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We've seen this before out of the GOP. Remember how Rep. Paul Ryan insisted that his budget ideas weren't hugely unpopular because they were bad ideas, but because the Republicans just hadn't figured out how to sell them? It's the same thing, they say, with their problem with minorities. They don't hate them because of their policies, but because they haven't properly "messaged" those policies. To remedy that, they created a special panel and project at their RNC meeting last week.
Zoraida Fonalledas had a lot to say, as well. The national committeewoman for Puerto Rico just didn’t get to say it when she sat with the four other members of theGrowth and Opportunity Project panel, answering reporters’ questions about how the party would regroup. Doing most of the talking were Barbour; Ari Fleischer, the longtime Washington insider “happy to dive right into this,” he told me; Florida GOP strategist Sally Bradshaw, and Glenn McCall, national committeeman from South Carolina.
That's quite the start. Don't let the one minority person on your panel actually talk. Because, you know, the white people can figure this all out for her. Which is sort of emblematic of how deeply and profoundly they are failing to understand their problem.
The plan is for the project to deliver a report in March, but the language of diversity is something Republicans are still getting used to. In his presentation, Barbour talked about the message to be delivered as Republicans look to fill a big tent. “We’re the party of opportunity,” he said. “They’re the party of dependency.” I asked if that’s the most felicitous term to use in a message to loyal Democrats you’re eager to convert.

“I think what we want to talk about is opportunity, the opportunity for people to aspire to reach their dreams whatever that may be,” Barbour said, mentioning strong schools as a common goal. “We want to make certain we’re campaigning in every state in every region to every voter, and we are inclusive. And even if we disagree with you that doesn’t mean we don’t like you.”

It's all in the messaging, in "engagement" rather than "outreach." Because they don't want to actually ask minority communities what policy changes might be necessary to make them a little less hated. That would be outreach. No, they just want to "engage," to tell those folks that the GOP actually likes them, really likes them, so never mind all those actions Republicans have taken that are devastating to minority communities. It's nothing personal.

Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 10:13 AM PST.

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  •  Tip Jar (34+ / 0-)

    "There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning." —Warren Buffett

    by Joan McCarter on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 10:13:59 AM PST

  •  Much easier to blame the packaging (8+ / 0-)

    (and change it, for that matter) than to change the offal that is contained therein.

    And of course, the offal has to WANT to change.

    Happy little moron, Lucky little man.
    I wish I was a moron, MY GOD, Perhaps I am!
    —Spike Milligan

    by polecat on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 10:15:53 AM PST

    •  And the offal is them. (1+ / 0-)
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      Easy to blame everything and everybody but yourself.

      The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. Bertrand Russell

      by accumbens on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 02:37:30 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  A very large percentage... (2+ / 0-)
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      Of any corporation is marketing.  In pharmaceuticals, most money used to go into R&D.  Then they were allowed to advertise.  Now it goes into marketing.  The GOP is a corporation disguised as a political party.

      'Goodwill' between the GOP and the President is as abundant as unicorn farts - Me'

      by RichM on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 03:03:01 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  It's not the lipstick, it's the (6+ / 0-)

    pig that most Rs are.

    Join us on the Black Kos front porch to review news and views written from a black pov—everyone is welcome.

    by TomP on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 10:26:18 AM PST

  •  Are they realizing (16+ / 0-)

    shouting "We Hate You" is not the best way to get someone to vote for them?

    "Til you're so fucking crazy you can't follow their rules" John Lennon - Working Class Hero

    by Horace Boothroyd III on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 10:26:32 AM PST

  •  the GOP even found more voters in NY. (4+ / 0-)
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    cheerleaders need not apply.

    by kravitz on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 10:32:25 AM PST

  •  They're not entirely wrong. (5+ / 0-)

    As long as they stick to lying about their beliefs and the real policies they'll implement as soon as they get elected, they get more voters.  Telling the truth is what costs them voters and elections.

