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We are told that we must come to you now politely and with respect to gain your support or at least your lack of resistance to the new set of laws and regulations that, hopefully, will soon apply to the guns you covet and worship. I for one am in no such mood.

On one day, in one American town 13 times as many people (27) were murdered by gun than were murdered by gun (2) in one entire year (2006) in Japan, a nation of 127,000,000 people. And yet we dither. The warning from the Right is that “they are coming for your guns.” This is partially true (we’re coming for some of them) except that “they” is actually “we,” and “you,” whether you know it or not, are actually part of that we because that we includes family, friends, neighbors and fellow citizens, which is not nearly as nebulous an entity as your favorite bogeyman “the government.” We the people are coming. And you, as a person who may have no respect for government, need to respect that.

We are told that we must come to you now politely and with respect to gain your support or at least your lack of resistance to the new set of laws and regulations that, hopefully, will soon apply to the guns you covet and worship. I for one am in no such mood. Accountability is a big word in your dialectic, and in your unyielding attitude toward gun ownership in America, and in your support of the NRA I am holding you accountable for enabling the gun-available environment that led to the mass slaughter of children in Connecticut, to name but one incident. You will resist this characterization because you are a sportsman or a hobbyist or a perceived self-defender who is merely exercising your 2nd Amendment rights. You are innocent. But you are not. What you’re guilty of is indifference, in the face of brutal statistics (31,000 gun deaths per year in America), to the mayhem inflicted on your communities, near and afar, by your stubborn affection for guns.

“Guns don’t kill people, people kill people.” That is correct. That is why severe limitations on gun ownership and access to guns must be in effect in the United States. The reality of our imperfect and increasingly violence-tolerating culture (if you visited another world and witnessed children entertaining themselves with virtual games of shooting and death, would you view them as peace-loving or something else?), is something you can no longer ignore. That reality, not your connection to times past or to the glowing mythology of guns in America, demands an adaptation and a response to the killing power of modern guns.

This much I know. If I had a tradition, activity or even a need that involved guns, and I saw what guns at large had done to my country, I would gladly limit or compromise my access to guns for the greater good. Not to do so would be disgracefully un-American and insupportable, but most of all selfish. As good, responsible and deserving as you think you are, our society is peopled by many who are hostile, irresponsible, uncontrollable, ill-trained, and imbalanced. Efforts to control or monitor those members of society have and will always fall unacceptably short. That leaves guns as the controllable variable in the American equation of death by guns.

Originally posted to leaning left by Rob DeFulgentiis on Thu Jan 17, 2013 at 03:03 PM PST.

Also republished by Shut Down the NRA.

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  •  The first step. (4+ / 0-)
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    lulu26, allensl, myboo, splashy

    It is commonly held that the first step in dealing with a problem, is acknowledging that you have a problem.

    So America, Your President knows you have a problem, the World knows you have a problem, it is long past time you stand up, take that first step and acknowledge, YOU have a problem.

    It isn't drugs, it isn't criminals, or the mentally ill.  It is not the lack of healthcare nor is it financial insecurity or fear.  These are all symptoms.  what it is is the simple and inescapable fact that you feel that all of your problems can be solved through the proper application of force.  Guns are the most simple and direct method of applying it.

    In all of the world's problems religion has never been the solution

    by Tailgunner30uk on Thu Jan 17, 2013 at 03:56:19 PM PST

  •  Yes! (3+ / 0-)
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    allensl, myboo, splashy

    This -- "You are innocent. But you are not. What you’re guilty of is indifference, in the face of brutal statistics (31,000 gun deaths per year in America), to the mayhem inflicted on your communities, near and afar, by your stubborn affection for guns." -- This is what I was trying to say earlier today in another thread. Every time an innocent is harmed by the guns floating around this country, it is your fault, "responsible" gun owner. It is your fault. Now cut it out.

    •  responsible" gun owner (4+ / 0-)
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      leaning left, Nance, allensl, splashy

      They are classic enablers. They pull no triggers but they enable many trigger pulls by resisting sensible rules restricting access and weapon types.

      •  I'm a gun owner and hunter (3+ / 0-)
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        OldJackPine, BlackSheep1, freerad

        but go through my comment history and you'll see I absolutely loathe the NRA and support a lot of gun restrictions.  I hate paranoid gun owners who consider every discussion of gun laws an assault on their 'freedumb'.  I cried repeatedly after the Sandy Hook massacre.  I was dogpiled in a conservative forum trying to talk sense into those whacks regarding "Shoot First" laws after the Treyvon Martin murder.  Not all of us who like to hunt fit in your box--not by a long shot.  

