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Tarantino claims that his movie was not made to exploit black people but is intended to encourage a dialogue about the holocaust of slavery in this country. Might I then suggest that he read "Worse than Slavery: Parchman Farm and the Ordeal of Jim Crow Justice" by
David M. Oshinsky. In it, Oshinsky makes it easy to understand why the period up until November of 2008 is commonly referred to by a lot of black people as "The Struggle."  Slavery is exploitation in it's purest form.

I might also suggest that he look at the U.S. Statistical abstract, where with the help of a little math he will find that the murder rate for black men between the ages of 20 and 34 is about 49.0 per 100,000 as compared to 4.87 per 100,000 for the same age group of young white men(as estimated from 2008 data). And, most of those murders are done with hand guns.

I have not seen Mr. Tarantino's movie yet. I will respectfully refrain from insulting anyone's intelligence by trying to draw any direct correlations between a movie and violence on the street. My point is that if a man's bullshit sounds thin, he probably shouldn't do an interview.

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  •  Tip Jar (6+ / 0-)
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    Wafeek, absdoggy, ImpactAv, crose, koNko, buckstop

    Peace, Love, and Prosperity.

    by Rich Lyles on Mon Jan 14, 2013 at 07:22:18 PM PST

  •  Having seen the film (20+ / 0-)

    I have to say as a rhetorical work part of the way you discuss things from a perspective of art is to make things either controversial or ludicris.   It sounds stupid, but people will discuss longer about those subjects than a fact-driven point by point number analysis of anything.

    Django Unchained plays with stereotypes, rewriting history, some offensive dialog, settings, etc.  

    But what it does well, and repeatedly is to remind us of so many other films that have used those exact same tropes without the tongue in cheek measure.  And films that have used them without a figure as an African American who could succeed.

    Tarrintino is hit and miss.  Some will really hate his work.  That's OK.   But the fact that we spend time discussing how close or far it is from reality somewhat proves his point true.. it forces a discussion, where a piece strictly about the data doesn't.

    Gandhi's Seven Sins: Wealth without work; Pleasure without conscience; Knowledge without character; Commerce without morality; Science without humanity; Worship without sacrifice; Politics without principle

    by Chris Reeves on Mon Jan 14, 2013 at 07:28:47 PM PST

    •  There has been tremendous (15+ / 0-)

      negative backlash from those that embrace civil rights. I have been struggling to explain what you put so eloquently to many of them.

      Tarantino pushes these buttons on purpose. But not for the attention or to be rude. Just like Mark Twain he is using the absurdity to embed the injustice in the mind of the audience.

      "Til you're so fucking crazy you can't follow their rules" John Lennon - Working Class Hero

      by Horace Boothroyd III on Mon Jan 14, 2013 at 07:40:43 PM PST

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      •  agreed (2+ / 0-)
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        but his reaction to the questions was bizarre. maybe just an off day, but he looked very small.

        The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

        by Laurence Lewis on Mon Jan 14, 2013 at 08:43:08 PM PST

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        •  He didn't look small at all - the interviewer came (0+ / 0-)

          across as a stupid asshole.

          Tarantino was just calling the interviewer's BS, same as Jon Stewart did to Tucker Carlson.

          •  they were fair questions (1+ / 0-)
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            given the timing. tarantino should have been prepared, with easy, thouhgtful answers. and the response about not being the interviewer's monkey? really?

            The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

            by Laurence Lewis on Tue Jan 15, 2013 at 12:00:01 AM PST

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            •  So Tarantino IS the interviewer's monkey, for you? (0+ / 0-)

              I beg to differ. I do not believe that directors who have made plenty of path breaking movies should be made interviewer's monkeys.

              I am all for hacks like Steven Spielberg, George Lucas, and Kathryn Bigelow being made interviewer's monkeys, however.

              •  wow (0+ / 0-)

                um, he was there to sell his movie. he knows how the game is played. he was asked reasonable questions. he behaved like an ass.

                The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

                by Laurence Lewis on Tue Jan 15, 2013 at 12:54:59 AM PST

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                •  The interviewer played the game badly (0+ / 0-)

                  so Tarantino gave him more no more respect or recognition than he deserved.

