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To say that I am usually the youngest person in the room when I have an appointment at the VA is an understatement. In the past, Fox was the channel of choice for the folks waiting to see their doctor. I always dread my visits, because in addition to dealing with the pain from my treatments, I have to listen to ill-informed comments by my fellow veterans. Imagine my surprise at what I am overhearing today. More below.

So far I have had to sit in three different waiting rooms and not one TV is set to Fox. Additionally, while there have been comments about the cost of the inauguration yesterday, and the ensuing "tut, tutting" I was shocked when one older gentlemen proceeded to discuss with the others near him about how much the republicans have cost this country through their intransigence causing interest rates to increase. I am not getting into the veracity of his statement, but the fact that the conversation took place at all is astounding to me.

This is a VA facility in a state that is becoming more red with each election cycle. In the past I have had to listen to how "Hussein" is destroying this country, to hearing the above mentioned discussion. I am cautiously optimistic.

Change is happening, slowly, but it is occurring. When the Fox generation is having a conversation about republicans costing this country money and there is no dispute from others in the room, then that is progress. Limited it may be be, but progress none the less, anytime the conversation is about republicans failing to do their job and not on that "Marxist, socialist, fascist, destroying democracy", then we're off to a good start.

I just wanted to share this little bit of good news today.

P. S. I am doing this from my iPad, so my apologies for the lack of quality control.

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  •  Data (6+ / 0-)
    The Government Accountability Office (GAO) estimated that the delay in raising the debt ceiling increased government borrowing costs by $1.3 billion in 2011 and also pointed to unestimated higher costs in later years.[4] The Bipartisan Policy Center extended the GAO's estimates and found that delays in raising the debt ceiling would raise borrowing costs by $18.9 billion.[5]
    http://en.wikipedia.org/...

    Remind everyone that the Debt Ceiling is not a constitutional requirement.  It is a law passed in 1917.  Whatever the reason was at that time, that reason is long gone.  The Debt Ceiling law now is nothing more than an opportunity for a politician to grandstand.  This 1917 law should be repealed.

    Also remind everyone that the Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974 (Pub.L. 93-344, 88 Stat. 297, 2 U.S.C. §§ 601–688) is a law that REQUIRES the President to spend every penny that Congress appropriates.  The debt and the deficit are the fault of Congress, and they must not be able to pass the buck.  (My feeling....we aren't spending enough.  We aren't maintaining our national infrastructure and we aren't training our future workers.  And we're pissing away too much in the Defense Dept. and Homeland Stupidity.)

  •  wow... you didn't read my diary of last year? (9+ / 0-)

    My vet nearly got arrested for unplugging Fox news and making a speech.  LOUDLY...  Down here now, last checked, it was on ESPN.  I did a show with Hal Donahue about it.  The VA knows that contriversial channels are a trigger.  I made sure they knew last year.
    Thanks for the diary.

    We the People have to make a difference and the Change.....Just do it ! Be part of helping us build a veteran community online. United Veterans of America

    by Vetwife on Tue Jan 22, 2013 at 07:18:37 AM PST

    •  I did read your diary... (4+ / 0-)
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      GDbot, Gordon20024, weck, Vetwife

      and I was disturbed by the action of the VA personnel. Their actions were not beneficial to your husband or the other patients. I believe I may have even commented in that diary.

      Eventually, folks like us will be the ones having honest discussions about the issues of the day and not some ginned up outrage propagated by Fox.

      Vetwife I wish you all the best for you and your family in 2013. Keep up the good fight.

      To the world you are one person. To one person, you are the world. They can have John Galt, I'll take Joe Hill any day.

      by p a roberson on Tue Jan 22, 2013 at 07:27:27 AM PST

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      •  Thank you hon and glad that idea may be (0+ / 0-)

        catching on about the triggers for VA patients.   Thanks for being part of that diary !!!!
        You know when I went on Hal Donahue and the VA headquarters had tuned in I understand, I specifically told the story of the Fox deal.  I hope controversial opinated TV can be kept from Trauma patients.   The talk now on TV about guns ...those pro and con...will only stir the vet up.   I hope they are changing channels all over.

        We the People have to make a difference and the Change.....Just do it ! Be part of helping us build a veteran community online. United Veterans of America

        by Vetwife on Tue Jan 22, 2013 at 03:29:45 PM PST

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  •  Wanta help move things a tad further (3+ / 0-)
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    Actbriniel, p a roberson, DaNang65

    Show them the DoD interview video at my diary a tad down the line from this one and if need be remind the old brothers some of what's been really going on the past four years and moving into the next four in regards to them!

    Vets On FLOTUS and SLOTUS, "Best - Ever": "We haven't had this kind of visibility from the White House—ever." Joyce Raezer - Dec. 30, 2011

    by jimstaro on Tue Jan 22, 2013 at 07:43:07 AM PST

  •  It has always been VERY annoying..... (2+ / 0-)
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    BachFan, p a roberson

    To have to listen to the idiocy. I take my dad in for his VA appointments and for years it has been as you note, FOX on the tv and grumbles from the peanut gallery.

    But in recent months the tv's have been on local news or CNN, and the conversations have been turning toward reality.

    Given both the social security and govt pensions most retiree vets are on, and how despicably low active duty enlisted pay is, I have never understood the tendency of military and veteran American's to tilt toward republicans.

    Given republicans are actively screwing you or helping those who are screwing you, you'd think there would be push back. Better late than never, eh?

    Thanks you for your service.

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