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House Speaker John Boehner's office responds to President Obama's call for new control legislation:
"House committees of jurisdiction will review these recommendations," said a spokesman for House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio. "And if the Senate passes a bill, we will also take a look at that."
So on the one hand, Boehner doesn't seem at all interested in picking a fight with President Obama over gun control. That's a reflection of how public opinion has shifted on gun control. But on the other hand, he clearly doesn't feel any particular urgency to take any action.

Barring some sort of miraculous conversion on the part of House Republicans, the only way any significant legislation will move forward in the House is if GOP leadership agrees to once again allow a bill opposed by a majority of Republicans to move to the floor. And the only way that will happen is if House Republicans feel the same sort of pressure to take action that they did on the tax cliff and Hurricane Sandy votes, both of which were rare examples of legislation passing the House despite Republican opposition.

Where might that pressure come from? Here's three potential sources: (a) the Senate passing a bill, (b) President Obama using the bully pulpit, and (c) a few "trusted" Republicans urging action (like Rep. Peter King (R-NY) and Gov. Chris Christie (R-NJ) on the Sandy aid package, or Rep. Tom Cole (R-OK) on the tax cliff). In the current climate, I think you'd probably need all three to happen for there to be a chance that House Republicans would feel compelled to act on anything significant. Otherwise, Republicans will probably just try to bottle everything up.

That's hardly a recipe for easy success, but between the mass shootings that we've already experienced (not to mention the tragic prospect for more) and the National Rifle Association's incredibly inept communications strategy, gun control opponents in their weakest position in years. Moreover, as Greg Sargent points out, by making a more sweeping proposal up front, the White House has put itself in the position of being able to make concessions (such as on the assault weapons ban) to build a coalition while still feeling good about what they achieve package. And whatever ends up happening, the politics here aren't friendly to Republicans. They may have the clout to kill any reform, but they will pay a price for doing so. The question will be: how much?

Tell Congress: Pass the gun safety proposals outlined by President Obama

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  •  Yeah, Boehner will do ANYTHING to ensure (13+ / 0-)

    that he doesn't have to do any actual work. He wants to defend his "Speaker Of The Least Productive House" award.

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    by Guile Of The Gods on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 11:49:30 AM PST

    •  And he's a natural! (3+ / 0-)

      The Onion says----scholars have discovered---the Mayan word for "Apocalypse" in fact---translates more accurately as: "Time of pale obese gun monsters."

      by lyvwyr101 on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 12:10:19 PM PST

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    •  Simpler Boehner: I sure hope the filibuster reform (1+ / 0-)
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      doesn't pass so that McConnell can filibuster this and I don't have to deal with a hot potato, after all the last thing he wants is to break the Hastert rule and betray his masters! (FWIW, I don't think Boehner would ever allow a vote unless he knows that he has enough Republicans to beat the measure, or unless he first get in a really good poison pill - like Obamacare must be repealed as part of this bill.

      Then they came for me - and by that time there was nobody left to speak up.

      by DefendOurConstitution on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 12:14:28 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  Say no to Hastert Asshattery nt (5+ / 0-)

    As the Elites Come Together to Rise Above to Find a Third Way to do Rude things to the 99%

    by JML9999 on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 11:49:34 AM PST

  •  What? The House can't do any work until (6+ / 0-)

    after the Senate is finished?  

    Surely they can review the guidelines and be prepared when it's their time to take action.  Why wait?

    Oh, I know, but their reason doesn't make sense.

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    by Noddy on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 11:51:07 AM PST

  •  Passive-aggressive orange fucktard. (7+ / 0-)

    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

    by darthstar on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 11:51:19 AM PST

  •  "The Bully Pulpit". Has he ever really gotten (1+ / 0-)
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    much with that?

    •  Boehner uses the baby pulpit. He cries like a (2+ / 0-)
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      baby until he gets his way.

      Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

      by darthstar on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 12:06:32 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  Not in the beginning or even his first term (0+ / 0-)

      But, I think he used it to help frame and push the agenda regarding the fiscal cliff fiasco.  I understand the success can be debated.  

      He's framing the debate on the the debt ceiling very well.  We'll have to see if it has legs, but I really like what I'm hearing.

      This is the time to use it for reasonable gun control.  Even some NRA members I know like much of what he's saying.  He's opening up emotionally and people identify with that.  It gives power to the Bully Pulpit.

