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More and more information, that should have been widely reported all along is being so with ever growing actions taken, studies, research and actual public and private collaborative help, have been finally coming into the light of day these past few years that should always have been. Especially in these modern times past to present and the invasions and long occupations by the few who serve the Country.

One huge area, but they all are for those that have served, is the information on active Military and the Veterans community suicides. Being reported like it's a shock it's taking place and never before did. The country that refuses to Sacrifice, though finds it very easy to wave flags and use words and symbols of their patriotism, especially this past decade plus and it's two more long occupations, added to the previous decades and wars of and the treasury deficits, are now shown what they've easily ignored, many doing today, when the soldier comes home.


Active duty and Veterans Suicides, Post Traumatic Stress, Traumatic Brain Injuries, Sexual Trauma, the Agent Orange vets, the Desert Storm Gulf War Syndrome vets, the Homeless Veterans, Chemical Warfare Agent Experiments and oh so so much more.

22 veterans commit suicide each day: VA report
1 February 2013 - An estimated 22 veterans committed suicide in America each day in 2010, according to a report released Friday by the U.S Department of Veterans Affairs.

That rate has edged higher from 1999 when an estimated 20 veterans took their lives every day, the report noted. In 2007, the veteran suicide pace temporarily dipped to 18 per day.

Nearly 70 percent of all veteran suicides were among men and women aged 50 or older, the VA said.

"The mental health and well-being of our courageous men and women who have served the nation is the highest priority for VA, and even one suicide is one too many,” VA Secretary Eric K. Shinseki said in a news release. “We have more work to do and we will use this data to continue to strengthen our suicide prevention efforts and ensure all Veterans receive the care they have earned and deserve.”

The report notes that while the numbers of veterans who die by suicide each day "has remained relatively stable over the past 12 years," the overall percentage of people who die by suicide in America who are veterans has decreased slightly. The share of all suicides reported as "veterans" on state-issued death certificates was 25 percent in 1999 versus slightly more than 20 percent in 2010, according to VA researchers.

"This provides preliminary evidence that the programs initiated by VA are improving outcomes," read an accompanying "executive summary" signed by Dr. Robert A. Petzel, the VA's under secretary for health. "As long as veterans die by suicide, we must continue to improve and provide even better services and care."  read more>>>

Depart. of Veterans Affairs Suicide Data Report, 2012

'Freedom Is {absolutely} Free' for a country when only the few actually Sacrifice, the military personal, their families and the military veterans after they return and join the community of, and especially In Theater Military Troops and Veterans of.

It is easier to carry reports far and wide with the technologies today, but national media has been around for much of our history as a society and this technology didn't just happen in the past couple of years nor the means in using it.

Originally posted to DKos Military Veterans on Sat Feb 02, 2013 at 05:07 AM PST.

Also republished by VAGV - Veterans Against Gun Violence.

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  •  Tip Jar (18+ / 0-)

    Vets On FLOTUS and SLOTUS, "Best - Ever": "We haven't had this kind of visibility from the White House—ever." Joyce Raezer - Dec. 30, 2011

    by jimstaro on Sat Feb 02, 2013 at 05:07:22 AM PST

  •  Thank you for this, Jim (8+ / 0-)

    Yes, we're all so good at waving the flag as the parades go by.

    We're just invisible when it comes to actually having the courage to understand the costs of war to those we send to fight, their families, and communities.

    War casts a long, deep, shadow that affects generations.

    And yet we have people in Congress who apparently think that boots on the ground in Syria or Iran is a great idea.

    The next chest thumping chicken hawk advocating for war should be immediately put on a plane, given a parachute, and then dropped into whatever conflict they think we should be hurrying into.

    I'm so sick of them sending our sons and daughters off to war only to betray them yet again when they return home.

    "Compassion is not weakness, and concern for the unfortunate is not socialism." Hubert H. Humphrey

    by Onomastic on Sat Feb 02, 2013 at 05:23:32 AM PST

  •  I was looking at this last night. (8+ / 0-)

    Glad to see it diaried already this morning. For those readers unwilling to wade through the depths of a full fledged bureaucratic report, there's a VHA Response and  Executive Summary, by Robert A. Petzel, M.D., Under Secretary for Health here. It's more concise, giving the VHA's spin on the data in bullet point style.

    For those unfamiliar with the acronym, VHA is the Veterans Health Administration, one of the two major divisions of the VA, particularly the one which administers the health care system.

    The Veterans Benefits Adminstration (VBA) administers compensation and pensions, and is the side of the VA plagued with the notorious case backlog.

    “Perhaps the most 'spiritual' thing any of us can do is simply to look through our own eyes, see with eyes of wholeness, and act with integrity and kindness.” Jon Kabat-Zinn

    by DaNang65 on Sat Feb 02, 2013 at 05:28:16 AM PST

    •  This Whole Past Decade Plus (3+ / 0-)
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      I've kept in my mind, especially as to how all this was carried out then left to others to try and clean up the damage done, Thanks Hillary for just one front lined in doing by the position held as to that American standing and the depth the country sunk, is as to us Veterans how much could have been accomplished, possibly stopping what happened, if we'd had this technology way back and especially been taught in where we didn't have to teach ourselves to use it effectively.