    •  Well, people do eventually figure it out. (4+ / 0-)
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      The immigration issue is a perfect example of that.  The Republicans spent years promising Latinos and others that they would fix the problem and did not deliver.  The rise of the Teahadists in their party crystalized the problem in people's minds, but the Hispanic community didn't need much additional evidence to see what was going on after years of waiting - and years of state bills being passed that were particularly victimizing of minorities and undocumented workers.  

      That's a long way of saying that even when they lie, they do eventually get caught.

      Honestly, I'm trying to imagine an Hispanic person walking into take Barbour's offer of "opportunity" up in a lot of parts of this country - Mississippi in particular - and quickly being able to identify the "opportunity" as a false offer.

    •  It isn't like we forget the Lou Dobbs days (1+ / 0-)
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      when all he had on were Republicans spewing hatred and and he open insulting Hispanic leaders on national t.v.  
      Brown people where carrying disease and spreading it.

      THAT is what they don't understand.

      We are not going to forget.

  •  Ryan has figured out how to sell his "new" budget (5+ / 0-)

    ..Use Dems policies
    Ryans new budget proves Dems solutions work and employs them to support his latest budget – the budget he touts will balance the budget in 10 years - yeah right

    Robert Greenstein of CBPP (Center on Budget & Policy Priority) was interviewed by Ezra Klein on upcoming budget concerns, dissects Paul Ryans new sham budget
     

    Robert Greenstein exposes Paul Ryans  cooking the books and “obfuscation”
     • Ryans new budget includes the new revenues coming from taxes Ryan/republicans fought against (fiscal curb)
     • Ryan also uses currently diminishing deficit to bolster his “base line” projection
     • Ryan uses savings from PPACA (Obama care which he opposed) as part of his budget
     • Ryan disguises his program cuts behind vague block grants which don’t specify hurtful cuts leaving that to states
    Link to full discussion: http://www.nbcnews.com/... Paul Ryan actually admits his  budget’s “new baseline” is dependent upon increased revenue: “now that the fiscal cliff is behind us…” – Ryans words

    And Joy-Ann Reid
    Joy Ann Reid at the Grio: republicans dress up same old crappy policies

    And I don't sense one iota of belief that their core values, that their core belief system needs to change. They just think they need to put more window dressing on it, and find some more black and brown people to say the exact same things they believe. They don't believe they need to change their positions on issues. They just believe they need to change the decoration.
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/...
  •  They see it this way - put a sheepskin (3+ / 0-)
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    over their wolf bodies and everyone will think they are warm and cuddly.

    As long as they are doing their own self-diagnoses then let them keep on self-medicating too.  They are a clown car going in circles.

  •  I'm sure Haley Barbour knows exactly (2+ / 0-)
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    what will be "felicitous" for all ya'll minority folks out there. Ya'll just sit down and listen up and let Uncle Haley tell ya'll about it.

    "Do what you can with what you have where you are." - Teddy Roosevelt

    by Andrew C White on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 11:05:44 AM PST

  •  "Golly, we wrapped this (6+ / 0-)

    shit sandwich in better paper ( debatable) and people are still not lining up to eat it."

    We view "The Handmaid's Tale" as cautionary. The GOP views it as an instruction book.

    by Vita Brevis on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 11:09:42 AM PST

  •  Same thing they did during (2+ / 0-)
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    The election.

  •  Longer they're in De Nile, the longer it will take (1+ / 0-)
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    for them to win elections again on a regular basis.  I hope this is truly their plan because it is pretty easy to address.

    Nothing is as evilly imaginative as the mind of a teenage gamer. -- Sychotic1

    by Sarea on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 02:28:58 PM PST

  •  they just need practice (6+ / 0-)

    it's not easy talking down to the little people without them figuring out they're being talked own to. this democracy stuff is so very trying, for our betters.

    The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

    by Laurence Lewis on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 02:29:37 PM PST

  •  The outreach.... (5+ / 0-)
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    ....isn't aimed at minority voters, but at conservative white suburbanites who don't like to think of themselves as racists.