                  Tarantino himself said in the interview that the interview was about him selling his movie, so I don't even see your point. The interviewer was interfering with the purpose of the interview; for some reason, the interviewer momentarily entertained the delusion that he is a journalist, forgetting what he really is—a whore.

                  •  um (0+ / 0-)

                    no, actually, the interviewer did exactly what he is hired to do. he asked an artist about the possible social impact of his art. and all tarantino needed to say was that if the violence in his movies caused violence there would be outbreaks of violence wherever his movies play. it's not complicated.

                    The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

                    by Laurence Lewis on Tue Jan 15, 2013 at 01:10:20 AM PST

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              •  Tarantino is sometimes an offensive jerk (0+ / 0-)

                An egotistical, profane, thoughtless jerk, which he seems to find very amusing.

                He has had worse interviews than this one.

                And Spike Lee should kiss his ass, or so said he.

                What about my Daughter's future?

                by koNko on Tue Jan 15, 2013 at 03:11:31 AM PST

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                •  I would have sided with Spike Lee until.. JF/MBB (1+ / 0-)
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                  Jungle Fever and Mo' Better Blues.

                  If you want two films that absolutely use race in a way that is sickening at times, those two are it.   Mo' Better Blues portrayal of Jewish characters is problematic and Jungle Fever is an outright mess.

                  I view both of those films as WAY more offensive then Django.

                  Gandhi's Seven Sins: Wealth without work; Pleasure without conscience; Knowledge without character; Commerce without morality; Science without humanity; Worship without sacrifice; Politics without principle

                  by Chris Reeves on Tue Jan 15, 2013 at 08:47:40 AM PST

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                  •  Actually, I strongly identified with Flipper (2+ / 0-)
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                    Jungle Fever had a lot to say about "fitting-in", crossing over and going home, and all the excess baggage we carry between those points.

                    We don't chose our families, our sex or our skin, and ultimately they can be pretty hard to shed even when we want to.

                    And I think Gator is one of Samuel Jackson's best performances, that stuck with me even longer.

                    So I'm curious, what did you found more offensive than Django?

                    Re the the night club owners in Mo' Better Blues, I agree these were pretty offensive sterotypes and Lee's defense was a bit far-fetched, but at least he didn't tell the ADL to kiss his ass. Sometimes, Tarantino doesn't know when to shut up instead of doubling-down.

                    Where I tend to agree with Lee's criticism of Tarantino is his apparent obsession with, and presumption to speak for, the AA community and experience, and tendency to do so with an un-ending stream of negative stereotypes we are supposed to think are brilliant. So then, what is he after? I think he's a bit confused about ownership. Or maybe he just found a product that sells well to his fans?

                    What about my Daughter's future?

                    by koNko on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 07:42:03 AM PST

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                    •  The problem I had with JF (1+ / 0-)
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                      I believe Lee has several great films (She's Gotta Have It, Do the Right Thing).   But JF to me had one of the worst performances I've seen, in Sciorra who was grating.

                      Samuel L. Jackson was great in his role, and Snipes was good.   But the core message remained that Interracial relationships were more damaging to the community than they were worth and inherrently "wrong".   Which would get explained often.

                      The center of the story just didn't work, it was too convoluted.  

                      Mo Better Blue's problem wasn't just the club owners, it's that the film really struggled to tell a story worth watching.   It seemed to veer all over the map.

                      Gandhi's Seven Sins: Wealth without work; Pleasure without conscience; Knowledge without character; Commerce without morality; Science without humanity; Worship without sacrifice; Politics without principle

                      by Chris Reeves on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 08:10:32 AM PST

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                      •  My take on Jungle Fever (0+ / 0-)

                        Was how the community and the individuals interact in such relationships, more often reinforcing the negatives than the positives.

                        In my own case (Asian transplanted to the US) I had a long (6 years) relationship that ultimately dissolved when the tables turned and my partner faced what I had been shouldering; bending to fit in and to some degree, unconsciously leading a double-life of accommodation.

