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A copy of an article today posted here on a local FOX 12 station.

A cut-n-past below the squiggle.

Concerning that an elected law official in Linn County would publish that he will refuse to follow the law if he disagrees with it......  

LINN COUNTY, OR (KPTV) -

The sheriff of Linn County sent a letter to Vice President Joe Biden informing him he will not enforce any gun laws he deems unconstitutional.
In a letter dated Jan. 14 and sent to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. in Washington D.C., Linn County Sheriff Tim Mueller wrote politicians are attempting to exploit the deaths of innocent victims in recent criminal events.

He wrote honest and law-abiding people should not be prevented from owning certain types of guns or ammunition magazines.

"Any federal regulation enacted by Congress or by executive order of the president offending the constitutional rights of my citizens shall not be enforced by me or by my deputies," Mueller wrote. "Nor will I permit the enforcement of any unconstitutional regulations or orders by federal officers within the borders of Linn County, OR."

The sheriff made his feelings perfectly clear in wrapping up his letter.

"In summary, it is the position of this sheriff that I refuse to participate, or stand idly by, while my citizens are turned into criminals due to the unconstitutional actions of misguided politicians."

Originally posted to Shopper47 on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 08:49 AM PST.

Also republished by Shut Down the NRA.

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  •  Looks like this dolt (8+ / 0-)

    is trying to challenge Sheriff Joe Arpaio for the title as America's Most Ignorant Sheriff.

    What's next? Will he demand to see the President's birth certificate?

    •  You know nothing! (0+ / 0-)

      This is the sheriff of my county. His is a non partisan office but every partisan office I can vote for here is filled by a Democrat. I live in an almost all blue state.

      Before anyone wants to get insulting, check the crime stats in my county. Many states in the union should pray they had that low a crime rate ! ( I'm looking at YOU, NY and CA!!)
      Ive met sheriff Mueller, a few times, know several of his deuties from time as a volunteer firemen and otheer civic activities. This is a community policed county, the deputies live among us, their kids go to the schools, they are part of us.. You NEVER hear about police brutality here.
       Mueller also doesn't enforce all the immigration and marijuana laws either and has written similar letters to the Feds spelling out his views on those too. he enforces what he thonkls is constitutional there too--- Is he a dolt for that too? he does what he thinks best for his county with what he has to worrk with in these lean times
      I don't agree with e verything he does but I know he's a thoughtful , good man who is VERY highly regarded by the people he serves very well. Thats the opinion of both the liberals AND the conservs I know. He has no trouble getting re-elected. Evrybody around here thinks this is a well run county. ('Sup, Lane County?)

      As I said below, I voted for him before and will do so again.  Any liberal should be glad to.

      Happy just to be alive

      by exlrrp on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 12:33:49 PM PST

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      •  Any police offer who picks and chooses (5+ / 0-)

        what laws to enforce because it's his believes, over the law of the land, should be removed from office.

        I have decided to stick with love. Hate is too great a burden to bear. Martin Luther King, Jr.

        by cyeko on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 12:44:22 PM PST

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        •  Um excuse me but its not the law of the land?! (0+ / 0-)

          Is that too big a technicality for you?
          he's giving his ideas about  future legislation that has not even been voted on??
          Why don't you wait and see whats actually legal when the dust clears and wait for him to actually violate them before we impeach him or even curse him roundly??.
          I know thats a lot to ask but...........

          Oh and if you don't like him don't vote for him!!

          Happy just to be alive

          by exlrrp on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 12:57:42 PM PST

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          •  Um excuse me..you yourself said...and I qoute" (3+ / 0-)
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            trumpeter, BlueJessamine, Smoh

            Mueller also doesn't enforce all the immigration and marijuana laws either and has written similar letters to the Feds spelling out his views on those too. he enforces what he thonkls is constitutional there too--- Is he a dolt for that too? he does what he thinks best for his county with what he has to worrk with in these lean times.

            So get off my back.

