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I just wanted to remind everybody here, one reason we lost in 2010 was the deep disappointment in our Democratic leaders for the same type of capitulation to the extremists on the other side that was done again yesterday when "filibuster reform" (bahaha I can't even write that with a straight face) was passed.  Especially after Harry Reid apologized to Udall and Merkeley for being so right and that the next time, doggone it, we will not allow this to happen again!  This deal and the pathetic spin they tried to use later was just embarrassing.

It was depressing to realize moments after that it will be business as usual the next four years.  Meaning nothing is happening of substance after the glimmer of hope we all shared after listening to Obama's inauguration speech...  

I really did try to think of the positives about this, including what happens if Dems are in the minority again, wouldn't this be nice to have?  Blah blah blah...  But I think like many of you, all these "positives" were washed away after today's big news that the appeals court practically neutered the Labor Relations Board for God knows how long and killed any chances that Obama or future presidents make recess appointments with a divided congress...  Not only did we not get rid of the filibuster, but now we will be constantly reminded about how we can't force the senate to confirm any Obama nominations when they hold up all the NLRB and CFPB nominations again.

This pisses me off.  And so I will say this loudly now with as much sarcasm as I can muster: Thanks Harry Reid.

But that's the last time I do that.  I got it off my chest, and I'm done. Because I remember 2010 well, and as much venom as we directed to the weak-kneed Democrats for constantly caving to the nutjobs - things got HELLUVA lot worse when the GOP took advantage of our depression and circular firing squad and took back all the important state governments and the house of representatives by a huge margin.  This is why we got so f@#^ed the last two years and barely survived it.

Note that Obama not only won the election because he was the better candidate; he also won the election because the nutjobs who took power in 2010 were exposed for their nutjobbery.

We do not want these people in power again.  We do not want these people emboldened.  I would gather a list of all the crappy things they have done the past 2 years but I am too tired and I'd be preaching to the choir.  You all know they cannot be trusted to govern.

Please note that the point of this diary is not to defend Harry Reid.  It's not.  Bash him all you want.  Today especially.

The point of this diary is, when something politically bad happens again in the future, such as the GOP filibustering Immigration Reform and trying to pin the blame on Obama for hating Latinos - rather than spewing most of the venom at Harry Reid (which I understand would be a natural response given yesterday), let's all please keep our eyes on the prize and remember who the real bad guys are.  Direct most, if not all, our anger at the ones who actually made us push for filibuster reform, not the one who failed to push it through...  Work just as hard to elect the Democrats in the races in 2014, especially in the state governments, because we can't afford to let our anger at Harry Reid's huge misstep give the wingnuts power over the states.

Remember Scott Walker.  Rick Snyder.  Rick Scott.  John Kasich and Jon Husted.  Tom Corbett. Bob McDonnell and Ken Cuccinelli. Remember all these guys who have screwed our labor unions and our democracies.  Our friends in these states won't want to hear that it was because our disdain for the Democratic leaders on the federal level that made us direct our energies the wrong way.

So "thank Harry Reid" now, get it out of your system as much as you can, then let's move on and fight back against the real jokers.

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  •  Tip Jar (10+ / 0-)

    "If these Republicans can't stand up to Rush, how can they stand up to the Iranians?" - Redmond Barry

    by xsonogall on Fri Jan 25, 2013 at 08:54:38 PM PST

  •  I know you are right, but we missed a chance to (3+ / 0-)
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    sebastianguy99, MJB, TRPChicago

    get things going again and now it's the hard slog.  It is depressing and I'm back to thinking Harry Reid stinks.  I will let go of this soon, however.  you always have to move on in politics or you burn out and get too full of your own ego needs.

  •  Go ahead, threaten us with fears (8+ / 0-)

    Done with "more and better Democrats." Finished. Finito. Better only. Not more. Might vote for 'em if it's a close race; not gonna lift a finger to help. Focus all efforts on "better."

    Reid is a liar. He was all over the press threatening the "constitutional option," or what too many called the "nuclear option," but what was actually just normal operating business for a representative body: approving rules for the session at the start of the session on a majority vote.

    In hindsight, proponents of reform inside and outside the Senate doubt that Reid was ever willing to use the constitutional option to change the filibuster with 51 votes, despite his claims, and believe he used the threat to gain leverage over McConnell.

    “I especially got that sense over the weekend when I had a conversation with [Sen. Chuck] Schumer on Sunday and kept asking him about the constitutional option,” the outside source said. “He got emphatic and said, ‘Harry’s reticent to do it.’ He said that twice and poked me in the chest.” [...]

    “Everything we were seeing led us to believe … that he was very serious about including [the shifting of the burden component],” the source said. “But that all hinged on him using the constitutional option, which I don’t think he ever really intended to do.”

    Can you imagine Reid actually doing the right thing and letting a 51-vote rules package on the floor? No way.