                        There are two problems with this: as a couple, you tend to form a little fortress or refuge that can be isolating and claustrophobic; as an individual, you do change a lot and weave a new piece of cloth, but the threads it is made from are mostly old material you can't change a much as you want and ultimately face the strain.

                        Lee illustrated that in the scenes where Angie and Flipper moved in together briefly enjoying that little fortress until it became claustrophobic, and the ties to "home" each wanted to cut pulled down the walls. Family and society have a strong gravitational pull.

                        Fact is, a fairly high rate of interracial or intercultural relationships fail because of these problems; they seem to make you or break you as a couple or person.

                        I also thought the ending was true to life; the question mark of Mrs Purify pushing Flipper out of the house. Not quite back to normal and probably never. You can't leave home and can't go home. I'd like to imagine they moved to a new place for a fresh start - optimist!

                        The beginning of the end for me was overhearing a heart-to-heart my partner was having with a friend in the USA (2 years after we relocated to China) where she remarked "I woke up one morning next to a Chinese man I don't know and I'm not sure this is where I want to be".

                        An honest statement that led to a difficult discussion and ultimately, going separate ways. It's quite true she didn't originally buy into that situation and the shoe didn't fit.

                        If you haven't experienced that it's probably a much different movie and might seem contrived, but I thought it was good.

                        You're right, Mo' Better Blues isn't Lee's best film, but I liked the beginning/ending replay. But between those points, a lot of stuff didn't work.

                        Celebrate diversity. Tolerate differences. Even Tarantino, LOL.

                        What about my Daughter's future?

                        by koNko on Thu Jan 17, 2013 at 08:49:32 AM PST

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                    •  Thank you koNko. (1+ / 0-)
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                      Q.T.'s defensiveness in the interview says it all. He has basically packaged and sold the titillating use of a racial epithet among other things to feather his own nest. He doesn't give a shit about the black community, period. For Tarantino to say that he has made this film for the good health and benefit of the black community is a lie. His words, "I'm here to sell a movie..." say it all.

                      Peace, Love, and Prosperity.

                      by Rich Lyles on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 02:44:06 PM PST

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              •  Path breaking? tarantino? (0+ / 0-)

                his whole schtick is to dredge up bad movies from the past and repackage them as if we miss these putrid spaghetti westerns. having said that, he knows how to get the most from his actors and Inglorious Basterds is largely saved by the high quality of its acting across the board, it's ludicrous plot aside. I can watch Chris Waltz over and over again as Landa.Haven't seen Django yet, but I trust i will see some top notch performances and i won't be bored ( I was bored for large parts of Zero Dark Thirty, though it is still a good movie ) by the way glad to see Argo getting some recognition, it is gripping from start to finish, even if half of it is made up. And ya know, I would not put Tarantino in the same class as those directors you listed, either, but not because he is better. He has made some dreadful movies, simply dreadful, as have the others.  And Lucas really hasn't directed much. As for Bigelow, i'd be shocked if Tarantino wasn't a big fan.

        •  Well he knows he offended an oft bashed community. (1+ / 0-)
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          He didn't do it intentionally but it still is hard to accept you did something like one of "those" people and offended someone.

          "Til you're so fucking crazy you can't follow their rules" John Lennon - Working Class Hero

          by Horace Boothroyd III on Tue Jan 15, 2013 at 03:35:19 AM PST

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      •  i'm not going to see this film (0+ / 0-)

        nor do i see his other ones, as a look at one of them was enough for me

        but, if the masses see this movie, something of an education for many viewers, the result ought to be that injustice in general will be more readily recognized and, hopefully, rejected, refused, denied, eliminated

    •  What some object to (0+ / 0-)

      Is his serial gratuitous violence and his serial gratuitous use of the work "nigger" in not just this film but several, and often enough that another social commentator/film director raised the question "What is he after?".

      To which Tarantino responded "He can stand on a chair and kiss my ass" amongst other not terribly intelligent things.

      Right, Quentin, you are one bad-ass motherfucker of an intellectual giant on the issue and that ignorant black guy who obviously has no standing should kiss your ass, and how dare he question you.