      I can see how someone would think he was ineffective for much of his first term in his use of the pulpit.

      Bush was unfortunately awesome at using it.

      But, nobody beats Teddy!!

      "If the misery of the poor be caused not by the laws of nature, but by our institutions, great is our sin." Charles Darwin

      by Rockydog on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 12:23:16 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  I think he meant.... (7+ / 0-)

    Boehner spokesman: House will 'review these recommendations' and wait for NRA instructions.

    Nature created the human race, but humans created racism.

    by GrannyOPhilly on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 11:52:42 AM PST

  •  He wants Democratic Senators to take votes (6+ / 0-)

    that are politically risky (in red states) purely to give the NRA something to bash them for in 2014 and 2016.

    Filibuster reform now. No more Gentleman's agreements.

    by bear83 on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 11:53:00 AM PST

    •  They can bash all they like- (1+ / 0-)
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      it's going to happen!

      The Onion says----scholars have discovered---the Mayan word for "Apocalypse" in fact---translates more accurately as: "Time of pale obese gun monsters."

      by lyvwyr101 on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 12:12:26 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  The NRA is busy now defining the term "overreach" (1+ / 0-)
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        "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

        by SueDe on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 12:46:10 PM PST

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        •  Yes. (0+ / 0-)

          I'm sure they are busy defining the term "overreach."

          It will most likey be legitimate overreach---- and actual overreach.

          Why am I thinking it may also involve sperm?

          The Onion says----scholars have discovered---the Mayan word for "Apocalypse" in fact---translates more accurately as: "Time of pale obese gun monsters."

          by lyvwyr101 on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 02:24:35 PM PST

          [ Parent ]

  •  Major gun safety reform was never going to be... (4+ / 0-)

    easy, but we've got the President committed to it and a Senate no longer in the mood to filibuster high profile legislation (or have blue dogs curl up in a fetal position). Our odds of success are much higher now than ever....and now that the Hastert rule has been blown up, we've got a good chance.

    My hope is that it doesn't take yet another massacre to get movement, but it seems like national outcries and crises are the only things that get the GOP to do anything morale and right.

    •  And not even then! (0+ / 0-)

      ............national outcries and crises are the only things that get the GOP to do anything morale and right.

      The Onion says----scholars have discovered---the Mayan word for "Apocalypse" in fact---translates more accurately as: "Time of pale obese gun monsters."

      by lyvwyr101 on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 12:13:33 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  A lot of "movement" depends on pressure (0+ / 0-)

      from the public who are in favor of at least some rational gun control regulations.  You just know the gun nuts who want no regulations at all will be calling and writing their congress critters.  If the sane people don't push back, they'll lose this opportunity.

      "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

      by SueDe on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 12:49:35 PM PST

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  •  Well, let Harry Reid take a firm stand; and stand (6+ / 0-)

    up to the NRA---and start working to get a bill on the Senate floor and thru the Senate!!

    Let's not put ALL on the onus on Boehner.

  •  Long overdue (4+ / 0-)
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    The Constitution does not grant the National Rifle Association veto power over laws proposed or passed by the President or Congress. The gun lobby is not the arbiter of what is proper or necessary to keep Americans safe. What Obama has offered is a collection of common sense reforms that probably don't go far enough, which is the sad political reality facing our country today. That the gun nuts are screaming about even these small measures is more proof of their lack of sanity and inability to reason in a normal fashion. I hope these morons go forward with all of their threats to impeach or otherwise attack the president. It will show the country that the only people opposed to measures that will save lives are rabid extremists that hate America.   -  progressive

  •  House Republicans are already split to Bizzies (4+ / 0-)
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    and Birchers. Roughly 84 to 150 at the Fiscal Cliff. Fewer Bizzies at the Sandy votes.

    That gets hacked further to Safeties and Gunners, the Bizzies are done as a political force.

    Boehner is in an impossible situation as leader of the Bizzies. They don't belong in the Republican Party. They have next to none of the safe seats in Red States.

    Now he's supposed to lead a fight with Obama against gun control ????? O.K., fine.

    "We have done nothing to be ashamed of. We have nothing to apologize for." NRA 12/14/2012

    by bontemps2012 on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 12:00:03 PM PST

  •  Expect that the GOP TeaP's will welcome bills (5+ / 0-)

    that they can vote against.

