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We've been watching the current episodes of PBS's Nature show- David Attenborough's Life Stories, concerning the changes in technology & our knowledge of biology & geophysics since the 1940s.

I had a sudden epiphany concerning a possible reason for the increasingly Anti-Science rhetoric & practices of right-wing christian followers, many of whom profess belief in the infallibility of the Bible as the only book of answers for 'life's persistent questions.'

Mr. Attenborough is describing how science has steadily come up with new information to answer historic mysteries & come up with a lot more questions that no one knew to ask just a decade or so ago. For those of us who don't believe the Bible is the only 'book of knowledge' in the world, it's fun & useful to learn new information & even new questions. The ability to apply new knowledge to try to solve problems is hopeful & we often want to help others who are suffering.

The people I personally know who believe the Bible is 100% correct & true on all things, are easily overwhelmed by new information or by having to make their own choices on safe or unsafe behavior when they haven't encountered a situation before. They always go back to the rules they know from their church group, & if new information contradicts those rules or reality is different from what they expect, then the new circumstances aren't valid & should be ignored. The known is more comfortable than the unknown, even if the 'known' situation is abusive or otherwise unsafe.

Here's where the Anti-Science comes in. If something isn't covered by what is believed to be in the Bible, then it is lies, deceit & confusion meant to pull people off the 'one true path.'
They resolve their disconnect with reality by vilifying the messages & the messengers. And they're willing to look crazy to stay on their 'path,' as martyrs are always right in god's eye!

They figure the dangers to others is something that will be fixed by the coming Rapture - the select few don't have to care about anyone else. As long as they don't think, the martyrs will be safe when it counts. Obedient children just do as they're told; thinking isn't desired.

I have a big problem with this 'Mean' Ignorance - it's the stuff of bullying & other abuses, esp. bigotry, racism, sexism, religious rigidity & all the intentional misinformation used to hurt people. There is the feeling of power that comes from telling lies & getting away with it; even the commandment against bearing false witness isn't enough to stop it. Intentional ignorance feels no shame; unrecognized fear is an overwhelmingly common emotion. The Islamic & other fundamentalist groups are similar in thought & behaviors with their own rule books.

Since Big Money is using the intentionally ignorant christian right-wing, I don't see things getting better any time soon, which is too bad for the rest of us. Willful ignorance is both the rock & the hard place. I don't know if we have enough dynamite or crowbars to use in time to save ourselves from them hijacking our country & world.

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  •  Tip Jar (12+ / 0-)

    Something that doesn't make good sense, makes bad sense. That means someone is being deliberately hurtful & selfish. Look for motives behind actions & words.

    by CA wildwoman on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 04:59:52 PM PST

  •  It's sad to see (7+ / 0-)

    But this is the "God of the Gaps". As new information is discovered, and as more mysteries of the universe become known, the god concept is decreasingly required as an explanation. That makes religious folks annggrryyy.

    •  Too many people think 'unknowable mystery' is (4+ / 0-)
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      somehow beautiful or sexy or something. I never understood that - made me turn away from religion as a young child, it seemed like a lazy cop-out for adults.

      Thanks for your comment !

      Something that doesn't make good sense, makes bad sense. That means someone is being deliberately hurtful & selfish. Look for motives behind actions & words.

      by CA wildwoman on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 05:38:17 PM PST

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    •  no, I am religious, and I am not threatened (7+ / 0-)

      by new scientific knowledge.  I welcome it

      Neither are many of my religious friends.  That is because we don't read religious texts as science; we read them as theological statements.

      I find science to be a great help in understanding those religious texts.  So do my friends.

      And when new scientific evidence comes up, one of the questions we ask ourselves is "What does this new knowledge tell us about God?"  

      The right wing fundamentalist types do not look for religious revelation outside of the Bible ..
      and they are only literal about certain things... usually things that make them feel superior to others ...

      but there are many religious people who do find science a help to their spiritual life and religious beliefs .. and we don't get angry over new scientific discoveries

      Give your heart a real workout! Love your enemies!

      by moonbatlulu on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 06:08:19 PM PST

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      •  Sorry (4+ / 0-)

        Meant to say "some" religious folk.

