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Originally posted to Daily Kos on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 03:00 PM PST.

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  •  Here's a plan for the NRA and its HQ (8+ / 0-)
    Declare the NRA a terrorist organization and make membership illegal. Hey! We did it to the Communist Party, and the NRA has led to the deaths of more of us than American Commies ever did. (I would also raze the organization’s headquarters, clear the rubble and salt the earth, but that’s optional.) link
  •  Awww...look at all those lovely windows. (1+ / 0-)
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    drmah

    And after all, you know what they say about "glass houses...."

    Proponents of gun violence own guns. Opponents of gun violence do not own guns. What part of this do you not understand?

    by Liberal Panzer on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 03:25:44 PM PST

    •  Good observation. One local gun-whoohaaa man in (0+ / 0-)

      this community suggests boarding up all the windows in the school to booost school security. I guess he thinks a prison for kids is better than a prison for illegal gun geeks.

  •  This drawing needs an elephant (0+ / 0-)

    for the Republican party, since the NRA funds and supports Republicans almost exclusively.  Sure there are a number of Democrats in the NRA, but from the NRA's positions I think they'd be proud to display a Republican as part of their HQ.  Same as with the Chamber of Commerce - nominally supports both parties but overwhelmingly the leaders of the organization support only Republicans.

  •  NRA related ads pop up on all the prog sites now. (0+ / 0-)

    Not to mention any names, but I guess it's okay they're even willing to give Kos money while they're being savaged.

    May have well spend money everywhere if you have it.

    cheerleaders need not apply.

    by kravitz on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 03:27:51 PM PST

  •  I have realized recently (3+ / 0-)
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    Laconic Lib, ChuckInReno, stevej

    That there is a mental disconnect going on here of such a level that it's going to be very hard to come to anything that people will view as "reasonable" that will at the same time be effective.

    Obama will not run for office ever again.   Healthcare debate is behind him and will be in courts, not on his desk.

    Now is the time to spend some political capital on issues that would make real societal impact.

    There is little point in winning significant office without being willing to risk some real political capital for change.

    Gandhi's Seven Sins: Wealth without work; Pleasure without conscience; Knowledge without character; Commerce without morality; Science without humanity; Worship without sacrifice; Politics without principle

    by Chris Reeves on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 03:28:02 PM PST

    •  What change is it that you want? (0+ / 0-)

      Personally? On this particular topic?

      •  This is a good one (0+ / 0-)

        To start.  But take on several.   I realize some are going to say "elections again in 2 years for his party".   But now is his time to make moves for his party.

        Gandhi's Seven Sins: Wealth without work; Pleasure without conscience; Knowledge without character; Commerce without morality; Science without humanity; Worship without sacrifice; Politics without principle

        by Chris Reeves on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 05:58:18 PM PST

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    •  Your correct in that (0+ / 0-)
      That there is a mental disconnect going on here of such a level that it's going to be very hard to come to anything that people will view as "reasonable" that will at the same time be effective.
      So instead of focusing on things like an AWB that are guaranteed to be losers either in terms of killing any legislation or in terms of the effect on future elections, why aren't we focusing on "reasonable" solutions that are tolerable to more people?
  •  Nailed it, MW. nt (1+ / 0-)
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    stevej

    "The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"

    by Lily O Lady on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 03:28:34 PM PST

  •  Now that magazine is a REAL Oval Office. (1+ / 0-)
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    stevej

    I can see La Pierre running around in it like that scene from 2001: Space Odyssey.

    stay together / learn the flowers / go light - Gary Snyder

    by Mother Mags on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 03:29:44 PM PST

  •  The only thing (0+ / 0-)

    that is missing is a little RKBA sign hiding behind the NRA sign.

  •  you know... (1+ / 0-)
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    Dobber

    the building really does sit kind of like that vis-a-vis the capitol and the beltway.  every time I drive by it I shudder, involuntarily.

    (i prefer your metaphoric rendering to the ediface's actual architecture, however).

    Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

    by a gilas girl on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 04:20:26 PM PST

  •  An observation (1+ / 0-)
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    Where I have never been a republican I once considered myself a democrat. Being a fag taught me the republicans just weren't for me kinda like Jesus, God and Brussels Sprouts. The years were a disaster for the US. Especially after the the Mossad and neo-con assault on America. Where I did not vote for Obama nor any of the major candidates running I had a sense of hope that my gut intuition might be wrong - it rarely is.

    Obama and his policy to not only uphold the treasonous Bush policies (remember the democrats bickered about every step Bush took-rightfully so) but to expand on them, hundreds of executive orders and his self appointment as judge, jury and executioner has begun an America that is so totalitarian as to be quite admired by those that are no longer with us Hitler, Lenin, Stalin, Mussolini, et al. He uses our constitution as toilet paper.