    They don't care about governing; they will want stuff for their campaign advertising for next year.

    Probably much can be pushed past Boehner if the Democratic legislators want to.

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    by ROGNM on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 12:00:13 PM PST

  •  Sadly today there's another likely pressure (2+ / 0-)
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    DefendOurConstitution, lyvwyr101

    The longer they wait, the more likely another Columbine/Sandy Hook situation will happen while they debate.

    We get what we want - or what we fail to refuse. - Muhammad Yunus

    by nightsweat on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 12:00:21 PM PST

    •  Sad reality (0+ / 0-)

      in a country with this many guns---and such lax gun laws.

      The Onion says----scholars have discovered---the Mayan word for "Apocalypse" in fact---translates more accurately as: "Time of pale obese gun monsters."

      by lyvwyr101 on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 12:16:18 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  What I find sad (1+ / 0-)
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        lyvwyr101

        Is that despite that fact a good chunk of the population not only wants no new gun control, they want existing laws eliminated.  And now the solution to school safety for them is to militarize the schools.

        •  They've starved our public school (0+ / 0-)

          system for years.

          Now their solution is to militarize the schools.

          That's truly the final insult.

          What these people actually want is an America armed to the teeth.

          Guns---guns---guns---no quality of life--but lots of guns.

          You know what?

          To hell with them.

          The Onion says----scholars have discovered---the Mayan word for "Apocalypse" in fact---translates more accurately as: "Time of pale obese gun monsters."

          by lyvwyr101 on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 02:02:05 PM PST

          [ Parent ]

  •  am i the only one (2+ / 0-)
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    breathing a sigh of relief that the name Joe Lieberman hasn't surfaced in connection with all of these new initiatives?

    "Kossacks are held to a higher standard. Like Hebrew National hot dogs." - blueaardvark

    by louisev on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 12:01:46 PM PST

    •  Lieberman (0+ / 0-)

      Wasn't so bad on gun control, was he?  At least, his record was pretty decent on this issue.  Not that I'd want to see Lieberman return to the Senate, please no....

      Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.

      by winsock on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 12:14:37 PM PST

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  •  Thanks for the link to tell my Rep what I think. (2+ / 0-)
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    FrankRose, OMwordTHRUdaFOG

    I modified it to oppose the gun control Obama's put forth and removed 3 and 4 (because I want to see those).

    Republicans cause more damage than guns ever will. Share Our Wealth

    by KVoimakas on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 12:03:11 PM PST

  •  This will probably be more like it (2+ / 0-)
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  •  Just in case your Representative or Senator (6+ / 0-)

    (or some gun nut you're talking to) takes your call and starts in with the rant about the Second Amendment or that their right to "keep and bear arms" was upheld by the SCOTUS, it would be a good idea to read Adam Liptak's article in the New York Times detailing exactly what the SCOTUS decision in the Heller casecovered and what it did not:

    The courts have upheld federal laws banning gun ownership by people convicted of felonies and some misdemeanors, by illegal immigrants and by drug addicts. They have upheld laws making it illegal to carry guns near schools or in post offices. They have upheld laws concerning unregistered weapons. And they have upheld laws banning machine guns and sawed-off shotguns.

    Nor does Heller impose any major hurdles to many of the most common legislative proposals in the wake of the Newtown shootings, said Adam Winkler, a law professor at the University of California, Los Angeles, and the author of “Gunfight: The Battle Over the Right to Bear Arms in America.” Among the responses that Heller allows, he said, are better background checks, enhanced mental health reporting and a ban on high-capacity ammunition clips.

    There is a lot more in this article worth reading, knowing and repeating, especially since the arguments in congress over gun control will afford a lot of the crazies in that body TV time to rant and rave.  There is also a link to the Court's Heller decision in Liptak's piece.

    "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

    by SueDe on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 12:04:40 PM PST

  •  Leading from the Rear (3+ / 0-)

    seems to be the Only thing that John Bone-Head
    Actually knows how to Do Properly.

    That and Take orders from the Teahadists, the Koch Brothers,
    Wall Street, the NRA and Big Pharma.

    On Giving Advice: Smart People Don't Need It and Stupid People Don't Listen

    by Brian76239 on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 12:05:58 PM PST

  •  Leroy - Boehner - does not want the ball. (1+ / 0-)
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    I don't think this is Boehner failing his leadership, at least not the leadership as Boehner sees it.