      •  I'm left wondering (1+ / 0-)
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        Why those who accept science as you do are still drawn to religion?

        I do see the value of man's search for meaning and even the value of scripture as  confused moral poetry.  

        But God, the omni boogeyman, simply is not.  Why do we cling to this remnant of past ignorance?  Why are we so afraid to set out alone, and search for meaning in our here and now human world -- the only world we will ever have and the only world we can ever know?

        Labor was the first price paid for all things. It was not by money, but by labour, that all wealth of the world was originally purchased. - Adam Smith

        by boatwright on Fri Feb 01, 2013 at 05:27:43 AM PST

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        •  Important questions everyone needs to answer for (0+ / 0-)

          themselves, as each person's needs & priorities are their own.

          I see the human need for group agreement as a force behind organized religions, & group dynamics are another set of complex behaviors.
          Being comfortable alone is not a usual human attitude, but one that some develop as long as they have a place they feel safe in.

          Seeking comfort & /or safety is a strong motivation.

          Thanks for your comment !!

          Something that doesn't make good sense, makes bad sense. That means someone is being deliberately hurtful & selfish. Look for motives behind actions & words.

          by CA wildwoman on Fri Feb 01, 2013 at 02:01:01 PM PST

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        •  because my Deity is not a boogeyman ... (1+ / 0-)
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          I don't think the Creator is going to punish me .. frankly, I don't worry about the afterlife ..if it's there, well I hope it is a chance to glory in creation ...if it's not, I hope the life I led here leaves this world a better place ..

          There is a lot of good sound moral philosophy in the Bible ... it is the first writing that states all human beings are created equal ...
          There is also a lot of good sound moral philosophy in other writings also ...

          I realize most people(in the west) decide on whether there is a God or not based on the God they were taught about in the Bible ... and when they reject the Bible, they reject the idea of God...
          at one time I did the same ... and what eventually convinced me was science ...evolution to be exact.  All of creation evolves .. and so does the Creator ...I don't believe in the all-knowing God .. the unchanging God I reject... and even more, I believe that our concept of God has to be constantly evolving and we have to risk unbelief to evolve to a better belief ...

          I don't believe in a Deity that makes arbitrary rules or laws and punishes people for breaking them..

          I do believe that in exploring a faith life, I need to be in a community where I can test my beliefs with others ..
          and I think the best community to do that in is a place where the leaders have received teaching in a scientific approach to scripture and therefore can explain these weird customs that existed all those years ago ..

          Last summer, my Episcopal parish had a book study called "Loving the Questions" ... which was on the Nicene Creed, the first 'dogmatic' statement by the Church... at the end of the study, one of the conclusions we came to was that for us today the Nicene Creed is not a final answer, but instead the starting place for more questions ...
          The god of the scriptural literalist is way too small ..no wonder that anyone who can read above an elementary school level rejects his existence.. but those of us who read the Bible scientifically .. well, we are still on the journey to define what Divine Being we worship ...  

          Give your heart a real workout! Love your enemies!

          by moonbatlulu on Fri Feb 01, 2013 at 05:15:49 PM PST

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        •  Science is nice. (1+ / 0-)
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          Science is interesting.  I've always been attracted to science, astronomy in particular (I do a number of astronomy-related blogs), but I also realize that science is merely a tool.  I don't wrap myself up in science as a guide for leading my life because I know that that's not science's role or function.

          I do believe in God; I do believe in the message of the Qur'an (being Muslim).  It is not "confused moral poetry" but provides the guidance I and other Muslims need to live proper lives.  That guidance is based on logical, rational reasoning, although a lot of ignorant people would rather turn a blind eye to that in order to avoid unpleasant truths.

          And, yes, God does exist.  The proofs for His existence surround each and every one of us 24/7/365.  Those who claim otherwise choose to live with a literalist, limited perspective.  I chose otherwise.

          Muslims and tigers and bears, oh my!

          by JDsg on Sat Feb 02, 2013 at 07:53:21 AM PST

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    •  God of the Gaps (5+ / 0-)

      I think that a lot of the animosity of religious extremists towards science, and rationality in general, is caused by the instinctive (and true) understanding that scientific progress is steadily chipping away at the cosmology of most religions.