            I have decided to stick with love. Hate is too great a burden to bear. Martin Luther King, Jr.

            by cyeko on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 01:21:42 PM PST

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      •  Sorry, but this man is definitely a dolt (5+ / 0-)
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        trumpeter, Sylv, smartdemmg, mwm341, Smoh

        No. 1, local officials don't enforce federal laws anyway. That's for the feds.

        No. 2,  local officials don't get to decide whether a law is constitutional or not; that's for the courts. If he believes a particular law is unconstitutional, then he needs to file a lawsuit against it, not ignore it.

        No. 3, he has no legal authority over federal officers enforcing federal laws in his county. He should go read this constitution he claims to revere sometime. There's something in there called the Supremacy Clause.

        If he really acted in the way he claimed he would in this blustery letter and tried to interfere with federal agents doing their jobs, he could end up in doing some quality time in a federal penitentiary somewhere.

        But I suspect he would backtrack just as quickly as that Youtube blowhard if he was looking at the real consequences he would face if he acted the way he said he would in his letter.

        Pfft.

      •  Boy, that was fast! (0+ / 0-)

        Seize the topic and shut it down.  Wow!

        Careful everyone --  we'll be seeing a lot of this for a while...

        President Barack Obama. Good man in a storm.

        by mwm341 on Thu Jan 17, 2013 at 06:17:39 AM PST

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  •  oregon reliably delivers for dems (2+ / 0-)
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    in presidential races.  we currently have two dem senators.  i'm lucky enough to be represented by blumenauer.

    and yet, look at what's happening in my back yard, in Linn County, no less -- home of Corvallis -- a college town that helps keep Linn and Oregon blue.  

    so please do NOT try to tell me there will be no electoral consequences for dems should they pursue an AWB.  drop it.  drop it now, and work for things like repeaing tiahrt that won't cause such a stir and/or split the left.

    Please don't dominate the rap, Jack, if you got nothin' new to say - Grateful Dead

    by Cedwyn on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 09:05:33 AM PST

    •  You would give up... (7+ / 0-)

      This.

      We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win, and the others, too.
      I mourn for what was the BEST of America.  Rising to the challenge, facing the unknown with confidence, where is that spirit now.

      In all of the world's problems religion has never been the solution

      by Tailgunner30uk on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 09:16:33 AM PST

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      •  we're not talking about unknowns (0+ / 0-)

        we're talking about real-life reactions to the idea of an AWB that demonstrate it's maybe not such a winning idea.

        given that the GOP controls the house, fighting the good fight only gets us so far.  it all comes down to the chances of a not-toothless AWB getting out of the house.  a toothless one is not worth fighting for, correct?

        and i doubt half the country was all "hell no, we're not going to the moon!"

        Please don't dominate the rap, Jack, if you got nothin' new to say - Grateful Dead

        by Cedwyn on Thu Jan 17, 2013 at 06:25:43 AM PST

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    •  wrong (10+ / 0-)

      obama got less than 40% in linn. corvallis is not eugene, and outside of corvallis, linn is rural and red.

      The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

      by Laurence Lewis on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 09:22:29 AM PST

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      •  lane, linn...lane, linn (1+ / 0-)
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        who named these counties, anyway!?

        moar coffee!

        Please don't dominate the rap, Jack, if you got nothin' new to say - Grateful Dead

        by Cedwyn on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 09:32:22 AM PST

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      •  Corvallis is (7+ / 0-)

        the county seat of Benton County.

        Benton is blue.  And yes Linn is rural and red. blec.

        "the Devil made me buy this dress!" Flip Wilson as Geraldine Jones

        by BlueJessamine on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 10:55:48 AM PST

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        •  Plenty of liberals and Democrats here!! (1+ / 0-)
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          You should see all the Obama signs around---and guess what? Nobody stole them as far as I know!
          I live in Linn County nd everybody I can vote for is a ---wait for it---DEMOCRAT!!
          Figure it out!

          Happy just to be alive

          by exlrrp on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 12:39:55 PM PST

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      •  Only 40% democrat, gee whiz (0+ / 0-)

        yeah, you should kick us out of the party

        Happy just to be alive

        by exlrrp on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 12:52:38 PM PST

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        •  we love that you're there (2+ / 0-)
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          BlueJessamine, Smoh

          your sheriff is hardly representative of state trends.