      So, gosh, let's put another feather in his cap because that also raises the subject for discussion.

      Personally, I got kind of bored with Tarantino a few films back when his stuff got that predictable so I probably won't bother to see this film when it comes around, but if do I'll keep an open mind but won't expect too much.

      Amusing story-teller at best, but not what I'd consider to be an astute social critic on any level.

      What about my Daughter's future?

      by koNko on Tue Jan 15, 2013 at 03:01:53 AM PST

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      •  He's not an intellectual giant. (0+ / 0-)

        He's no Herzog, no Bergman. He's Tarantino, a guy who thinks the Good the Bad and the Ugly, with it's stiff acting and poor dubbing is the greatest movie ever directed. A fun movie, but let's not get carried away.

        •  It all depends on why you go to the movies (3+ / 0-)
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          I admit, over the years my top-10 list has changed.   I still view films like Vertigo, Citizen Kane in my highest regard.   The Godfather and Goodfellas (frankly, I think Goodfellas is better than any of the Godfathers, so hold that against me) ..

          But some films that rise on my list set people off.   I would argue that Toy Story 2 and Grave of the Fireflies are two of the most effective films I have ever seen.   In very different ways, they are moving, incredibly well paced films.  

          Toy Story 2 mixes in comedy and children's fare for sure, but the message for parents is so deep on so many levels that I think people don't appreciate how good it is because it's animated.   How you can "outgrow" things, people, relationships.. and how those we love might outgrow us.   Love, loss, hope, renewal. Toy Story 2 just absolutely nails it for one who wants to pay attention.  ( I'll say while I don't think TS3 was as good, the scene in the incenerator as they all held hands embracing their fate would be on my list of great moments in film).

          Grave of the Fireflies is one of the few films that I find just outright humbling.  It is to me a story as powerful as "Schindler's List" .. Grave of the Fireflies is one of the few films where I challenge anyone with a soul to sit and watch and not feel at least some need to cry.  It's a devestating look at what happens to individuals during war and the slow telling of children dying of starvation is such a body blow that the first time I saw it I felt like I was going to throw up.   I've seen it a couple times since then.  It's a film I don't feel a need to visit often, but it is one of the most powerful reminders ever put to film of the horrors of war.

          Gandhi's Seven Sins: Wealth without work; Pleasure without conscience; Knowledge without character; Commerce without morality; Science without humanity; Worship without sacrifice; Politics without principle

          by Chris Reeves on Tue Jan 15, 2013 at 08:56:23 AM PST

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          •  rec'd for the Goodfellas comment (1+ / 0-)
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            it remains the best gangster movie ever made. bar none. The Godfather is operatic; Goodfellas shows you what the real mob was like. Haven't seen Fireflies but will look for it.

          •  I love Grave of the Fireflies. (1+ / 0-)
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            But I can't watch it without bawling like a baby.

            Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce

            by pico on Tue Jan 15, 2013 at 04:54:58 PM PST

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            •  Never seen it. (1+ / 0-)
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              But now I will. Guess it comes highly recommended.

              What about my Daughter's future?

              by koNko on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 07:08:47 AM PST

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              •  What's really devastating about the movie (1+ / 0-)
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                is that it's mostly based on a true story.  The only part that isn't is the quasi-attempt at a happy ending.  Which makes it even more depressing.

                Gawd, even the trailer makes me tear up.  There's a bit of sense-memory when that song comes on that reminds me of how much the movie rips me up.

                Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce

                by pico on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 09:29:26 AM PST

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          •  Goodfellas is an excellent example (0+ / 0-)

            Of why I prefer Scorsese to Tarantino.

            And my comments here notwithstanding, I have enjoyed a few Tarantino films but find they fall short of what they could be if he dropped the shock and focused more on the subject.

            What about my Daughter's future?

            by koNko on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 07:13:06 AM PST

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  •  You haven't seen the movie yet....but yet you (7+ / 0-)

    feel compelled to comment.  Dude, that's what the right wingers do--speak out of total ignorance.  I happen to know an African-American scholar of black history who thought this movie was brillliant.  Perhaps you should go see the movie.  LOL--and don't quit your day job .