    I am not done with talking about this after today. I'm not gonna lie to myself and to the public. In the long run, you think they're swayed by us shilling for shills, when every time we all get the shaft? No wonder they stay home.

    Conserve your efforts. Get actual decent politicians in office. Don't be a patsy for hacks.

    Government and laws are the agreement we all make to secure everyone's freedom.

    by Simplify on Fri Jan 25, 2013 at 09:12:54 PM PST

    •  Adding, throwing away influence (1+ / 0-)
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      Dallasdoc

      Why would the likes of Sen. Reid ever listen to people pledge unconditional support? By definition there's no reason to. What, out of the kindness of his heart?

      Government and laws are the agreement we all make to secure everyone's freedom.

      by Simplify on Fri Jan 25, 2013 at 09:16:31 PM PST

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      •  Working for "better" Democrats is fine (1+ / 0-)
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        hlsmlane

        Nationally I'm pretty much resigned to the fact that we'll be moving very slowly on things.  I'm not happy about filibuster reform.

        But there's a reason why I used the state governors and SoSes in my diary for examples.  Sure if you want to call it "fear," fine.  But handing the GOP power in the states is going to ruin us much faster than losing a senator or two in DC.  And the state governments are what I'm worried about.

        And as much of a liar as Harry Reid is (he definitely lied to us here about his real desired end game), I just hope he does not warrant most or all the attention and venom every time something bad happens in the senate because of some fool on the right.  The cockroaches need the light sprung on them at all times.

        "If these Republicans can't stand up to Rush, how can they stand up to the Iranians?" - Redmond Barry

        by xsonogall on Fri Jan 25, 2013 at 10:01:51 PM PST

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  •  Agreed (0+ / 0-)

    If we had kept and expanded our supermajority in 2010 instead of losing it, we wouldn't have this problem in the first place.

    Republicans are far more socialist than Democrats. Just because they want to redistribute the wealth upwards does not make it any better.

    by MrAnon on Fri Jan 25, 2013 at 09:52:16 PM PST

  •  Check your calendar, please (1+ / 0-)
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    Dallasdoc

    The 113th Congress has a term running from Jan. 2013 to Jan. 2015, not 2017.

    That will be bad enough for this Senate under the hapless Majority "Leader." Harry "the Weak Reed" Reid may have a fancy title as a leader, but he has shown time after time that he is NOT a leader.

    (As USC management guru Warren Bennis has written, "A manager does things right, a leader does the right thing."  Reid is neither a manager nor a leader),

    So over the next four years, Pres. Obama had better have Air Force One fueled up and ready to fly hundreds of thousands of miles to jet-stop around the country, going over the heads of the congressional Repubs if he wants to get his ambitious second term agenda passed, and to ultimately be judged by historians as one of our greatest presidents.

    Just sitting in the Oval Office and giving an occasional speech is NOT going to be enough.  And if the Repubs don't like this "campaigning," they should pull out their TS card and go see their chaplain (or priest) to get it punched.

  •  Forge it (4+ / 0-)
    The point of this diary is, when something politically bad happens again in the future, such as the GOP filibustering Immigration Reform and trying to pin the blame on Obama for hating Latinos - rather than spewing most of the venom at Harry Reid (which I understand would be a natural response given yesterday), let's all please keep our eyes on the prize and remember who the real bad guys are.  Direct most, if not all, our anger at the ones who actually made us push for filibuster reform, not the one who failed to push it through...
    Reid and other Dems in the Senate are enablers. They are culpable and I will not be joining you in not holding them responsible for their part in this mess.

    Furthermore, your supposition that Latinos would blame Obama and turn Republican is not one I'm worried about.

    Self-described political "centrists" believe the best policy is halfway between right and wrong. — @RBReich via web

    by BentLiberal on Fri Jan 25, 2013 at 10:27:34 PM PST

    •  *Forget it* (typo correction) (0+ / 0-)

      Self-described political "centrists" believe the best policy is halfway between right and wrong. — @RBReich via web

      by BentLiberal on Fri Jan 25, 2013 at 10:31:21 PM PST

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    •  No, remember (0+ / 0-)

      It's a fine idea to elect "better" democrats, but let's not become so critical of the present democrats that we allow a republican to take the seat.  Critize, yes, and put all the pressure on them you can muster, but for goodness' sake, don't let your dissatisfaction with whatever it is you're not happy about lead to their defeat by a republican!

      •  Nonsense (0+ / 0-)

        I will not excuse the behavior of Reid and the Dems that would not back the filibuster legislation.  Here's another good comment

        They had a chance to actually remove the barrier that prevents them from legislating--you know, doing their actual job. And they pissed it away because they like, "tradition", "comity", and whatever the fuck Harry Reid could come up with.