      Eventually (or even now), what they will have left to claim as their domain will only be the big questions that science can't explain - "why are we here?", etc, and any possible God will be disconnected from humanity and useless to individuals (e.g., "God created the universe, but doesn't intervene, so you're on your own, Kid").

      They know this. It's like, well, I guess it's like the Republicans: they know that demographics are making them irrelevant, so they become more and more frantic and turn to hate and fear and cheating to try to get their way because they can't win if they play fair.

      Another point: this struggle has been going on since before the Dark Ages, and as we all know, the Dark Ages are a historic example of what happens when the religionists win.

      "I don't cry over milk spilled under bridges. I go make lemonade" - Bucky Katt

      by quill on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 06:29:38 PM PST

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      •  That's why I'm scared for future generations. (2+ / 0-)
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        Thanks for your comment !

        Something that doesn't make good sense, makes bad sense. That means someone is being deliberately hurtful & selfish. Look for motives behind actions & words.

        by CA wildwoman on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 06:38:22 PM PST

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      •  There is no contridiction (1+ / 0-)
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        When religious people understand that God is the entirety of the Universe, and not just something  that "created the Universe" but is separate from it; when they understand that the natural world is sacred, they will not be in opposition to science. Science, after all, is just the investigation of the Universe and all of its elements. How can anything that aims to understand the Nature of God be wrongful?

        When scientists understand that the Universe is God, and that the natural world is sacred, there will be no conflict with religion, at least with a religion as described above. Scientists who understand that Nature is sacred will be less likely to produce Genetically Modified Organisms, formulate toxic chemicals, or develop nuclear power.

        The Bible of course is another thing. It's full of stories and explanations of the Universe that are in contradiction to many scientific facts, at least if read literally.

        Look up "Pantheism" for a further explanation of the ideas above.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/...

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      •  Science is chipping away at the cosmology of (2+ / 0-)
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        Creationist Christians, Jews, and Muslims, but not of other Christians, Jews, or Muslims, and not of Buddhists, Hindus, Sikhs, Daoists, Shintoists, or anybody else. I know of no other religions but these subsets of these three that posit an irresolvable conflict between themselves and science. Please do not accept the Fundamentalists' frame that tries to treat everybody else as either irrelevant or evil or both.

        It turns out that we are winning, particularly among Christians in the US. Their children are falling away at a rate that is alarming to them (as documented by one of their own in The Incredible Shrinking Church), and should be greatly encouraging to everybody else. It is true that the Faithful Remnant is going to get louder and nastier the closer it gets to political irrelevance, but that day is coming, even in darkest Mississippi. Similarly for Global Warming, even in Oklahoma (where there are no rising oceans or melting ice, and oil is by far the largest industry). Maybe even for Voodoo Economics.

        Gerrymandra delenda est

        by Mokurai on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 10:08:38 PM PST

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        •  Fundamentalist framing is abusive to others & (0+ / 0-)

          is their greatest weakness. They know they are thought of as irrelevant & that's what angers them the most, I think.

          Global Warming is going to prove that the science was right, but by then it's too late for most of us.
          And Voodoo Economics can only be believed by people who base their life decisions on 'faith' as it makes no logical sense.

          Thanks for your comment !!

          Something that doesn't make good sense, makes bad sense. That means someone is being deliberately hurtful & selfish. Look for motives behind actions & words.

          by CA wildwoman on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 11:00:28 PM PST

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  •  Evangelicals Have Been Like This All Our Lives, (8+ / 0-)

    and because they are so accepting of the authority of the rich, they were recruited into the rightwing revolution some time around the late 60's to be a major part of the rightwing populist base. Their first visibility to most Americans was when they got the nomination for Reagan.

    They're authority driven, they believe in the constant interaction with the supernatural in their daily lives, and in the ease of knowing the mind of the living God, and in the absolute literal truth of the tiny selection of Biblical passages they like that support the authoritarianism, suppression of womens' rights, sex phobias and imperialism that they share with fundamentalism of other religions.

    You've pretty well nailed it. People, institutions and ideas are either of their tribe or else against them.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 05:33:06 PM PST

    •  I agree - I thought of several historical (5+ / 0-)
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      precedents while writing this, but opted for brevity.

