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Right now there is no incentive for the firearm industry to support policies that could lower the firearm injury/death rate. Basically, the more firearms they can sell the more profit they will make, no matter what its impact on the firearm injury/ death rate. The U.S. firearm injury/death rate is significantly higher than any other comparable developed country. The U.S. firearm death/injury rate is approximately 10.2/100,000 people per year. That is more than 100% higher than Canada's rate which is about 4.8/100,000 people per year. Though the firearm industry makes about $1 billion in profits per year, it is estimated the health care costs from firearm deaths and injuries total about $40 billion/year. No doubt a significant amount of the healthcare costs are paid by our  tax dollars via medicaid and medicare. Therefore I ask you to go to the following white house link

white house petition link

to sign the petition that requests that the white house looks into imposing a tax on firearms that is proportional to the firearm death/injury rate. That would  give an incentive to the firearm industry to support policies that reduce the firearm death/injury rate. The proceeds from this tax can be used to defray the health care costs associated with firearm injuries.

Hopefully we can work together to try to lower the U.S. firearm death/injury rate.

Originally posted to clinical12 on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 09:26 PM PST.

Also republished by Repeal or Amend the Second Amendment (RASA) and Shut Down the NRA.

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  •  White House web site is down right now. Or I (1+ / 0-)
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    would sign.  That's all I feel like doing is signing petitions.

    There's inertia going on here big time.  Everyone is stroking their beards and saying nothing is going to work and all is lost.  

    We will snap out of it, or not.  Who knows.  I will try to get back and sign your petition.  I have been asking for almost a month on mine and have 21 signatures. WOW.  It always takes so long for them to catch up with me.

  •  PS you might want to take away the all caps from (1+ / 0-)
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    your title.  Just say what it is.

    Please sign my WH petition for a Tax on Firearms.

  •  Does the US firearms industry (0+ / 0-)

    export to Canada?  If so there is an issue with your argument.

    "In Japan, American occupation forces quickly became 50,000 friends. In Iraq, they would quickly become 50,000 terrorist targets. " James Webb, Sep 02

    by ParaHammer on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 11:20:28 PM PST

  •  Firearms Tax (1+ / 0-)
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    More people are murdered every year by hammer and baseball bats than by rifles.

    If we're really interested in dealing with the violence, we need to deal with human nature, not guns.

    We also need to be liberal enough to realise that people have a natural right to defend themselves from violence. We also have to be emotionally mature enough to trust every individual enough to allow them to determine how best to do that without imposing our personal preferences on that person.

    We also have to get away from the insecure idea that everyone who owns a gun is a criminal. There are many who simply like to target shoot, hunt, or collect firearms. Most of these people would gladly help defend you if you were threatened. They are not dangerous maniacs.

    So, we sanely need to look at why James Holmes, the fellow at Virginia Tech and Adam Lanza went on their violent sprees. Most likely it was the fact that these fellows were on psychiatric drugs, like drugs for ADHD (like Conerta), anti-psychotics, steroidal drugs, or anti-depressants. These drugs increase feelings of violence in the persons taking them.

    If we want to end the violent impulses of our young men, we need to stop doping them up.

    •  Not so fast (5+ / 0-)


      More people are murdered every year by hammer and baseball bats than by rifles.
      is pure unadulterated BS.   How is it that you compare one category of firearms to combining a dozen other categories of weapons and think that it makes for a fair analogy?

      Here's the real #s for 2011 from the FBI's Murder Circumstances by Weapon

      FBI Crime Stats 2011

      Found this quote at Democratic Underground as a means to stop this false meme.

      In America in 2011, 8583 people were murdered by one type of weapon, guns (an additional 18,000 + committed suicide with firearms). Less than half that amount, 4,081 were killed by every other weapon known to man including knives, blunt objects, poison, fire, pushing out a window, cars, hands, explosions, drowning, narcotics, strangulation, asphyxiation and the mysterious "other" category.

      The truth is, the probability of being murdered by a gun in America is double that of being killed by any other weapon or method available to humankind...combined.

      Not to mention your final suggestion that medications should not be given to those who can be helped by them is beyond surreal.
      If we want to end the violent impulses of our young men, we need to stop doping them up.
      Care to expound upon that line of thought?

      Life on two wheels is life in balance

      by YaNevaNo on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 04:11:47 AM PST

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  •  I'd support a tax (1+ / 0-)
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    the proceeds of which would be used to assure that anyone who wanted to could be armed.

  •  How many more must die before we do something? (2+ / 0-)
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    88kathy, Hockeyray

    A tax is a great idea to start paying for the steep costs of this "right."

    Then they came for me - and by that time there was nobody left to speak up.

    by DefendOurConstitution on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 04:04:53 AM PST

  •  This is OUTRAGEOUS! You mean you expect those (3+ / 0-)
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    YaNevaNo, 88kathy, Hockeyray

    who benefit from this "right" to pay for the societal cost that we incur because of it?  What is next, actually expecting a gun owner to be responsible for crimes/deaths committed with their firearms?  Oh the horror!


    Then they came for me - and by that time there was nobody left to speak up.

    by DefendOurConstitution on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 04:56:18 AM PST

  •  clinical 12 - there could be some Heller issues (2+ / 0-)
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    When the White House releases its suggestions for new gun control legislation I don't think you will see any industry specific, significant taxes or fees on guns or ammunition. Under Heller governments at all levels have broad latitude to impose gun control laws, however the new rules must take into account the individual right to own guns. While many here at DKOS don't believe Heller was correctly decided, it is the law of the land. Given that gun ownership is a constitutional right, government can't impose taxes or fees to the extent that it makes it difficult for poor people to purchase and keep guns. When governments use cost to inhibit constitutional rights they will be struck down by the courts using the old poll tax cases as a basis.

    "let's talk about that"

    by VClib on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 06:46:15 AM PST

  •  once again, I cannot nor will not support (0+ / 0-)

    any sort of regressive taxation scheme that can disenfranchise the poor from exercising their (at the moment) Constitutionally guaranteed rights.

    This is right-wing strategy 101.

    What would you say if they wanted to put a surcharge on abortions?  Or require to purchase a government ID for voting?

    I see a very beautiful planet that seems very inviting and peaceful. Unfortunately, it is not.…We're better than this. We must do better. Cmdr Scott Kelley

    by wretchedhive on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 07:34:47 AM PST

  •  Tax on Ammunition Too (0+ / 0-)

    I love the idea of the tax rate on guns being proportional to the injury/death rate. But guns are only bought once and stay bought. Bullets have to be bought repeatedly.

    I once was assigned, in a debate class, to argue against gun control. I didn't know how to do it ethically until I figured out I could argue for bullet control instead. My argument was, "Guns don't kill people. Bullets do." Of course, it would have been more accurate to say people kill people using guns and bullets, but it wouldn't have had the same rhetorical piquancy. But taxing guns AND bullets makes more sense.

    Another useful device might be to require an annual fee in order to hold a gun permit, and to index that fee as well to the gun injury/murder rate.

    Every relationship of domination, exploitation, or oppression is by definition violent. Dominator and dominated alike are reduced to things - the former dehumanized by an excess of power, the latter by a lack of it. And things cannot love.-Paulo Freire

    by samdiener on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 09:01:28 AM PST

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