  •  We'd better hope they don't (2+ / 0-)
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    start listening to any minorities within earshot and changing their policies and rhetoric. They could find themselves a wealth of new Republicans that we thought we had all wrapped up.

    "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

    by bryduck on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 02:36:23 PM PST

    •  Ah yes (2+ / 0-)
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      But then the bigots will stay home.  They are in a pinch here, it'll be interesting to see how it plays out.

      There is truth on all sides. The question is how much.

      by slothlax on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 02:40:39 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  Not necessarily. (1+ / 0-)
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        There is a lot of wiggle room, I would think. Lots of southern bigots stayed/voted D for a looong time after the Civil Rights Act was passed.
        And even if not, losing bigots and gaining minorities = a win; even Lindsey Graham knows that . . .

        "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

        by bryduck on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 02:43:13 PM PST

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        •  Oh, it can be done (1+ / 0-)
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          Doesn't mean it'll be easy.  In fact, I think it will be quite a challenge in the short term.  But our system is not really set up for one or the other party to monopolize power and there is no other way for the right to regain power, so it will happen eventually whether they like it or not.

          Then the debate becomes even more ideological, which is to our advantage in the long run and why the right has embraced the racial appeals over the years.

          There is truth on all sides. The question is how much.

          by slothlax on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 02:47:44 PM PST

          [ Parent ]

          •  I hope you're right. (0+ / 0-)

            I fear that they have created such a large group of high-voting authoritarian followers that they just need to tweak their appeal (real or not) just a hair to get over the hump yet again. And they only need a very few more wins to dismantle decades of work that may not be recoverable--certainly not in my lifetime. Only this time, we have climate change issues that will really mess us up.
            We don't have a long run any more; at least not one that resembles anything we have seen as a nation.

            "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

            by bryduck on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 02:52:24 PM PST

            [ Parent ]

            •  I'm not that apocalyptic (0+ / 0-)

              People have been predicting the end of the world since the beginning.

              There is truth on all sides. The question is how much.

              by slothlax on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 05:50:29 PM PST

              [ Parent ]

              •  Are you denying climate change (0+ / 0-)

                science? (I doubt it, but you never know.)

                "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

                by bryduck on Tue Jan 29, 2013 at 08:17:03 AM PST

                [ Parent ]

                •  No, I'm not (0+ / 0-)

                  And I'm not denying the potential damage it can bring.  But it won't be the end of the world.  Unless it is, then it won't matter anymore.

                  I guess what I'm saying is, if the end of the world is coming we won't really know until its too late anyway, so I'll keep it in mind, but I just don't let "impending DOOM" drive my thinking.

                  There is truth on all sides. The question is how much.

                  by slothlax on Tue Jan 29, 2013 at 12:56:05 PM PST

                  [ Parent ]

                  •  Too bad that most people are like you, (0+ / 0-)

                    because if more people did realize that doom is, actually, impending, we might get some necessary work done. No, humans may not be on the fast path to extermination (we hope), but the structure of our society and our nation itself may well be. Read any of the studies/books regarding water/climate in the west to get a feel for the drastic dislocations on the not-too-distant horizon . . .

                    "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

                    by bryduck on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 11:32:33 AM PST

                    [ Parent ]

  •  This is why they fail. (7+ / 0-)
    Barbour said, mentioning strong schools as a common goal.
    Sure - we all want strong schools.  And for awhile, that message works.  But they way the GOP wants 'strong schools' is to bust teacher unions, cut taxes, gut budgets and 'privatize' failing schools.  Probably by giving people vouchers.  There idea of 'strong schools' is to hand them over to a corporation.

    'Goodwill' between the GOP and the President is as abundant as unicorn farts - Me'

    by RichM on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 02:36:30 PM PST

    •  Exactly (3+ / 0-)

      Their version of "strong schools" is teaching creationism and changing the history books to read how they like. Science and math are ignored in favor of bible studies and abstinence only "health" classes.
      Minorities aren't falling for that crap.