      I started paying attention to politics just about the time of Reagan & found out about the Republican lie machine when the Iran hostages were freed. I was totally disgusted & never trusted the Republicans again. The fact that so many of the 'moral majority' didn't have any problems with them was / is scary.

      Thanks for your comment !

      Something that doesn't make good sense, makes bad sense. That means someone is being deliberately hurtful & selfish. Look for motives behind actions & words.

      by CA wildwoman on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 05:46:05 PM PST

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  •  rather insightful (5+ / 0-)

    and far more charitable than i'd probably be ...

    but yeah -- i'm in full agreement that for many, the chance to have ambiguity and uncertainty forever vanquished (just so long as you do NOT question a thing of it) is a source of comfort for many.

    me, the world is entirely in shades of grey. and i wear ambiguity like a comfy old sweater.

    "i hear you're mad about brubeck ... i like your eyes. i like him too." -donald fagen

    by homo neurotic on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 05:36:37 PM PST

    •  Thanks. I see it as they don't want to be (4+ / 0-)
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      responsible for anything they don't understand.

      I see them beating their heads on the same rocks over & over again without solving any of the rocky problems we all have in the real world. One answer doesn't work for most problems.

      I don't appreciate them trying to beat my head against the rocks, too.

      Something that doesn't make good sense, makes bad sense. That means someone is being deliberately hurtful & selfish. Look for motives behind actions & words.

      by CA wildwoman on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 05:53:00 PM PST

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      •  agree in full. and here's what gets my goat... (4+ / 0-)
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        to preface: i do not intend to denigrate religion, or those who practice one, very much in spite of my ability to pop off in a manner that suggests otherwise. i consider myself agnostic.

        but i just can't get around the notion that if there actually were a creator / divine force, surely he/she/it would have given us the capacity to use these big delicious brains of ours to think independently.

        the insistence upon taking a centuries-old, heavily redacted, multiply translated text as unquestionable, flawless truth has far less to do with any divine forces that may exist, and far more with church-as-political-institution and the control it aims to keep exerting.

        "i hear you're mad about brubeck ... i like your eyes. i like him too." -donald fagen

        by homo neurotic on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 06:10:10 PM PST

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  •  I'm a Christian. I go to church every Sunday (8+ / 0-)

    It sounds like you're mainly talking about evangelicals and those that believe in the literal interpretation of the bible.  I agree with that.  

    I just want to make sure you know we're not all batshit crazy.  Ha!   I believe in science.  I like the wisdom of the bible.  The sense of community I get from the church is important to me.  I like making dinners for those that need them from time to time.  Yadda yadda.

    There are many liberal churches out there that believe in equal rights for the LGBT community. Lots of acceptance.   I don't know anyone from my church who doesn't believe in evolution.  But, maybe I haven't met enough of them!   I'm sure they're out there.

    I like your diary.  I just don't want you to think we're all nuts.

    Jimmy Carter is an evangelical.  That give me hope sometimes.    

    "If the misery of the poor be caused not by the laws of nature, but by our institutions, great is our sin." Charles Darwin

    by Rockydog on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 05:57:48 PM PST

    •  Oh. When I said "I agree with that," (3+ / 0-)
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      I meant your take.  I don't want you to think I agree with the literal interpretation of the bible.  Whoops.

      "If the misery of the poor be caused not by the laws of nature, but by our institutions, great is our sin." Charles Darwin

      by Rockydog on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 05:59:57 PM PST

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      •  It's the closed-mindedness of Literal-ism & (3+ / 0-)
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        hypocrisy of 'fundamentalists' that I have trouble with.

        I know the majority of christians aren't anti-science.

        It's the ones that want to work for, or wait for, the Rapture & use political powers to drag us all with them that I don't like.

        Something that doesn't make good sense, makes bad sense. That means someone is being deliberately hurtful & selfish. Look for motives behind actions & words.

        by CA wildwoman on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 06:25:13 PM PST

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        •  I was watching a documentary (3+ / 0-)
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          On netflix.  One of the religious scholars said the literal interpretation of the bible has only been around for a hundred years or so.   That's not very long.  I wish we'd go back to the first 1900 years.  Well, at least in that way.  

