insist that it is a mixture of fact and fiction, "part documentary". "Real", "true", and even "documentary", are big and important words. By claiming such terms, you generate media and sales traction – on a mendacious basis. There are filmmakers who work very hard to produce films that are actually "based on real events"
    Like Riefenstahl, you are a great artist. But now you will be remembered forever as torture's handmaiden.

    "Your victory has demonstrated that no person anywhere in the world should not dare to dream of wanting to change the world for a better place." -- Mandela

    by agoldnyc on Sat Jan 05, 2013 at 05:28:57 PM PST

  •  will the group redacted here be prosecuted (0+ / 0-)

    yksitoista ulotteinen presidentin shakki. / tappaa kaikki natsit "Nous sommes un groupuscule" (-9.50; -7.03) 政治委员, 政委‽ Warning - some snark above ‽

    by annieli on Sat Jan 05, 2013 at 06:29:07 PM PST

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