          The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

          by Laurence Lewis on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 01:23:49 PM PST

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          •  I HAVE Talked to other Linn County Dems about this (1+ / 0-)
            Recommended by:
            Cedwyn

            And, altho hardly anyone agrees with him on everything, there is a general consensus that he is doing an OK or better job and there is not significancat oppsition to him.

            I need to point out that  altho Linn County is a 60-40 county, EVERY parisan office I can vote for is aa Democrat? I LIKE ghat  lot, and it was nt inconsequential whenn I was choosing a place to live (2004) Maybe not so all red, eh?. I knew when I saw all the Kerry signs I cold live here.

            How about the time Mueller filed suit because he didn't think it was right to give gun permits to marijuana card holderss?? What do  you think of that, Mueller, er dislikers? think he was a dolt for maintaining that untill the OR supreme court told him off?? And now he enforces that law just as they specified, as is his job?

            Opinion? Liberal thing or not?

            Happy just to be alive

            by exlrrp on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 02:10:22 PM PST

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            •  Oh BTW (1+ / 0-)
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              Cedwyn

              The OR supreme court told him he had to issue gun permits to maijuana card holders. Yes its true, you can have  marijuana card AND a gun permit in OR
               and Mueller goes along with the law now.
              he WILL institute a suit on this if thats what happens, no doubt about it

              Happy just to be alive

              by exlrrp on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 02:15:35 PM PST

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            •  he sounds libertarian (3+ / 0-)
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              Sylv, smartdemmg, Smoh

              but if gun control laws are on the books, he must enforce them. if he wants to file suit, and the county supports his so using public funds, that's fine. but if his suit fails, he must enforce the law.

              The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

              by Laurence Lewis on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 02:16:07 PM PST

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              •  Wait till then to hang him (0+ / 0-)

                He opposed the gun permits to MJ holders untill told otherwise by the OR Sup---remember? Now he gives them out to MJ card holders as told. he'd probably do the same with this..
                He'd not an unreasonable guy but a real independent one. All these people hati---I mean intensely disliking hijm should know he doesn't enforce some of the immigration laws he's required to because he doesn't want to roust some of the best people in the county. He says if the feds want to enforce that they should pay him more---which is also part of this. OK he may not be a liberal but you gotta like that. He really IS oriented to giving the people their rights, something you GOTTA like in a sheriff.
                You MUST know how all the rural counties are cutting back their already cutback departments. 911 gets you a machine in many counties 6 hrs a night!

                I know one thing:
                The is the loosest policed county I ever lived in and thats just fine with me. you could walk past the courthouse in Albany smoking a doob as big as Beaverton and at worst you would just  get a ticket. I grew up in some mean streets in CA, no error. (like Richmond)
                This is an old hippies dream, literally.

                One of the safest counties i one of the safest states

                (PS I'm not mad at you LL< you know I like your other stuff about OR.)

                Happy just to be alive

                by exlrrp on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 02:31:05 PM PST

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                •  i'm not into hanging anyone (3+ / 0-)
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                  Sylv, BlueJessamine, Smoh

                  but if even if he holds up on gun control until the courts have ruled, i will criticize him. we need common sense gun control, and the measures obama proposed and established are not exactly extreme.

                  The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

                  by Laurence Lewis on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 03:01:57 PM PST

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                  •  Here's some other stuff he did (0+ / 0-)

                    So you know there's a lot more to this man than is being said. He's complex

                    He sent a similar letter about not enforcing federally demanded immigration laws, saying, among other things that it was not his job to break up families and bother law abiding citizens. (very similar to what he said here)
                    We're liberals, Right?? SMILEY FACE!!! :-)

                    He wrote a letter to the feds saying he was not going to enforce marijuana laws in contravention of oregon marijuana laws.
                    We're liberals, RIGHT?? SMILEY FACE!!!  :-)

                    he has a thing abot enforcing extra federally demanded mandates.
                    We're liberals, right? Hmm, MAYBE FACE :-'

                    I'm gonna stop right here and commend hm for the stand he took on BOTH of these issues and I SURE DO HOPE that everybody who wrote nasty letters and sent nasty emails about him will now send out more saying he should be impeached (or whatever) for not following federal giuidelines on immigration and marijuana.PLEASE!!! I mean you DO want to be consistent, right!! Or do we just  cherrypick our hateful feelings about the man?? Based on ignorance?

