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  • We'll lead things off with Rush Limbaugh, who has now said that if only John Lewis and his fellow civil rights leaders had been armed, then the incidents at Selma wouldn't have happened. No, seriously.
    Try this. If a lot of African-Americans back in the '60s had guns and the legal right to use them for self-defense, you think they would have needed Selma? I don't know, I'm just asking. If John Lewis, who says he was beat upside the head, if John Lewis had had a gun, would he have been beat upside the head on the bridge? Anyway, that's what we're -- and these people that think like Brokaw are all over the media. This is the way they're looking at this.
    I'll believe Rush Limbaugh wants to see more black people armed the day he says that Trayvone Martin could have defended himself if he had been armed. But that has never happened. Limbaugh, in fact, spent his coverage of that tragedy only centered around defending his killer for being "overzealous."
  • Yes, I had a heart attack. For those of you interested in what it felt like, sign and symptoms, here's the actual post written while I was having the attack. -- DS
  • Things like this should never happen:
    A homeless man in Chicago was choked to death for shoplifting a tube of toothpaste from a CVS store. Video footage released Thursday of the May incident by DNAInfo shows the store’s manager Pedro Villanova chasing the man, 35-year-old Anthony Kyser, into an alley, pinning him to the ground and throttling him until his body goes limp.
    How on earth can a tube of toothpaste be worth strangling someone to death with your bare hands?
  • Gun appreciation day, sponsored by white supremacists:
    Firearms enthusiasts around the country are being encouraged to head down to their local gun shops on Saturday, constitutions and American flags in hand, to send a message to President Barack Obama about Second Amendment rights -- and, of course, to buy more guns.

    The event is being billed as Gun Appreciation Day and has backing from white supremacist group American Third Position (A3P), Media Matters reported on Friday.

    A3P, which is listed on the Gun Appreciation Day website as a sponsor, does little through its own content to veil the fact that the political movement is dedicated to white supremacy.

    So, how does that reconcile with Rush Limbaugh's claim that the civil rights movement should have been armed? Oh, wait, my mistake. Did I just ask for consistency from Rush?
  • The Daily Best ran an anti-vaccine screed. The deaths that result from this are on their heads, as far as I'm concerned.
  • SPIDERS! First, here's a video of a new spider species that makes decoys. Second, here are some extraordinary pictures and video of of the Peacock Spider in Australia, the male of which puts on an elaborate courtship display with its beautifully colored abdomen.
  • And this weekend, no thread would be complete without some mention of the faux-girlfriend incident at Notre Dame. So here you go.

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  •  Promised Land is already out of Denver theaters. (1+ / 0-)
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    eeff

    I was hoping to catch it today.  Guess I'm waiting for it to hit the discount theater.  

    Was it just not good enough a film?

     

    Before elections have their consequences, Activism has consequences for elections.

    by Leftcandid on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 12:06:56 PM PST

  •  Gun appreciation day, cause those poor oppressed (4+ / 0-)

    and "responsible" gun owners are soooo persecuted, right?

    Not all in the gun Cult are racists, but it sure seems that (just like the Tea Party) all racists are in the gun Cult.

    Then they came for me - and by that time there was nobody left to speak up.

    by DefendOurConstitution on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 12:08:38 PM PST

    •  We don't need that day here in Arizona, because (5+ / 0-)

      we have an Official State Weapon, so it's gun appreciation day everyday! By the way, said weapon is the Colt 45. The bill was written by the Colt Manufacturing Co. lobbyist. He highlighted the important role the Colt revolver played in Arizona history. Just ask Native people about that "important role." Yea! Let's celebrate a gun that helped to nearly wipe out a civilization! Maybe we should have an Official Disease too—smallpox.

      stay together / learn the flowers / go light - Gary Snyder

      by Mother Mags on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 12:21:17 PM PST

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    •  The crowd* down at the Ohio Statehouse today was (1+ / 0-)
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      fairly tame - maybe 250 folks max stretched along the High St. sidewalk in front of the Statehouse grounds.