        Political compass: -8.75 / -4.72

        by Mark Mywurtz on Thu Jan 17, 2013 at 06:25:44 PM PST

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        •  Not all of us who like to hunt fit in your box (0+ / 0-)

          I would like to be more respectful. I have no doubt that there are many gun owners who are disgusted by NRA tactics and POV, and disturbed by every mass shooting.

          But where are you? Where are yor voices? Is there a site of NRA members dedicated to reigning in and criticizing their extremism?

          I'm sorry, I think this holds:

          "What you’re guilty of is indifference, in the face of brutal statistics (31,000 gun deaths per year in America), to the mayhem inflicted on your communities, near and afar, by your stubborn affection for guns."

          You are enablers.

          •  Because I hunt????? (1+ / 0-)
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            freerad

            What level of action would I have to take to no longer be "indifferent"?  What level of action have YOU taken?  What exactly did I do that morally obligates me to do more than you?  Does this apply to every issue?  Are you an automobile owner indifferent to the untold misery we are unleashing through global warming?  Why haven't you organized against the fossil fuel industries?  Why is that a reasonable position for you?

            It's actually pretty damn insulting to call me indifferent just because I own a few guns when I support probably 80% of the gun law reforms that have been proposed throughout diaries and comments on this site.  I support, through votes and donations, candidates who support restricting certain types of weapons.  I'm far from an "enabler" nor do I have a "stubborn affection for guns" and I promise you--while there are plenty of 'gun nuts' to be found--there are also plenty of gun owners who aren't even close.  I have a number of friends who are progressive, anti-NRA, and hunters.  Good thing progressives aren't typically single-issue gun voters, because you're definitely not helping.  

            I wish there were a strong "anti-NRA" type organization for hunters....at least I haven't found it through past searches.  I would be a supporter, and depending on the specific mission, probably a member.  However, to suggest that if I don't start that organization, I have blood on my hands is asinine.  I've rec'd a fair number of your comments in the past--get a grip, leaning left.  

            Political compass: -8.75 / -4.72

            by Mark Mywurtz on Fri Jan 18, 2013 at 04:38:15 AM PST

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            •  It's pretty damn insulting to call me indifferent (0+ / 0-)

              It would appear so.You are exemplary. Though I feel any gun owner has a further responsibility....more so than a non-gun owner. Your need/desire necessarily allows access to guns to a broad population. Many in that population are dangerous and irresponsible and you have an obligation, more than I, to limit the damage to our society caused by that broad population. I don't share your need/desire, but I am affected by it.

    •  Guns don't "float around" (1+ / 0-)
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      Hangpilot

      if you keep them locked up. Lots of people do this, and their guns aren't "floating around" anywhere. So I don't see how OTHER people committing crimes with OTHER guns is automatically their fault. I just don't see it.

  •  major fail (9+ / 0-)

    why is it you can't accept that ordinary people,  including many here at DKos,  own guns,  hate the NRA and share the same progressive goals you do?

    It does the discussion no good at all to stereotype all gun owners as "other" and somehow collectively guilty.

    don't always believe what you think

    by claude on Thu Jan 17, 2013 at 04:33:33 PM PST

    •  It doesn't do the discussion (1+ / 0-)
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      leaning left

      any good to let gun owners off the hook for your role in continuing to normalize guns in our everyday lives.

    •  I have owned guns. (2+ / 0-)
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      alpaca farmer, leaning left

      I am an ordinary person.  I am here at DKOS.  No one is stereotyping 'all' gun owners as other.

      I'm willing to follow everything Pres O wants to do.  

      Why aren't the rest of the gun crowd?

      If you don't share the goal of reducing gun deaths, you do not share the 'goals' of the rest of the progressives, liberals, democrats - or whatever you want to call them.

      If reasonable gun control is enough to make you vote republican, then go do it and leave us the hell alone.

      Democracy, if done properly, is rude, messy, and loud

      by allensl on Thu Jan 17, 2013 at 06:05:52 PM PST

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    •  collectively guilty (0+ / 0-)

      There are degrees of guilt. We have a gun culture. I think it sucks. I'm with Nance.

      I think this holds too:

      "As good, responsible and deserving as you think you are, our society is peopled by many who are hostile, irresponsible, uncontrollable, ill-trained, and imbalanced. Efforts to control or monitor those members of society have and will always fall unacceptably short. That leaves guns as the controllable variable in the American equation of death by guns.

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