                    I have never felt better about a sherriff than when I read his stand on enforcing immigration and not his job to break up families. I never heard a snheriff say a trur word or understand his job better.   You bet I think he gets the Hispanic vote here, small as it is.. I thought then that it was worthy of my vote and I have seen nothing since to change my mind.

                    Happy just to be alive

                    by exlrrp on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 04:53:50 PM PST

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    •  I have only one response to that suggestion... (8+ / 0-)

      Nuts!

      GODSPEED TO THE WISCONSIN FOURTEEN!

      by LordMike on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 09:25:53 AM PST

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    •  Ooh! Scary losses if we don't obey the high priest (4+ / 0-)
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      tgrshark13, SilentBrook, exterris, Smoh

      s of the NRA!

      Then they came for me - and by that time there was nobody left to speak up.

      by DefendOurConstitution on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 09:34:46 AM PST

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    •  cedwyn, why can't dems do both. (5+ / 0-)
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      tgrshark13, Samer, SilentBrook, cyeko, Smoh

      You think that the rest of us should bow down to some sheriff who sounds completely insane?

      I don't

      I don't see why we can't do both.

    •  No. (3+ / 0-)
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      BlueJessamine, SilentBrook, Smoh

      Corvallis is Benton county, Albany is Linn county.

      Here's your horoscope for today: The universe doesn't even know that you exist.--Jbou

      by greycat on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 09:55:01 AM PST

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    •  Corvallis is in Benton county, not Linn. (8+ / 0-)

      In fact, it's the Benton county seat.
      Linn County is the next county east, across the Willamette River; Albany is its county seat and largest city.  
      It's true that Corvallis isn't as liberal as Eugene, but they didn't elect Sheriff Mueller. Benton county's sheriff is a Democrat, Diana Simpson, the first elected female sheriff in Oregon.

    •  Hi Cedwyn.... (2+ / 0-)
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      BlueJessamine, Cedwyn

      Corvallis is just over the line, in Benton County.

      Sorry I missed seeing you at Winglion and Sara's on Friday.  I was especially sad to have missed it when I saw you in the photos.

    •  Corvallis is the seat of Benton County. (2+ / 0-)
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      BlueJessamine, SilentBrook

      It's west of the Willamette, just over the river from Linn County.

      Strength and dignity are her clothing, she rejoices at the days to come; She opens her mouth with wisdom, and the law of kindness is on her tongue.

      by loggersbrat on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 10:25:02 AM PST

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    •  Wrong county! (2+ / 0-)
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      SilentBrook, Smoh

      Corvallis is in Benton County, not Linn County. Look it up!

      (I used to have a job that required me to track poverty in all of the counties in Oregon, but I urge you to get it right on your own!)

      Benton County is reliably 'blue,' Linn County is not. Oh, just an aside, Linn County has far more poverty and unemployment than Benton County, although the presence of Oregon State U in Benton is a factor.

      "We will find fulfillment not in the goods that we have, but in the good we can do for each other." ~ RFK

      by paz3 on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 10:39:12 AM PST

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    •  Linn is grass seed country (1+ / 0-)
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      BlueJessamine

      I lived in Linn County the past couple of years - Harrisburg. The county seat is Albany. It is very red, very rural.

      Free: The Authoritarians - all about those who follow strong leaders.

      by kbman on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 12:33:09 PM PST

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      •  Linn County (2+ / 0-)
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        kbman, Smoh

        used to feature a Pittsburgh-like concentration of industry in a made-up town called Millersburg, that was incorporated to funnel corporate welfare to the companies and to protect them from pesky local goverments.

        Recently the huge pulp mill, once known as "the stinking cancer," closed, although some wood products and chemical plants remain.   We lost 1000  union jobs when the mill closed, but the town smells better.