      Many had signs, a few had typical teabag flags, one guy had a megaphone, and there were a few folks with rifle-type devices (complete with spare mags) slung over their shoulders.

      There were 3 CPD prowlers and one CPD party van parked in the center lane keeping an eye on things, and when the gunners weren't blocked by the city buses that use that corner as a transfer point, they were hollering at cars passing by and receiving a bunch of what seemed to be supportive horn honks in return. Unlike some other communities, it seems Columbus does allow citizens to honk their horns at protesters... at least they did today.

      Overall it seemed quite tame. The signs were what one would expect: hand-scrawled, standard-issue talking points we've heard a million times and which remain largely moot (unless you're an NRA member, apparently).

      Much more entertaining than these paranoid pistol-pointers were the costumed convention attendees down the street at OHAYOCON 13.

      Not full cosplay, not full weeaboo, not full furry -- just a really interesting blend of all three trying to navigate fairly hefty downtown wind gusts and traffic.
      __

      *this was apparently a "Guns Across America" rally, and there are now pictures at that public (Facebook) link.

      Rush Limbaugh: The Lead Paint of Talk Radio.

      by here4tehbeer on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 01:10:03 PM PST

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  •  heart attack (1+ / 0-)
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    As valuable as they are, your posts are not more important than is your health.  Overzealous?  Thanks, but not setting a good example--be well--and relax.  

    Apres Bush, le deluge.

    by melvynny on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 12:08:58 PM PST

  •  What did Rush have to say (7+ / 0-)

    The day the Black Panthers held an armed marched on the state capitol in Sacramento back in 1967, prompting terrified white people conservatives him to pass the Mulford Act, California's first major gun control law?

  •  Is Rush Praising The Black Panthers Now? nt (8+ / 0-)

    There’s always free cheddar in a mousetrap, baby

    by bernardpliers on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 12:09:51 PM PST

  •  What dreck from Limbaugh (5+ / 0-)

    The only time conservatives advocated IN FAVOR of gun control was when they worried about 60s radicals arguing against the establishment from the political left, like the Black Panthers.  There's NO WAY they wanted African-Americans having guns, in Selma or anywhere else.

    And the whole point of the Civil Rights movement was NONVIOLENT protest.  The protesters could never have maintained their hold on the moral high round except by making clear that it was their conservative opponents who were willing to use violence to maintain the status quo.

    And John Lewis didn't SAY he was "hit upside the head.  He WAS assaulted.  And violently so.  It's not debatable.  It's not a question of Lewis says he was, and others say he wasn't, so who can tell for sure.

    For God's sake, there are pictures.

  •  "Did I just ask for consistency from Rush?" (4+ / 0-)
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    CoolOnion, Mother Mags, JeffW, PSzymeczek

    I guess you did.

    It was good of you to ask anyway.

    God be with you, Occupiers. God IS with you.

    by Hohenzollern on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 12:10:38 PM PST

  •  Yes, I'm sure all those armed blacks in the 60's (8+ / 0-)

    ... would have immediately won the respect of all the racists then, and the country as a whole would have then struck down all racist laws forthwith.

    I don't know, I'm just asking. If John Lewis, who says he was beat upside the head, if John Lewis had had a gun, would he have been beat upside the head on the bridge?
    In reality, if blacks were civilly disobedient and armed back then, we all know the National Guard would have been shooting them down right and left.

    And if Lewis had actually shot a white man back then, how fast can you say "a whole brace of revengeful lynchings"?

  •  Blacks had guns in the 60's, they were (3+ / 0-)
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    just hidden....even my grandparents had them. I don't want to go back to the days of hiding them...thanks but no thanks.