          "If the misery of the poor be caused not by the laws of nature, but by our institutions, great is our sin." Charles Darwin

          by Rockydog on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 06:30:24 PM PST

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          •  The bible & other religious texts didn't have (3+ / 0-)
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            much real competition before our current scientific era.

            They spent their time arguing interpreted details, not the validity of the book to their known world. This is probably the first time the difference between facts & faith has occurred in a big way.

            Something that doesn't make good sense, makes bad sense. That means someone is being deliberately hurtful & selfish. Look for motives behind actions & words.

            by CA wildwoman on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 06:45:30 PM PST

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          •  Oh, and Thanks for your comment ! (3+ / 0-)
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            Something that doesn't make good sense, makes bad sense. That means someone is being deliberately hurtful & selfish. Look for motives behind actions & words.

            by CA wildwoman on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 06:46:10 PM PST

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          •  Quite (1+ / 0-)
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            the Church of England actually welcomed "The Evolution of Species by Natural Selection" because it showed, in their terms, the mechanism God used.

            It was only later and, I am afraid mostly starting in the USA, that anti-Darwinism became fashionable. Guess that's what you get from not having an established church that virtually nobody goes to.

            "Who stood against President Obama in 2012?" - The trivia question nobody can answer.

            by Lib Dem FoP on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 10:04:57 PM PST

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  •  I'm a science geek, (1+ / 0-)
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    and have been forever. But I've experienced things that have no discernable rational explanation. (Note I didn't say "supernatural.")

    Where science meets the unknown (or unknowable), there is room for  speculation, imagination and wishful thinking. Unlike the "Thumpers," however, I am perfectly comfortable unanswered questions.

    Some folks want to fill in all the gaps in their knowledge, and the Bible is really good at that--no matter that much of it is demonstrably inaccurate.

    I choose to use the Bible as a guidebook to the human condition: jealousy, lust, heroism, avarice, courage, loss, resolve, betrayal, sacrifice (and, yes, mysticism, "the unknown" and even dumb luck)--all these eternal characteristics of humanity and more are addressed within, and can be an excellent resource in a person's search for some understanding of what it means to be a sentient being.

    Now we find ourselves in the 21st Century, with common access to a truly astonishing level of scientific and technological knowledge. And where such technology tends to incrementally dehumanize us, the Bible can be a useful tool for those seeking insight regarding what it means to be a human being.

    Any further use seems to be quaint at best.

    There are two types of Republicans: millionaires and suckers.

    by Phil T Duck on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 09:02:31 PM PST

    •  I agree with most of your comment, except that I (0+ / 0-)

      don't agree that 'technology tends to incrementally dehumanize us,' as humans are especially capable of creating & using technology.

      That doesn't mean technology is Good or Bad - it just Is.

      There are also other books just as useful for researching the human condition & consciousness.

      Thanks for your comment !

      Something that doesn't make good sense, makes bad sense. That means someone is being deliberately hurtful & selfish. Look for motives behind actions & words.

      by CA wildwoman on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 09:15:55 PM PST

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  •  Howard Bloom "The God Problem" (1+ / 0-)
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    Howard Bloom is a very smart man.  A genius even, who reconciled with himself that he was an atheist at 13 y/o.  In "The God Problem, How A Godless Cosmos Creates", PhD Howard spends 563, fascinating, well reasoned, pages explaining how the universe continues to evolve from very simple principles.  His reasoning is impeccable, logical and scientific and he covers so much ground that I'm in the process of reading it again which is something Yellowdog just doesn't do.  

    So here's the kicker.  If Blooms line of argument is 100% rational and factually accurate.  If the universe was not "created" but continues to create itself as an evolutionary process though simple principles that are inherent from the very instant that it sprang into being in the big bang, which as he points out was neither big nor a bang.  If it's all 100% certified scientifically accurate and I have no argument with the line of reasoning, then he still admits to an itty bitty problem.  Can you guess what it is?

    OK times up.  He admits that he doesn't know where the "simple principles" that he calls "Ur Patterns" come from and  how or why they are inherent in the universe.  