        Many folks in nearby Albany, the largest town, are trying to pretty up their area.

        When I met Sharon Konopa during the fight against the Gatorade water rights grab, she was progressive, and she's mayor of Albany now.

        I never had dealings with the Linn County sheriff, but then,  Linn County Commissioners and their allies were hopeless reactionaries and corporate pawns.

        Orly, it isn't evidence just because you downloaded it from the internet.

        by 6412093 on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 12:51:00 PM PST

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  •  Amazing how many of these so-called Americans (11+ / 0-)

    sat by and did nothing while Bush and Cheney were using the Constitution as toilet paper.

    Actually, they did worse than nothing -- they reelected them.

    Refuge Watch -- news from America's national wildlife refuges

    by Naturegal on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 09:08:35 AM PST

  •  wow, so he'll violate the US Constitution (4+ / 0-)
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    SilentBrook, kbman, elmo, Smoh

    in order to uphold what he, and he alone, thinks is Constitutional.

    •  Actually (1+ / 0-)
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      BlackSheep1

      There are alot of western sheriffs involved in a group that was formed when the patriot act was passed. They will not enforce laws they honestly think will violate our civil rights. They have also been known block searches by the federal government that do not have proper warrants and such even arrest and jail a federal cop.

      You will note that many also refused to displace Occupy Wall Street Protestors even when ordered to do so. And yes they still have their jobs.  

      It is the heart that makes a man rich. He is rich according to what he is not what he has -Henry Ward Beecher

      by PSWaterspirit on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 10:05:55 AM PST

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      •  PSW, removing OWS was not a Federal Law (2+ / 0-)
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        pistolSO, SilentBrook

        there is a huge difference between not enforcing something a mayor has "asked" you to versus preventing Federal Agents from enforcing Federal Law.

        This has happened before in history where some Low IQer thinks they can prevent Federal Agents from enforcing Federal Laws.

        The First time was the 1794 Whiskey Rebellion where President Washington used the Military to stop farmers from preventing Federal Agents from enforcing Federal Laws.

        In his 1794 Proclamation George Washington said the farmers were committing "Treasonous Acts" and the farmers were put down by the US Military.

        George Washington used US Constitution Article 1, Section 8, Clause 15

        "Congress shall have Power To provide for calling forth the Militia to Execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel invasions."
        •  You don't get it (2+ / 0-)
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          BlackSheep1, exlrrp

          if they deem a law to be violating our civil rights they will stand with the citizen over any level of government.

          That is what their association is all about. It has little to do with guns and alot to do with the patriot act.

          This just happens to be the one area you disagree with them on so they are stupid with low IQs.

          The western states have been unwilling to follow many federal laws over the last 100 + years. Not enforcing them is one tried and true method that has been used many times because it works well.

          It is the heart that makes a man rich. He is rich according to what he is not what he has -Henry Ward Beecher

          by PSWaterspirit on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 11:35:22 AM PST

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          •  Mueller picks and chooses Immigratin and pot laws (0+ / 0-)

            He's written letters to th Feds outtlining the things he thinks are constitutional  about those laws and what he's going to enforce. On those issues, liberals can not fault him.

            All you people who are Godding and Damming Linn County should try coming here some time.

            Happy just to be alive

            by exlrrp on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 12:43:49 PM PST

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          •  PSW - I get it, and I get that what you say (0+ / 0-)

            they are doing is a violation of the US Constitution which is the Supreme Law of the land.

            If this Low IQ Sheriff interferes with Federal Agents enforcing Federal Laws then he will find himself in jail very quickly.

      •  yes, PSWaterspirit, they're right in many cases (0+ / 0-)

        ... I don't see anything unconstitutional in what VP Biden and President Obama announced today. I'll have to have concrete specifics on some of the proposals that are couched in generalities before I'm willing to back all of it unquestioningly, though.

        I'm one of the peeps who thought the USA PATRIOT ACTS should've been thrown out and every ucker who voted for them prosecuted for treason, btw.