    John Boehner believes his leadership to be of the GOP caucus in the House. Not of the House of Representatives. And not the guy third in line to succeed to the Presidency of all the people. Just of the House GOP caucus, which means the Tea Party extremists and all those who are crazy enough to march with them.

    The Boehner Rule now replaces the Hastert Rule:

    Leroy don't want that ball if it will expose him and his caucus beyond where he wants them to be. It's his deal with the self-made devil.

    2014 IS COMING. Build up the Senate. Win back the House : 17 seats. Plus!

    by TRPChicago on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 12:10:00 PM PST

  •  Who is this "Boehner" of whom you speak? I haven't (0+ / 0-)

    noticed anything he is noted for accomplishing in Washington. Is he a person of any consequence? Or as Otto would say, is he an...

    "They will not collect a ransom in exchange for not crashing the American economy. The full faith and credit of the United States of America is not a bargaining chip."

    by TofG on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 12:11:57 PM PST

  •  While the Democratic Senate works, (0+ / 0-)

    I'll be at Moe's having a smoke and a drink.  --Boner

    The tent got so big it now stands for nothing.

    by Beelzebud on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 12:12:27 PM PST

  •  The Extremely Hypocritical NRA and More...... (3+ / 0-)


    Gun lobby to blame for diminished gun-violence federal research, report says
    January 16, 2013 - Public funding for research into gun violence has dwindled since the mid-1990s, as a result of pressure from the gun lobby, says a new report from Mayors Against Illegal Guns.

    The advocacy group, co-chaired by New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg and Boston Mayor Thomas Menino, released the report Jan. 14 to mark one month after the Sandy Hook school shooting.

    The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention spent an average of $2.5 million per year on gun-safety research from 1993 to 1996, but that fell by 95 percent over the next 15 years, the report says. In 1996, President Bill Clinton signed a law that included a $2.6 million cut to a part of the CDC that had spent that amount on gun-related research the year before.

    That provision also forbade the CDC from using its funding to "promote gun control," though the report notes that federal research agencies already may not advocate for political issues.

    By 2012, the CDC spent less than $100,000 on gun-related research, and the report says public funding for such research now totals less than $2 million per year, less than 1 percent of the amount for motor-vehicle-safety research.  read more>>>

    While the lobbies, gun manufacturers, gun owners, scream about their rights to bear any weapon they destroy the rights of everyone else. The rights of children to safely attend schools, the rights of their communities to safely shop at stores and malls, the rights to pursuit of happiness in going to the movies and on and on and on!

    Mayors Against Illegal Guns: Gun Violence Report

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    by jimstaro on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 12:12:54 PM PST

  •  I'm okay with Boehner (2+ / 0-)
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    keeping under the radar on this issue for now.  Better for him to get out of the way than to stand in the way.  He sure as hell won't lead the way, so this is probably the best we can hope for from Boehner -- and from most of the GOP, for that matter.

    Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.

    by winsock on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 12:21:43 PM PST

  •  Wow! Boehner sure thinks the Senate is superior (1+ / 0-)
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    Matt Z

    to the House. He's always waiting on them to approve things. If he wants to go to the bathroom, does he need Mitch McConnell to help him with that too?

    Just doing my part to piss off right wing nuts, one smart ass comment at a time.

    by tekno2600 on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 12:25:28 PM PST

    •  He's practicing "duck and cover" (1+ / 0-)
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      because he knows no matter which way the wind blows, he'll be standing in the middle of the maelstrom.

      "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

      by SueDe on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 01:01:05 PM PST

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      •  I think he's practicing "tuck and cower." He tucks (0+ / 0-)

        his manhood and cowers away from any decisions. I think he's trying to be an Omega-Male instead of an Alpha-Male.

        Just doing my part to piss off right wing nuts, one smart ass comment at a time.

        by tekno2600 on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 01:56:05 PM PST

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  •  Republicans, as always, leading from behind. (0+ / 0-)
  •  Every time I see Speaker Boehner's face, all I (0+ / 0-)

    can think is...

    Bond Villain.

    Is it really just me?


    "I like paying taxes...with them, I buy Civilization" -- me

    by Angie in WA State on Thu Jan 17, 2013 at 12:25:33 AM PST

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