        And now we're going to be cursed with more Dems standing in front of camera on the steps of Congress or in front of the Senate chamber whining about "Oh, we couldn't get this passed because of the naughty Republicans." In reality, they should just SHUT THE FUCK UP. Because they made this bed and they better lie in it.

        Reid, Feinstein and the others actively worked against Progressive, Liberal and Democratic tenets in taking this action. No amount of spin by you, the diarist or anyone can change that.

        Self-described political "centrists" believe the best policy is halfway between right and wrong. — @RBReich via web

        by BentLiberal on Sat Jan 26, 2013 at 02:47:31 PM PST

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      •  And please take your canard (0+ / 0-)

        that anyone that criticizes Democrats loves Republicans and stick it where the sun doesn't shine.

        I'm tired of that shit.

        Self-described political "centrists" believe the best policy is halfway between right and wrong. — @RBReich via web

        by BentLiberal on Sat Jan 26, 2013 at 02:49:09 PM PST

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  •  It was Reid's comment to Ezra that did it for me. (2+ / 0-)
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    “I’m not personally, at this stage, ready to get rid of the 60-vote threshold,” Reid said.

    What? I thought one alternative Harry Reid was pressing was 41 votes to filibuster rather than 60 votes to kill one. According to HuffPost on January 22:

    "Reid on Tuesday presented key elements of his proposals at the weekly Democratic caucus meeting. The proposals include eliminating filibusters on motions to proceed, and an idea proposed by Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) that would shift the burden onto the minority by requiring 41 members to vote in order to maintain a filibuster, rather than requiring the majority to find 60 votes to end a filibuster." (emphasis added)

    Turns out the Majority Leader was diddling us. I'm not going to let Harry off the hook for that act of betrayal.
    Although others are not as gloomy as I am, I think (1) Reid effectively delivered his functioning majority over the McConnell for another two years and (2) many Senate Democrats supposedly backed him because they like the ability to say No! and will someday be back in the minority themselves.

    If anyone thinks handing the Republicans another way to stymie President Obama's agenda for another two years is a good idea, they aren't Democrats.

    That said, I agree. Democrats are better than Republicans almost all the time and we need the House and the Senate in Democratic control, even if our leaders don't always act that way!

    2014 IS COMING. Build up the Senate. Win back the House : 17 seats. Plus!

    by TRPChicago on Fri Jan 25, 2013 at 10:45:12 PM PST

  •  Who for Majority Leader? (0+ / 0-)

    A friend asked me this evening, "Who in the Senate who be a more effective Majority Leader?" and I didn't have an immediate answer.

    And I add to that question, "Of any candidates for the role we would want as progressives, who (realistically) might have support among their peers to be put there?"

    What do people here think?

  •  The Dems (2+ / 0-)

    are not "better" than the Republicans, they're the party that runs interference for their corporate overlords.  It's all an act put out by the corporate overlords.

    Sometimes I think the entire government is just acting out a script, I mean we have to have some sort of opposition so the people of the country can pretend that they still have some power. This prevents actual rebellion, the sheep stay calm enough to be controlled.

    After all they think they have a choice, when they really don't.

    •  Horseshit (1+ / 0-)
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      The Dems are not "better" than the Republicans,
      If you truly believe that then you are no closer to reality than the Tea Party fringe that sees RINO's under every wingnut hairpiece.  
      •  They really aren't better. (0+ / 0-)

        They had a chance to actually remove the barrier that prevents them from legislating--you know, doing their actual job. And they pissed it away because they like, "tradition", "comity", and whatever the fuck Harry Reid could come up with.

        And now we're going to be cursed with more Dems standing in front of camera on the steps of Congress or in front of the Senate chamber whining about "Oh, we couldn't get this passed because of the naughty Republicans." In reality, they should just SHUT THE FUCK UP. Because they made this bed and they better lie in it.

        I'm done with them. They had no fucking excuses.

        The Grand Bargain must be stopped at all costs to protect the 99%.

        by cybrestrike on Sat Jan 26, 2013 at 07:04:44 AM PST

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  •  I have never been so often distressed (3+ / 0-)

    and disgusted with our so-called leaders in the Democratic party as I have been since 2007.

    Before that win, there were loud laughs and tauntings about the Democrats who snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.  That same taunting continues even if nobody is saying it out loud.


    The religious fanatics didn't buy the republican party because it was virtuous, they bought it because it was for sale

    by nupstateny on Sat Jan 26, 2013 at 04:36:13 AM PST

  •  and now Reid is the enabler to allow (0+ / 0-)

    republicans to suck much harder.  And suck much harder they indeed will.

    How is taking a hundred dollars worth of food from hungry kids or from old poor sick people equal to taking a hundred dollars from billionaires? -- howabout, 19 Dec 2012

    by billlaurelMD on Sat Jan 26, 2013 at 07:31:31 AM PST

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