    In a dark time, the eye begins to see. Theodore Roethke

    by bibble on Mon Jan 14, 2013 at 07:35:49 PM PST

    •  In fairness, Tarantino isn't always the most (9+ / 0-)

      articulate defender of his own movies... But Django stands on its own merits, flaws and all.  Easily one of the better moviegoing experiences I had this year.

      Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce

      by pico on Mon Jan 14, 2013 at 07:41:01 PM PST

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      •  he did the same thing (2+ / 0-)
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        with inglourious basterds. it's appalling and brilliant and entertaining all at the same time.

        The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

        by Laurence Lewis on Mon Jan 14, 2013 at 08:44:17 PM PST

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        •  That about sums it up. (4+ / 0-)

          It's a minor miracle that he and Christoph Waltz found each other.  Tarantino's gotten good-to-great performances out of most of his actors (that is, most of his actors not named Tarantino), but Waltz is somehow the most perfect manifestation of the Tarantino actor ever: no matter how stilted the dialogue, he somehow transforms it into perfect, and perfectly natural grand theatre.  He was also the best thing about both of Tarantino's last two movies.

          Jim Emerson had a funny appreciation of Waltz saying the word "ascertain", which... now I can't not hear him saying it.  (The link is also a very good, mixed review of where Django stumbles.)

          Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce

          by pico on Mon Jan 14, 2013 at 09:51:53 PM PST

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          •  i haven't yet seen django (1+ / 0-)
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            although i shall, but i just watched kill bill for the first time in years. he even got a great performance from uma thurman, who can be very wooden. he even got the greatest acting performances in tony scott's directing career, just from the script.

            my favorite scene of waltz was in the cafe, with the strudel. the meticulous elegance of his pleasure, his sheer exuberance, whether eating pastry or sadistically torturing someone... which is more chilling, that or ralph fiennes under spielberg? and then to wrap up the movie with the most mockingly ridiculous of hollywood happy endings...

            i hate violent films, but tarantino's violence is so comically absurd and visually poetic. he's such a doofus, i think some people don't appreciate the subtlety of his genius.

            The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

            by Laurence Lewis on Mon Jan 14, 2013 at 11:54:16 PM PST

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            •  I don't think he's a genius at all. (0+ / 0-)

              Amusing story teller at times, but hardly genius material.

              In fact, I stopped paying to see his films at the point I realized I was watching 70% recycled content without the 30% funny filler that made some of his early stuff entertaining.

              We know:

              People will rant a lot.
              People will swear a lot.
              People will shoot/hack/beat a lot.
              They will be wearing different costumes than the last film in some cases.
              We are supposed to be shocked, surprised and amused.

              Just stopped working for me.

              Maybe I'm missing something great but I kind of doubt it.

              What about my Daughter's future?

              by koNko on Tue Jan 15, 2013 at 03:36:27 AM PST

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    •  I'm not black, but I have seen the movie (4+ / 0-)

      I think it expresses in a very powerful way the monstrosity of American slavery. I also don't think there's anything in it for African-Americans to be offended by.

      Django Unchained is the only noteworthy movie by a prominent director from last year. Zero Dark Thirty is propaganda normalizing and legitimizing the current phase of American imperialism (a.k.a. War on Terror), while Lincoln is the usual white "Let's feel good about saving dark people."

    •  Did you read the diary? (0+ / 0-)

      And "Worse than Slavery: Parchman Farm and the Ordeal of Jim Crow Justice" by David M. Oshinsky?

      Don't quit your day job.

      What about my Daughter's future?

      by koNko on Tue Jan 15, 2013 at 03:20:20 AM PST

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    •  Good point. (0+ / 0-)

      So last night I went and saw the movie.

      By the way, I didn't have to see the film to know from the tone of his interview that he was doing an exploitation film, because I have seen his other work.  I might have jumped the gun by coming out strong before I saw the movie. My intuition could have been wrong. It is a well made film. A lot of the acting is brilliant, but the film is 45 minutes too long for the simple sake of getting in a whole bunch of extra gratuitous violence that doesn't add anything to the essential story. He turned what could have been a tightly delivered beautiful (potentially educational) story into a meandering comic book tail.  