  •  I have a Manti Te'o autographed football (3+ / 0-)
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    here4tehbeer, Debby, PSzymeczek

    Signed in invisible ink. I think I'll put up on eBay

    Do I laugh now, or wait 'til it gets funny?

    by WalterNeff on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 12:12:02 PM PST

  •  Geez, forgot: glad you are doing OK, DarkSyde. (4+ / 0-)
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    As someone who has only recently obtained health insurance--& is out of the habit of going to doctors as a result--I'm glad you are getting checked out, & hope you recover as much as you can, including finding a way to ditch the cigs.  

    Before elections have their consequences, Activism has consequences for elections.

    by Leftcandid on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 12:12:57 PM PST

  •  So now the RW is FOR armed civil rights leaders? (3+ / 0-)
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    Hmmm...didn't they try to link President Obama to people in the Weather Underground and other groups like that (and not in a good way)?

    •  That was when they needed to do THAT. This is (2+ / 0-)
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      when they need to do THIS. It matters not one whit that the two are contradictory. It is solely the need of the moment that matters to the rightwing. There is no truth to them, just their needs.

      -- We are just regular people informed on issues

      by mike101 on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 12:56:36 PM PST

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  •  Perhaps Rush should learn what happened to (2+ / 0-)
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    unarmed black men on a bridge in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina - the Danziger Bridge shootings.

    Form follows function -- Louis Sullivan

    by Spud1 on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 12:18:33 PM PST

  •  I thought I was ready for hockey... (0+ / 0-)

    but given that I'm stunningly ignorant about the aerodynamics of skating on ice, I guess I'm prohibited from watching it or discussing it.

    Thanks to President Obama, the Iraq War is Over!

    by Viceroy on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 12:18:59 PM PST

  •  apparently Rush has forgotten that in the 60's (3+ / 0-)
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    a group of African-Americans DID take up his suggestion:

    If a lot of African-Americans back in the '60s had guns and the legal right to use them for self-defense, you think they would have needed Selma? I don't know, I'm just asking. If John Lewis, who says he was beat upside the head, if John Lewis had had a gun, would he have been beat upside the head on the bridge?
    They were called the "Black Panther Party for Self-Defense".

    The white rednecks all shit their pants in terror.

  •  And it's not like it was Villanova's own toothpast (0+ / 0-)

    Form follows function -- Louis Sullivan

    by Spud1 on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 12:22:46 PM PST

  •  Way to really embrace those (0+ / 0-)

    Principles of non-violent social change that we're, toy know, at the heart of the movement J hon Lewis was a part of, Rush ...

    Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

    by a gilas girl on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 12:39:30 PM PST

  •  Toothpaste. (1+ / 0-)
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    Oh my gawd and wtf? Life in these United States is just leaving me speechless lately, except of course for the cursing. My church provides a monthly lunch for homeless and disadvantaged and, as well, we provide personal care items, like toothpaste and socks and lotions and such, because apparently, they can't be bought with food stamps. I've been participating in the lunch part because, well, I love food, but this makes me realize how important those other items are. Two lives lost over a tube of toothpaste. What is wrong with us?!

    An unsuccessful shoe bomb attack resulted in nine years of inconvenience for every flier in the country. It would be nice to think [this diabolical act] might lead to some similar inconveniences. --mrblifil

    by Debby on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 12:51:26 PM PST

    •  I just read (1+ / 0-)
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      tb mare

      the article. No charges filed. Seriously, wtf? An accident is, oh, I didn't see you there, not oh, I chased you down and squeezed my hands around your throat until you quit breathing.

      An unsuccessful shoe bomb attack resulted in nine years of inconvenience for every flier in the country. It would be nice to think [this diabolical act] might lead to some similar inconveniences. --mrblifil

      by Debby on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 12:55:50 PM PST

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    •  this sounds like what happened with (1+ / 0-)
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      Debby

      Trayvon Martin. There are people out there just looking for excuses to cause trouble. The end of the Salon article mentions two killings of shoplifters by Walmart employees.

      These stories need much more coverage - why do Americans feel they can kill anyone at the drop of a hat?