      “We are not a nation that says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says ‘out of many, we are one.’” -Barack Obama

      by skohayes on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 03:08:58 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  ... and no goddam Literature... (2+ / 0-)
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        spawn of the Devil; Mark Twain, Kate Chopin, Ambrose Bierce, John Steinbeck, Anne Dillard, William Faulkner, Gore Vidal, Tom Wolfe, Ken Kesey, Jack Kerouac, Alan Ginsberg, Hunter Thompson, EL Doctorow, Junot Diaz.

        And that aint only the BEGINNIN of the Gawdless Horde of Satan!

        Figures don't lie, but liars do figure-Mark Twain

        by OregonOak on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 04:32:10 PM PST

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  •  They need to be/become different human beings. (5+ / 0-)
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    They need different brains, and a heart and soul wouldn't be a bad idea either.

    They are doomed to fail unless they realize it is themselves that's the problem, not that they have to message/reach out  to/engage/etc. the minorities, women, gays, young/etc.

    The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. Bertrand Russell

    by accumbens on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 02:36:42 PM PST

  •  I agree, in a way (2+ / 0-)
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    There are plenty of women, minorities, and gays who are greedy, selfish assholes.  But they won't vote GOP as long as the haters are actively turning them away.

    There is truth on all sides. The question is how much.

    by slothlax on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 02:36:53 PM PST

  •  Neologism... (2+ / 0-)
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    Should mansplaining be joined by "conservasplaining," or some other new term for the tendency of conservatives to try to explain how minorities and other communities ill-served by their policies really just don't understand them well enough?

  •  GOP self analysis :) (3+ / 0-)
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    Keep knocking yourselves out

  •  If the republican agenda was something the (4+ / 0-)
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    American people wanted, then simple and direct language would be sufficient.

    "Mistress of the Topaz" is now available in paperback! Link here: http://www.double-dragon-ebooks.com/single.php?ISBN=1-55404-900-8

    by Kimball Cross on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 02:41:52 PM PST

  •  Doesn't matter what they say (3+ / 0-)
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    as long as they keep framing it in the "makers takers" spiel.

    Honestly, as a white voter with a heart they do not appeal to me at all. I can't help but continue to think of them as the group that doesn't care if people die. I don't think trying to appeal to people based on color is going to help at all because it's their inner lack of morality and empathy that is the real issue.

    •  You aren't their constituent. (1+ / 0-)
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      voter with a heart
      There are plenty of others out there who aren't like you/me/probably anyone reading this who they can corral.

      "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

      by bryduck on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 02:55:04 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  I guess this means Frank Luntz will be (0+ / 0-)

    trying to find work in Canada now.  Wasn't he their linguist suprema who knew how to sell the GOP's carnival corndogs?  What happened?  

    Building a better America with activism, cooperation, ingenuity and snacks.

    by judyms9 on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 02:49:57 PM PST

  •  Self-diagnosis huh? (1+ / 0-)
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    Self-diagnosis among a group as fundamentally self-aware and with such deeply entrenched practices of self-reflection as the GOP...

    Now, there's a plan with a solid foundation...what could possibly go wrong?

    Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

    by a gilas girl on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 02:52:14 PM PST

  •  FWIW - McCall is African-American (2+ / 0-)
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    It doesn't change the basic dynamic, but it is inaccurate to refer to Zoraida Fonalledas as the "one minority person on your panel". Glenn McCall is black.

    But the ridiculous irony of Citizens Council Haley Barbour offering his perspectives on diversity in the GOP is more than enough to balance out the reality of 2 people of colour on the panel.

    My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we’ll change the world - Jack Layton

    by terjeanderson on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 03:00:30 PM PST

  •  !!! (0+ / 0-)
    And even if we disagree with you that doesn’t mean we don’t like you.
    Um, if you disagree with EVERYTHING we think ....... it does mean you don't like us.
  •  Evolutionarily impossible. (0+ / 0-)
    the language of diversity is something Republicans are still getting used to
    Republicans are too involved in being their own death panel these days to care about such trivialities as diversity....