      Murder in real life is not amusing. I stand by my original comments that center around the staggering loss of life of young black men due to a culture of gun (and other)violence on the street. This movie isn't helping, and Q.T knows it.

      As far as history is concerned, knowledge of the actual level of brutality in Anti Belem Mississippi ( which is difficult to comprehend) render many parts of the plot of this movie implausible. ( The part near the end where the Richie Havens song comes in would have been the end.)

      Peace, Love, and Prosperity.

      by Rich Lyles on Thu Jan 17, 2013 at 04:23:39 PM PST

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  •  Remember, this is a MOVIE (7+ / 0-)

    Movies always include disclaimers saying the are fictional.  I really don't understand why people take things so seriously.

    I remember when folks out there were claiming Star Wars: Phantom Menace was an insensitive film to races when that argument is pretty much B.S.  There's no real basis for making that argument.

    Besides, Tarantino has long been a fan of 70's blaxploitation films.  I also don't think there's a single demeaning portrayal of Blacks or African-Americans in any of his films.  I actually have a Black Muslim friend who loves Tarantino films, even Django Unchained.  He doesn't see what the big issue is here.

    I seriously think we need to spend less time criticizing films and more time focusing on the 2014 elections.

  •  Just saw Django - thought it was brilliant, FWIW. (8+ / 0-)

    I ♥ President Barack Obama.

    by ericlewis0 on Mon Jan 14, 2013 at 07:53:30 PM PST

    •  Saw it Xmas Day and can't get enough of the (4+ / 0-)

      reviews from all sorts of people. Discussion he wanted, discussion he's getting!

      I'll probably watch it 10 more times in the theater and then spring for the DVD when it's out. I didn't much care for Tarantino films (wouldja believe I fell asleep while watching pulp fiction, prolly out of self-protection from all that screen violence) until last summer when I read something about Inglourious Bastards...which provoked me to order the DVD, which I have now watched no fewer than 25 times. So much going on there, also a polyglot linguist's delight.

      Hooray for Christoph Waltz for picking up a Golden Globe, also for Tarantino for best orig screenplay!

  •  Tarantino's violence porn contributes nothing (5+ / 0-)

    Just listen to what he says about it - there's good violence, and there's bad violence. No, there's just violence, and seeing violence as a justified means of solving problems contributes to so many ills.

    Perhaps I'll make Django II.  It's 17 years later and his son Treyvon is walking down the street and is confronted by a neighborhood watch guy who shoots Treyvon dead, because violence is the solution when we encounter someone of a different race we don't know.

    Then his son Abner tries to break up a fight at a nightclub, gets arrested, and is sodomized with a broom handle, because violence by police on suspects is perfectly okay.

    Then his son Jimmy, who liked to pick on two kids named Klebold and Harris, is shot dead along with 20 of his classmates by those kids, because violence against bullies is good violence.

    Yes, violence is so cool -  look at that kid coming out of the bathroom with a "hand cannon" - he missed, and then Jackson/Travolta shoot him dead, wasn't that cool? Ha Ha,  Jackson accidentally blows the guy's head off in the car, spraying brains and blood all over - isn't that funny?

    Yes, Quentin, there is a link between violence porn and idiots like you who believe in good violence, and the rest of us who have to live with the consequences of your filth. Whatever point about slavery you had to make is utterly lost in your homage to guns and gore.

    Liberalism is trust of the people tempered by prudence. Conservatism is distrust of the people tempered by fear. ~William E. Gladstone, 1866

    by absdoggy on Mon Jan 14, 2013 at 07:56:23 PM PST

  •  No good car chase scene (3+ / 0-)
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    Other than that, what's not to like?

    It has loads of gratuitous blood and violence, incredibly good gun shooting, entrepreneurship, a hero, and even a tad of sexual titillation.  If Django weren't Black, this movie would be a Republican's wet dream.

    (But it needs a car chase....)