        LBJ, Lady Bird, Anne Richards, Barbara Jordan, Sully Sullenberger, Ike, Drew Brees, Molly Ivins --Texas is no Bush league! -7.50,-5.59

        by BlackSheep1 on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 11:58:15 AM PST

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  •  That's one way to say , I quit . (3+ / 0-)
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    TeamSarah4Choice, SilentBrook, Smoh

    Does he forfeit his retirement , his benefits ?
    Does Biden get to rip things off of the sheriff's uniform ?

    "Drop the name-calling." Meteor Blades 2/4/11

    by indycam on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 09:40:29 AM PST

  •  If I were president (3+ / 0-)

    I might just have to invite the sheriff to the white house .
    Maybe take him up in Marine One and open the side door
    so the sheriff could have a good look see at the real world .

    "Drop the name-calling." Meteor Blades 2/4/11

    by indycam on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 09:46:17 AM PST

  •  Constitutionaly is determined (7+ / 0-)

    by the courts, not by the sheriffs department.

    I'm living in America, and in America you're on your own. America's not a country. It's just a business.

    by CFAmick on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 10:05:31 AM PST

  •  I called the Linn County Sheriff's office (7+ / 0-)

    and complained that the Sheriff is inserting himself and his views into national politics instead of making Albany and Linn County safer.  It is NOTORIOUS as one of the centers of meth use, production and culture here in Oregon.  

    •  Got his personal assistant... (6+ / 0-)

      She was polite but a little shocked to get this call.  Told her the Sheriff's actions were an embarrassment, that the Sheriff should be concentrating on the problems of crime and meth use in Linn County, not inserting himself into National politics.  Also used the "he must have missed civics class because

      Constitutionality is determined by the courts, not by the sheriffs department.  Thanks CFAmick

      Anyone else want to call?  

      1115 Montgomery Street Southeast
      Albany, OR
      (541) 967-3950

      •  Don't have a lot of respect for this Sheriff (1+ / 0-)
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        Smoh

        Would love to see him replaced.

        "the Devil made me buy this dress!" Flip Wilson as Geraldine Jones

        by BlueJessamine on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 11:03:24 AM PST

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        •  I live in his county an I'll vote for him again (0+ / 0-)

          he also picks and chooses the Immigration and Pot laws he enforces and has writtent to thee Feds concerning these also. No liberal could fult him for these positions!
          Any liberal who knows this guy should cote for him

          I'm going to email him and tell him I think he's doing an excellent job and all I have to do is look at the crime statistics----eat your heart out, Portland! NY! CA!!

          Happy just to be alive

          by exlrrp on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 12:48:52 PM PST

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          •  my neighbors have lived here for years (1+ / 0-)
            Recommended by:
            Smoh

            and don't care for him either. They have called the Sheriff's Office and they don't even show up. The deputies just call by phone to tell folks "it ain't nuthin."

            I glad that you have reasons to respect him. Too bad we all don't.

            "the Devil made me buy this dress!" Flip Wilson as Geraldine Jones

            by BlueJessamine on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 12:58:00 PM PST

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            •   Not his fault there's little money (0+ / 0-)

              If you actually want to look at the crime stats you will see that this is one of the safest counties in one of the safest states.
              Yes you have to be ready for do it yourself law enforcement, as with many OR counties. Its a matter of funding, not the sheriff's desires.

              Ive met the man, know people who know him well, have watched him all the time he's been sheriff, voted for him.
              When you and the other people here can say that, I'll have more respect for your opinion in this matter

              Happy just to be alive

              by exlrrp on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 01:07:06 PM PST

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    •  Oregan gal, what was their reply to you? nt (2+ / 0-)
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  •  Simple solution for this Sheriff (3+ / 0-)
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    Sheriff Mueller, your job is to enforce the law. If you believe that a law or a series of laws is unconstitutional, then you can bring suit, and be committed to bring it all the way to the Supreme Court.

    Then you will know if any new laws passed by the Congress  are constitutional, or not, and you can follow those laws.

    Thing is, whatever the President does by executive order will almost certainly be consitutional, and we will find out fairly quickly; any laws passed will also be challenged quickly, no doubt...