    Proponents of gun violence own guns. Opponents of gun violence do not own guns. What part of this do you not understand?

    by Liberal Panzer on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 03:06:05 PM PST

  •  Don't see what's new here. It's ALWAYS been image (0+ / 0-)

    for the Republicans. I mean, these guys have basically had the same political philosophy since a conservative party has existed in this country. When have they not stood for white supremacy, male dominance, anti-intellectualism, and religious zealotry?

    It's always been about "messaging," which is Republican code for obfuscating their true agenda and motives, lying and deceiving "low-information" voters in the middle of the ideological spectrum, and at their core appealing mostly to A) a relatively small ideologically pure and rabid base, and B) the visceral fears and irrational impulses of the worst parts of human nature, mainly fear and hatred of the "other" (racism, xenophobia, etc.)

    It's the same party of Eisenhower's era, they were just better at casting the illusion of reasonable moderation back then than they are now. Maybe in recent times they no longer felt the need to anymore...

  •  The GOP believes that all they have to do is... (1+ / 0-)
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    ... to tell lies louder, more effectively.

  •  I remember back during (2+ / 0-)
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    the run up to the election, that I read somewhere that the Romney campaign had one guy running their "Hispanic Outreach" program, Carlos Gutierrez.
    After the election, the guy was "shocked" when he heard Mitt whining about losing to Obama because of all the free stuff Obama promised his supporters:

    CANDY CROWLEY (HOST): You know what Mitt Romney has said. He is talking to a group of donors and talking about the Obama campaign. He said that he went out and gave a lot of stuff to groups that they hoped would vote for them and motivate them. specifically the African-American community, the Hispanic community, and young people…. What do you make of that kind of argument?

    GUTIERREZ: I was shocked. I was shocked, and frankly I don’t think that’s why the Republicans lost the election. I think we lost the election because the far right of this party has taken the party to a place that it doesn’t belong. [...]

    CROWLEY: And you would admit, though, that your candidate said a lot of things seen as anti-latino. You yourself said that they fear the Republican Party, and he was the head of it.

    GUTIERREZ: He failed at that. And that is true, and, you know, the unfortunate part and we were just talking about this, I don’t know if he understood that he was saying something that was insulting. The language, the attitude, the body language, that’s what Latinos watch.

    http://thinkprogress.org/...

    Even their own minority supporters are shocked at the things that come out of their mouths.
    This doesn't bode well for the future of "minority outreach".

    “We are not a nation that says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says ‘out of many, we are one.’” -Barack Obama

    by skohayes on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 03:23:16 PM PST

  •  Mitt didn't really lose the election, either. (0+ / 0-)

    He just didn't adequately explain how to count the votes.

  •  Mad Max (0+ / 0-)

    Imagine, the truth about what will happen if they take over: massive underemployment with no protections. Old people starving. Gas prices, cheap. Sky optional. A Bushmaster in every pot. Abortionists going to jail. Back alley abortions. Continuous foreign wars fought in the name of US (in name only) companies.

    No problem marketing that.

  •  Things must not be bad enough yet... (0+ / 0-)

    since, well, hell, the same fatcats eat a the same trough as last year! None of them didnt go nowhere! Still belly up to the slop.

    It's only when the ranks begin to thin in the Money-Gettin Sector that they may start to take notice.

    Figures don't lie, but liars do figure-Mark Twain

    by OregonOak on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 04:24:28 PM PST

  •  Pretty freaking ironic (0+ / 0-)

    given that the main reason that people have voted for Republicans over the past couple of decades is because of bullshit false advertising about what their policies actually are.

  •  OK, then... (0+ / 0-)

    So what they're saying is that the shit sandwich on white bread they keep serving would be better on a toasted bun.

  •  They kind of sound like religious missionaries. (0+ / 0-)

    Missionaries don't do outreach.

    The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy;the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness

    by CTMET on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 07:01:32 PM PST

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