    The not so mysterious ending is that he came to be an atheist at 13 and worked backwards from there to "prove" that he was a smarter kid than you and that he was correct all along.  ( That isn't a put down.  If you read the book you'll get this self-deprecating humor that he uses a lot.)  

    The problem of course is that he also made the exact case for the religion of Jefferson: Deism.  That God made the universe and set the rules then went away to play in another playground.   That this universe wasn't created whole and perfect all at once but continues to evolve which is constant with everything we reasonably know today.  God has or had "it's" reasons for doing so and may or may not come back for some kind of end times reunion party.  Deism vs Theism

    Or you can read the book and discover why A does not = A and 1+1 does not = 2, and have your own ah ha moment and decide that you are correct in your godless beliefs.  Both of which would be entirely correct.  

    A bad idea isn't responsible for those who believe it. ---Stephen Cannell

    by YellerDog on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 10:20:20 PM PST

    •  Not the same, but interesting to me, is the story (0+ / 0-)

      God's Debris by Scott Adams. It's available free on the web & is an easy read.

      I like that there are multiple ways of thinking about the creation of the Universe & all the wonderful diversity in it. I don't think we'll ever know everything, but that doesn't invalidate what we do learn from scientific research.

      Despite the usual translation of the biblical story of Genesis, I don't think that the Fruit of Knowledge is sinful or evil - how people use knowledge attaches the humanistic values.

      Thanks for your comment !!

      Something that doesn't make good sense, makes bad sense. That means someone is being deliberately hurtful & selfish. Look for motives behind actions & words.

      by CA wildwoman on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 11:17:54 PM PST

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  •  Kant settled this matter in 1781, when his (2+ / 0-)
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    Critique of Pure Reason was published.

    The scope of religion is restricted to the transcendent realm—that which is beyond experience—and everything else has its appropriate non-religious domain: science, law, politics, art, and so on.

    So people who think that there is a conflict between the Bible and science are culturally illiterate (specifically, they refuse to accept the advances that society made with the Enlightenment).

  •  The search for knowledge is sin (1+ / 0-)
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    Let us remember the story of the Garden of Eden.  Adam and Eve were thrown out because they questioned--ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.  To a fundamentalist--and to a "real" Republican--the search for knowledge is indeed sin and to be shunned.

    Old Hippies Never Give Up!

    by ravenrdr on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 11:38:25 PM PST

  •  The fascinating part of scientific discovery, (1+ / 0-)
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    is that the more we learn about our universe, the more we realize how little we know.  For example, researchers initially thought that sequencing the entire human genome would be the key to unlocking the mysteries of our own species.  However, after the completion of the Human Genome Project, scientists were left with even more unanswered questions, and now many hypothesize that the proteome, all of the proteins that our genome codes for will be more critical.  And we're only one species out of billions on this one tiny planet surrounding a star in a galaxy with billions of other stars that are part of a galaxy that's part of likely billions of other galaxies in our universe.  We will never have an answer to everything.  

    I view the bible as "truths seen through a very small lens".  People back then were trying to answer some of the same questions that we have now: "who are we?"  "where did we come from?"  They were just using different tools, and had a much smaller world-view than we do now.  It's like when you zoom in on a picture so close that you can only make out the individual pixels, and try to guess what the picture is.  We've "zoomed out" a bit in the past 2000 years, so we have a slightly clearer picture now- so it's easy to criticize our ancestors for being "wrong".  It'll be interesting to see what our descendents have to say about us and our world views in another 2000 years.  If our species is still around, I imagine we'll still be asking some of the same questions.  

    •  You seem to be more hopeful than I that our (1+ / 0-)
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      descendants will have any information about us at all.

      If climate change is as extreme as predicted on continuing our present practices, the world will be very different & may not be so hospitable for humans & a lot of species we depend on now for food, etc..
      The longer the fundamentalists & plutocrats are allowed access to gross amounts of money & political power, the worse the future looks.

      I hate 'apocalyptic future' stories & movies as the suffering portrayed is awful.

      Thanks for your comment !!

      Something that doesn't make good sense, makes bad sense. That means someone is being deliberately hurtful & selfish. Look for motives behind actions & words.

      by CA wildwoman on Fri Feb 01, 2013 at 12:53:17 AM PST

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