    It's is quite appalling that democrats continue the unabated support for this man. I reckon the keep their mouths shut because he is their guy. And apparently democrats are just the other end of daft apeth, for they are just as insane as the republicans. All of the humor placed in articles is pretty much not all that funny when all humor is lost by the terrorist use you wine and dine on. And quite frankly I could care less if you care about the gay community for we are going to suffer in the society that has a government with two parties that break the law, lie, get rich, warmonger, bailout criminals and don't prosecute the rich, kill, torture, raid raw milk owners, spray poison on our foods, coverup the still continuing massive amounts of radiation coming from Fukushima, Japan (which continues to get more dangerous by the day). At this rate do you think I give a crap about my right to get married. I'd rather put that on hold and restore America to an America that is at least recognisable with liberty and happiness and freedom.

    As I understand our laws and constitution all of this is cause to impeach and prosecute. Some may cause for death. No one sees that this guns issue is just more distraction. Benn Swann does a fantastic breakdown of the anti-gun statistics and the gun haters ARE wrong about their links between guns and crime. I guess after Obama has systematically taking our rights away has just made it now acceptable so as to not critically think about the dangerous outcome of our future. America is no longer the land of the free. There are more things illegal by law in the US than anywhere else on the planet. That is fact. It's illegal to collect rainwater in Oregon for Heaven sake.

    Everyone of us should be ashamed.

    •  Good grief (1+ / 0-)
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      drmah

      Comparing Obama to Hitler, Lenin, Stalin, and Mussolini?  Let's rein in the rhetoric and perhaps we can find some common ground.  

      Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.

      by winsock on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 05:15:45 PM PST

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      •  Rein in the rhetoric? Read these gun threads. (0+ / 0-)

           I'm a mouthbreather and worse. What are you?

        •  Congrats (0+ / 0-)

          I've never been honored by being called a "mouthbreather," but you're right about some of the gun threads around here.  Prevalence does not make it desirable.

          Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.

          by winsock on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 06:13:55 PM PST

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      •  Maybe you misread.... (1+ / 0-)
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        noway2

        I was not comparing Obama to Hitler, Lenin, et al. so much as the government and it's control through legislation of practically everything we do especial in regards to criminal law (collecting rainwater, feeding homeless, and hundreds of scores of new recently legislated draconian and often bipartisan laws) - recently the only two things the two big parties can agree on are how they can increase the fear, control and imprisonment of her citizens. How does this current congress, senate, and president who studied constitutional law see their actions jiving with the oath they take to uphold the constitution. It can't and many of their actions should have had them arrested tried for treason. Their cannot be accommodations for normal or extraordinary situations that nullify our constitution. They ARE traitors.

        For example vacancy at a hotel. Means there are rooms available not kind of or possibility of rooms. It means rooms are available. The patriot act was and is unconstitutional. Murder of citizens via drones is murder without trial. Libya was war without congressional approval and murder. Dual citizenship (our political leaders with Israeli citizenship) is a threat to National Security. Especially when the FBI and CIA has our best friend (not mine thank you) as a threat and considers them an enemy 'always'. No one addresses that those with Israeli / US citizenship take an oath to be loyal to Israel first upon receiving their Israeli citizenship. Have you ever seen the amount of money we give to them. And weapons to shed blood in our name. People really need to wake up.

        And before someone says I am an anti-Semite let me point out that Arabs are semitic as well and most Jews are of Ashkenazi and are not Semitic but descend from Khazar and many nonjewish studies prove this beyond doubt. Of course that too is antisemitic as is anything that Zionists or the media don't like. But as far as me hating Jews is just silly as I almost married a lad who was a Jew and he did not see my views as such. He rather agreed. So no shoe throwing please. That kind of accusation will just he emotion name calling.

        •  From a libertarian (0+ / 0-)

          or minarchist perspective, there is fertile ground for criticism.  And theoretically, I suppose that one might hold strong anti-Zionist views without antisemitism, but it can be a tricky balancing act.

          Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.

          by winsock on Fri Jan 11, 2013 at 04:57:45 AM PST

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    •  Just as I am on this forum advocating for (0+ / 0-)

      better sense in terms of how to handle the problem of gun violence, I am also on the gun forums advocating the need to support the rights of everyone; and yes when I do I specifically talk about things like marriage equality and the right for things like abortion to be personal decisions.

      Like you, I have never considered myself a Republican.  The Democrat response to the cries for more gun control, which is nothing more than a guise for people control is causing me to rethink my association with that party too.

  •  Wow (0+ / 0-)

    Good thing the NRA got an extra couple of mags for their 776mm nutjob rounds, otherwise they might have run out halfway through lobbying.

    "O mulier, magna est fides tua. Fiat tibi sicut vis."

    by rujoking on Fri Jan 11, 2013 at 03:45:53 AM PST

    •  And a lot of the rhetoric from the left (0+ / 0-)

      has been driving people in mass to join their ranks.  Since Newtown, as of yesterday, they had over 100,000 new members.  At $35 each, that is over $3,500,000 to spend on congressional lobbying.  

      We need to stop drawing lines in the sand by calling for more bans and focus on ways to reduce crime and violence and ensure that weapons of any kind stay out of the hands of those who want to do harm.

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