  •  Add 3 tags: django unchained, Tarantino, screen (2+ / 0-)
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    jayden, mythatsme


    I watched the movie with keen interest, but it didn't make me feel like hitting, striking, stabbing or shooting anyone or anything.

  •  "if a man's bullshit sounds thin, (3+ / 0-)

    he probably shouldn't" write a diary.

    Fake Left, Drive Right . . . not my idea of a Democrat . . .

    by Deward Hastings on Mon Jan 14, 2013 at 08:35:38 PM PST

  •  Bob Dole said Pulp Fiction romanticized heroin use (6+ / 0-)

    He later admitted he never watched the film.

    I find it odd that most of the criticism of this movie, are also by people who have not seen it.

    The tent got so big it now stands for nothing.

    by Beelzebud on Mon Jan 14, 2013 at 08:47:15 PM PST

  •  Yawn (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Wednesday Bizzare, mythatsme, LI Mike

    It's a movie. It either entertains you during that 2 and half hours, or it doesn't. I'm no more likely to kill someone after watching Tarantino's 'Django Unchained' than becoming POTUS after watching Spielberg's 'Lincoln'.

  •  I haven't seen the movie. (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    LI Mike, Rich Lyles

    Nor will I ever see the movie, as you would have to pay me as much as Quentin Tarantino makes to watch one of his films. "Reservoir Dogs" was plenty for my lifetime. Not a fan of violent film, and, well, that's Quentin Tarantino.

    So I won't critique the film. I will say he comes off like a complete ass in the interview, though.

    by Magenta on Mon Jan 14, 2013 at 10:09:35 PM PST

    •  The interviewer is the one who comes across (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      LI Mike

      as a (stupid) ass.

      Jesus, Tarantino is probably the most original filmmaker of his generation. He works inside Hollywood, and yet he gets to make his own films. That's a tremendous accomplishment.

      And I am not a fanboy. I did not like the Kill Bill movies, although now I'll have to revisit them, to see if I'll change my mind.

      It's your privilege not to like violent films. Personally, I prefer to have violence on the screen as opposed to in reality.

      I don't think there's any question that Bigelow's Zero Dark Thirty encourages American violence infinitely more than Django Unchanged does.

  •  I have to say I love Pulp Fiction (0+ / 0-)

    saw it many times, but now I just watch it until the Thurman/Travolta dance. I get to see them dance to Chuck Berry and before that, Samuel L Jackson's pre-murder biblical quote. I can live without the Butch/Marcellus in the basement with the sodomizer scene.

  •  Bizarre (0+ / 0-)

    So Tarantino says the movie will encourage a dialogue about slavery, based upon the movie you write a diary suggesting what you consider important reading, but the movie did not encourage a dialogue about slavery?

    And you write a diary criticizing a movie you haven't seen?

    This is funny on several levels.

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    by dhonig on Tue Jan 15, 2013 at 05:37:36 AM PST

    •  What a relief! (0+ / 0-)

      I saw 60 comments and two recommends, and I didn't even want to look. And then, it turns out everybody is bickering back and forth about film, and Tarantino's work.

      For the record, I think Tarantino is a genius. Pulp Fiction was ground breaking. His sense of timing and dialogue are fantastic.

      Is the movie an exploitation? according to QT in the interview, he wants young black men to have a catharsis with respect to the entrenched scars of  slavery. Tell me if I'm wrong, but I don't see many young black people who have any kind of problem with catharsis. Most young black dudes I know say exactly what is on their mind and don't mind fighting about it.

      I felt like Q.T. came off as a little defensive when the interviewer started asking about violence. I'm guessing that the question is being asked because of the staggering loss of life among young black men due to violence. 49/100k a year- year on year since forever.
      If you are on fire, would you rather me try to put you out or grab a camera and sell the images of your fiery death?  

      Peace, Love, and Prosperity.

      by Rich Lyles on Tue Jan 15, 2013 at 03:10:44 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  Minus the killing (0+ / 0-)

    wish I had a Django coming for me.....

    May today be greater than yesterday, and tomorrow be greater than both! Go Ravens!

    by secret38b on Tue Jan 15, 2013 at 06:47:29 AM PST

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