  •  2 people shot at gun show on gun apperciation day (2+ / 0-)
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  •  Spider of paradise (1+ / 0-)
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    Just sayin', re the peacock spider

    •  OH yeah (0+ / 0-)

      (Wondering what kind of music goes with that, too.)

      I think jumping spiders are kind of cute, with their headlight eyes and their colors. They definitely can see people, too.

      (Is it time for the pitchforks and torches yet?)

      by PJEvans on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 01:07:31 PM PST

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  •  Really Rush? (1+ / 0-)
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    Try this. If a lot of African-Americans back in the '60s had guns and the legal right to use them for self-defense, you think they would have needed Selma? I don't know, I'm just asking. If John Lewis, who says he was beat upside the head, if John Lewis had had a gun, would he have been beat upside the head on the bridge?
    Those people who were knocking him upside the head were state troopers.  Not good troopers mind you (or maybe good troopers following bad orders, but I go with the first) but Rush apparently just advocated cop shooting.  That's a nice little nugget to take with me the next time one of my wingnut cop friends quotes Rush.

    “Nice country you got here. Shame if something were to happen to it” --the GOP philosophy to governing as described by Paul Krugman

    by dwayne on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 01:00:12 PM PST

  •  Rush Limbaugh = Black Panther? (0+ / 0-)
  •  I'm getting annoyed (0+ / 0-)

    That not only is the Lizzy Seeberg case being somehow roped into the Te'o saga, when they have absolutely nothing to do with each other, but it's also being completely misreported in the media.

    The author of the NY Times piece states that ND didn't conduct an investigation of the allegations. Not only did they conduct an internal investigation, but they also referred the matter to the St. Joseph county sheriffs department who investigated the matter. In both the case of the sexual assault complaint (touching her breast while alone in her dorm room) and the subsequent 'threat' texted to her, the prosecutors office concluded that neither could rise to the level of a prosecutable offense given the evidence (and just in case you are wondering the St. Joseph county sheriffs office would be salivating at the opportunity to strike a blow against the ND football team). This of course largely happened because Ms. Seeberg was caught in various lies during the interviewing process.

    After her suicide, David Haugh of the Chicago tribune took it upon himself to completely misreport the story in order to slam ND, and despite being corrected by the St. Joseph county prosecutors office, has never issued a retraction. Lizzy seeberg's suicide was an awful thing. And it is very possible that there was a sexual assault that contributed to it. However, unlike say Swartmore College (where I attended school and sexual assault & even rape were often brushed under the rug by administrators), the ND administration actually did the right thing in this case and forwarded it to the local authorities.

  •  Ossian Sweet (0+ / 0-)

    I'm sure Rush would have been first in line to stand up for a modern day Ossian Sweet.

  •  If you ever thought the folks at Red State (0+ / 0-)

    were semi-sane.

    Take a look at this article.  It actually takes a special kind of insanity to construct an alternate universe within which you live.

  •  Rush & Selma: (0+ / 0-)

    ummm.. I know Rush is an idiot but...seriously??? Weren't many (if not all) of the civil rights protests, including Selma, about peaceful demonstrations????

    Next he'll be wondering why Gandhi wasn't armed either.

    Talk about stupidity/pandering/willful ingorance/whatever.

    The word 'politics' is derived from the word 'poly', meaning 'many', and the word 'ticks', meaning 'blood sucking parasites'. ~ Larry Hardiman

    by shel3364 on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 03:08:32 PM PST

  •  My ex-husband is homeless in Chicago (0+ / 0-)

    He's the father of my only child and is grandfather to our granddaughter.

    You don't think my heart didn't jump when I read that.

    God is infinite love. Why is that so hard to understand?

    by Sprinkles on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 04:10:12 PM PST

  •  Reminder for Rush... (0+ / 0-)

    Money doesn't talk it swears.

    by Coss on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 06:44:30 PM PST

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