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The political world is abuzz today with the announcement of a bipartisan Senate deal on immigration reform that includes a pathway to citizenship.

But even leaving aside the questions surrounding just how this path would work, Republicans may want to tweak their party platform:

That is why we oppose any form of amnesty for those who, by intentionally violating the law, disadvantage those who have obeyed it. Granting amnesty only rewards and encourages more law breaking.
... and lighten up on their overwhelming support for walking-while-brown laws and opposition to the DREAM Act. All of which helps explain why 71 percent of Latinos voted against Mitt Romney and the Republican vision for America last year and which definitely explains why Republicans are suddenly so anxious to hop on board the immigration reform wagon.

But while we can expect to have Senate Republicans blanketing the airways in support of today's announcement (as the pundits swoon), there's still those pesky House Republicans to deal with ... and of course their brown-hating base. Stay tuned.

Originally posted to Barbara Morrill on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 09:18 AM PST.

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  •  Republicans do not ignore tiny little details (6+ / 0-)

    if said details don't fit into their overall agenda. Not to mention they simply do not have the time to do more than promise more information once they are elected once Rubio whips out his handy dandy immigration reform plan, because they must beat feet to the media before Obama addresses the issue tomorrow.

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    by JaxDem on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 09:31:16 AM PST

    •  But he's a former Senator, so Obama likes it when (0+ / 0-)

      "bipartisan" action can take place, especially in the Senate.

      Expect him to beat up the House by showing an example of "bipartisanship."

      (My "air quotes" indicate the likelihood of anything coming to pass through "bipartisanship.")

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      by polecat on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 09:36:12 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  We need more immigration so that (0+ / 0-)

      immigrants will vote these racist teabaggers out of office.

  •  platforms? Shplatforms! (2+ / 0-)
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    JaxDem, Eyesbright

    There you go again, citing those pesky factoid thingies.

    What we call god is merely a living creature with superior technology & understanding. If their fragile egos demand prayer, they lose that superiority.

    by agnostic on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 09:31:21 AM PST

  •  DOA in the House. Bet on it. /nt (5+ / 0-)
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    a2nite, bear83, sethtriggs, Eyesbright, judyms9

    Happy little moron, Lucky little man.
    I wish I was a moron, MY GOD, Perhaps I am!
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    by polecat on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 09:33:23 AM PST

  •  they're going to make demands dems can't agree (3+ / 0-)
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    melvynny, sethtriggs, judyms9

    on and then they will use a couple of years of invisible (to dems) talk radio work to blame dems for no immigration reform and it will work to the extent it will play into the usual successful midterm strategy to blame all politicians for doing nothing (with many young and new voters will believe like in 2010) to help them suppress the vote.

    This is a list of 76 universities for Rush Limbaugh that endorse global warming denial, racism, sexism, and GOP lies by broadcasting sports on over 170 Limbaugh radio stations.

    by certainot on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 09:35:48 AM PST

  •  If the H-1B visa program updates go through (1+ / 0-)
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    bear83

    .... I hope Democrats would vote against this plan, too.

  •  A few, is it? (2+ / 0-)
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    cocinero, AoT

    I'm thinking they're missing more than a few details. But you may think and feel differently on the matter. Well-written diary here. I live in New Mexico and this is the true land of Hispanics, where we Anglos really are "guests" in this state and the mix of Mexicans and Hispanics is common. I don't complain. Somehow the system works, though I personally think workers from across the border are unfairly treated and paid. But that's just me, I suppose.

    Treat the world (yourself, and others) as part of a living organism. Everyone and everything will benefit.

    by richholtzin on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 09:43:29 AM PST

  •  How does Latino community view Rubio? (0+ / 0-)

    Rubio and Cruz? From conservatives, and their media, I'm hearing that once immigration is "off the table" people will see that they have the likes of Jindal and Martinez and Cruz, and that they're actually pretty immigrant friendly.

    On the other hand, I saw someone here make a point that Latinos are actually natural "collectivists" if anything, and that they'd recoil from you're -on-you're-own policies.  

    Anyway, Sean Trende (the right leaning stat's guy) apparently thinks even nominating Rubio still gives the GOP a mid-30s ceiling at best.

    •  There are two different "immigrant friendly" (0+ / 0-)

      camps:

      1. Where there is a path to citizenship if someone would like to go that route; and
      2. Where temporary laborers are imported and those laborers have few rights and no path to citizenship.

      The second one is important to keep your eye on as the immigration debate unfolds.  Having lived in a country where option #2 was the standard, I can attest to how corrupted that system inherently is and how immigrants can suffer abuses on multiple fronts in a system like that.

  •  Biggest problem is the no-true-Scotsman (2+ / 0-)
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    Michael James, inclusiveheart

    delay in the path to citizenship.  Because there will always be someone who thinks that the border isn't secure enough.

    We are the principled ones, remember? We don't get to use the black hats' tricks even when it would benefit us. Political Compass: -6.88, -6.41

    by bmcphail on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 09:54:56 AM PST

    •  And your Jan Brewers will decide "enforcement" (0+ / 0-)

      There's still a little work on the bill.

      I hope it doesn't move to the right. We'll see.

      I'm optimistic that at least discussion of a permanent legalized but non-citizen class silliness has been mooted.