    Then again, the 'smart' gun nuts/NRA may not be too eager to challenge new safety regulations,as they may be upheld given that the Supremes have already stated in the D.C. case that certain restrictions on guns in public may likely be constitutional.

    New York's new restrictive gun safety laws will be challenged, and if they stand it will set a precedent for all states, including Oregon, Sheriff Mueller, so I see stronger public gun safety laws down the road here in Oregon, too.

    Then what, Sheriff? You can't keep your job if you defy state laws within the state where you serve.

    "We will find fulfillment not in the goods that we have, but in the good we can do for each other." ~ RFK

    by paz3 on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 10:34:06 AM PST

  •  this makes me sick (5+ / 0-)

    As an Oregon resident, this makes me sick.  Yes, Oregon reliably votes blue, but there are many people in rural areas where I live that believe the same as this Sheriff.  In Central Oregon, the opinion letters in our local paper are running 80% against gun control measures and we are experiencing the run on gun stores and applications for concealed carry permits here too.  I just wrote an opinion piece that will be published in our paper soon, and before I did it, I had to think about it seriously since they publish our names and I am in the phone book.  I have received phone calls after being published before, but I am afraid one of these gun nuts will come shoot at my house.  I ultimately decided that it is too important to not speak up against this type of thinking.

    As one of the few states that has a Democratic majority in the legislature and a Democratic Governor, you would think we could pass some gun control regulations, but the consensus seems to be that they won't be be able or attempt to do anything like New York did.  

    After reading about this Sheriff, I just wrote to Governor Kitzhaber asking that he publicly remind Sheriff Mueller that it is not his job to determine the constitutionality of any law, only to enforce ALL the laws enacted by duly-elected officials, both state and federal.  And to make it clear that in Oregon, we are not like Arizona and Sheriff Arpaio.  We will follow and enforce all the laws equally.  I hope he publicly does just that.

  •  this is my sheriff (1+ / 0-)
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    And anybody who says he s another Arpaio is full of it
    He also doesn't enforce the immigration laws he is supposed to nor all the marijuana laws either A thought ful guy who thinks of the people he was elected to serve . I voted for him be fore and I wIll do so again

    Happy just to be alive

    by exlrrp on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 11:15:34 AM PST

    •  Do you know what hijacking a thread is? Is he a (1+ / 0-)
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      relative? A boyfriend? someone important to you? It appears after reading all your responses that they are the same response over and over and over with you just stating your valuing of him and claiming low crime stats which as an Oregonian  I would dispute... See it is VERY easy to have low stats if you simply ignore the meth labs or other crimes you don't think should be enforced (because you know th family and go to thier BBQs) except maybe on those you don't like.... That is his job to enforce the laws... Not to make himself look good by simply doing nothing about what he doesn't want to  and not to people he thinks are great enough to be allowed to not be punished for laws that others are punished for. O rmaybe in the case of immigration it is not such a kindly gesture to the illegal but those who have them working cheap on thier grass farms.

      Either he is someone as you said you know and so you are defending your judgment and giving him a pass...

      You assume you are the only authority on him and everyone elses opinion is based on jumping to conclusions and that they are just jerks.... Maybe this is why you like him... because he has an opinion and the power to make others follow his opinion, right or wrong... Since he selectively chooses when and how to enforce the  law.

      I also lived for a time in Richmond. You have a strange viewpoint for a liberal.

      Fear is the Mind Killer...

      by boophus on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 09:52:38 PM PST

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  •  Cops Are Frequently Involved In Gun Running (2+ / 0-)
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    Notice how places that are hotbeds of gunrunning like Arizona are also chock full of "superpatriot" cops?

    There’s always free cheddar in a mousetrap, baby

    by bernardpliers on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 11:21:48 AM PST

  •  Isn't this mostly a theatrical gesture? (0+ / 0-)

    To what extent do sheriffs enforce federal law, anyway?  There is something similar that I guess has been brought up in the GA legislature that excited one of my ammo-aimin' amigos from Facebook and I wondered the same thing:  so what?

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