      Also it's not just illegal immigrants, but I hope part of this si making legal immigration simpler and faster.  Why should there be more than 10 visa statuses?

      •  Will the Republicans cough up the funding (1+ / 0-)
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        AoT

        that is needed to clean up the immigration mess?  That's a huge component of the history of how we got here - the cuts to immigration processing budgets created backlogs, inefficiency and gridlock - as they intended, btw.

  •  Supposedly the whole point of the commission (1+ / 0-)
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    chloris creator

    is for republican lawmakers to claim this isn't amnesty and have rhetorical wiggle room. Although this whole commission idea is concerning, immigration reform advocates(Frank Sharry) who were briefed by democratic lawmakers/aides say the commission isn't going to have the teeth allowing it to actually veto a path to citizenship, but is there to protect republicans who fear a primary. We'll see.

  •  Seeing as how their "base" these days is (0+ / 0-)

    basically the Ku Klux Klan, it should be fun seeing how these equal parts corrupt and bigoted turd baskets try to tapdance their way to obeying Party orders to support immigration.

    Pour yourself into the future.

    by Troubadour on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 10:00:21 AM PST

  •  Perhaps we could stand by for a while, and watch (1+ / 0-)
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    chloris creator

    ... Republicans make fools of themselves, if that's what they're bound to do.

    I'm not suggesting we endorse the proposal, mind you, or keep mum about its worse features, but this does get the ball rolling in ways liberals cannot get enough traction on alone and tees up important themes for action.

    Let's not let the GOP off this hook before they have self-destructed.

    2014 IS COMING. Build up the Senate. Win back the House : 17 seats. Plus!

    by TRPChicago on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 10:00:42 AM PST

  •  why isn't this DOA with Dems? (0+ / 0-)

    As I understand it, the citizenship part could only START AFTER officials like AZ Gov Brewer certify that the US - Mexico border is secured.  We all know that Brewer and her like-minded southwestern US GOP officials will never be willing to certify to that.

    If this "trigger" requirement is in the bill, why isn't this package dead on arrival for Democrats who are seriously interested in immigration reform that includes a path to citizenship?

  •  A little spin and they're home free. (0+ / 0-)

    Just don't call it amnesty. Heck -- they can even trash the crap out of Democrats to get where they need to be.

    Let's see, how could a creative Republican (are there any left?) spin that:

    Amnesty is like a pardon and foregiveness of wrongdoing.  But we have to be honest here...those darned Democrats were setting up speed lanes for people to zoom in from Mexico and take jobs in factories, construction trades, just about everything. They turned their heads at the border, but, more importantly, they turned their heads away from employers who hired these new immigrants.

    The laws were on the books, but those gosh-darned conniving Democrats ignored them.
    So -- if a law gets ignored by the people who are supposed to enforce it, does it really exist?  Kind of like those laws in some places that say you can't tie your elephant up to a watering trough.

    So, all of these people who came -- encouraged by those wily Democrats -- it's not like they were really doing anything wrong. They were just responding to the signals we were sending.

    So -- it's a recognition of the unfortunate facts, and basic fairness not to punish people who did what we encouraged them to do and have gone on to contribute to the country.

    We considered a bill to deport all those conniving skunk Democrats, but our lawyers tell us most of them are US citizens so we'd be spending a lot of money on round trips.
    That would go agains our pledge to reduce the deficit so we had to abandon the idea.  

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    by dinotrac on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 10:10:38 AM PST

  •  immigration issue is a racism/voter ID gimmick (1+ / 0-)
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    go back to katrina in the national talk radio records (if there were any) and it would show rove merely used it to get the base going and to jump start the voter ID/suppression movements. the 'minutemen' were the talk radio base, just like the teabaggers and it worked to pass voter ID laws, get rid of ACORN, stop the public option and suppress the vote in 2010 because the left has no idea where their ass is getting kicked every day nor is doing anything to reverse the situation before 2014.

    dems are wasting their time on this- GOP will just play it till 2014.

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    by certainot on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 10:11:31 AM PST

  •  Right Wing Radio Relies On Immigrant Bashing (0+ / 0-)

    Will be interesting to see the reaction of the buffoons. Will have to come up new topics of resentment to fill air time if they can't bash immigrants.

  •  Did you really just tell anti-immigrant (0+ / 0-)

    conservatives to "lighten up?"

  •  Overheard on the Capitol steps, honest (0+ / 0-)

    Contrary to what you read in the Democrat press, it is fine with Republicans if some Chinaman wants to live here.  We know the Chinaman. The Chinaman  works as hard at WalMart as any white man would, and the Chinaman sends all the money home to his family in China, where they live in huts and assemble bath fixtures for Wal-Mart.  Your Meskin is a different story, being lazy--about the Meskin we can't be too flexible. But between your Meskin and the Chinaman there is a lot of room and somewhere in there we can cut a deal with you Commies.  Here, have a cigar.  

  •  As an immigrant myself (0+ / 0-)

    it always surprise me how narrow-minded the GOP is. Don't they remember we are a nation of immigrants??

    "Onward through the fog!" - Oat Willie

    by rocksout on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 10:26:38 AM PST

  •   I notice that during much of this debate is that (0+ / 0-)

    few (if any) ever brings up the subject (much less the views) of legal immigrants living in this country. It's almost always about illegal immigrants.

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