      As to the Military and Veterans community of comes along, finally, at least one government agency that puts us front and center but with tons of other extremely important issues to be concentrated on and with this one left on that same table with the present long occupations, the Executive branch, it's Cabinet and all those around them.

      All the links above and information, along with actions on each, are from these past few years and for public consumption  not just for us veterans, of a non political, finally, veterans administration that still is grossly under funded especially as veterans of two more wars are added to the veterans community and those of us from the previous decades and wars of.

      Vets On FLOTUS and SLOTUS, "Best - Ever": "We haven't had this kind of visibility from the White House—ever." Joyce Raezer - Dec. 30, 2011

      by jimstaro on Sat Feb 02, 2013 at 06:04:34 AM PST

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      •  What goes on at the VA is definitely not just (5+ / 0-)

        for veterans. I was just writing yesterday in another forum about my take on an article about a new VA acquisition program.

        The Military Community Members of Daily Kos (MCM) have a googlegroup conversation going about putting together a panel for NN14. Yesterday I wrote

        As an illustration of my point of how I believe an MCM panel could be useful and informative for the larger Progressive community, again as a leader at the cutting edge of 21st Century health care, test driving what eventually will be America's national health care system on the VA's dime, please consider the following article: http://www.federalnewsradio.com/....

        It seems like a boring read about a new economic model for purchasing innovation in IT, and of course it is. From my perspective it's exciting not only because the VA is pioneering a different procurement model for governmental services, replacing the too often abused 'government foots the bill for R&D to meet
        Military Specifications (mil specs), however insane the R&D costs and the mil specs themselves might be,' with a 'bring me a system that works, that you developed on your dime, and I'll give you a bonus.' model , but because of the barely stated superiority of the VistA computerized health care software that it deals with.

        I've long held that the single most magnificent aspect of VA health care is the computerized system which allows any and every practicioner in the system to pull up a veterans complete VA health care records from any VA provider terminal in the country. If I'm travelling to Florida, say, as I will next week, and have to be rushed to a local VA the providers will have twenty years of my records, every test, every surgery, every x-ray, every office visit, complete with office notes. No more guessing, or trying to remember, or just plain forgetting this or that.

        The provider has a complete picture of every single visit I've made to any VA anywhere to understand my medical history. Ever time I pee in the cup, or have blood drawn, or have my blood pressure taken, or my temperature, or get weighed - it's all there as data points on easy to understand line graphs which illustrate trends to even the untrained eye. Comparing changes in the slopes of a line, for example, against medication changes provides the surest way I can see to establish what does and doesn't work for me. Prescribers have the guesswork minimized.

        I could rave on and on about how great this system is, but what I like best about it, from a Netroots Nation panel point of view is that the VA gives the system away free as open source software! Pure economics demands that other health care systems, when they finally decide to revamp whatever clunker they're currently going with, can't afford to look this tried and tested gift horse in the mouth.

        Which illustrates what I believe is a hidden virtue of the VA system, and why I believe all Progressives would and should be very interested in this pioneering socialized medicine (ooh, did I write that?). And why we, the Military Community Members of Daily Kos, are relevant to the Netroots Nation audience and the wider Progressive community, and why we should get a panel for NN14.

        Quite obviously I believe that what happens at the VA doesn't necessarily stay at the VA. There are other important initiatives that place the VA self-conciously in the vanguard of 21st Century health care. Every citizen, especially every Progressive should be aware of what goes on in the bowels of that bureaucracy.

        In case anyone is interested in joining the MCM googlegroup conversation which is focused on a NN14 panel right now, please send a kosmail to the MCM group.

        “Perhaps the most 'spiritual' thing any of us can do is simply to look through our own eyes, see with eyes of wholeness, and act with integrity and kindness.” Jon Kabat-Zinn

        by DaNang65 on Sat Feb 02, 2013 at 06:40:33 AM PST

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        •  One Thing About the Military & Veterans (5+ / 0-)

          Is it eventually comes into the public sector, many issues from, sadly though from within the wars cheered on and are of choice, Afghanistan became so as the country abandoned with cheers as the drum beats grew and pointed at Iraq.

          But issues like PTS should have been recognized and not ignored, let alone a few made good livings off of falsely debunking in saying it doesn't exist and for years doing so, as finally it's now recognized in the private sector and always was there.

          Vets On FLOTUS and SLOTUS, "Best - Ever": "We haven't had this kind of visibility from the White House—ever." Joyce Raezer - Dec. 30, 2011

          by jimstaro on Sat Feb 02, 2013 at 06:51:04 AM PST

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          •  I really worry (2+ / 0-)
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            about these folks who have deployed over and over. My experience with Vietnam vets and I have a ton having been married to one who was an amazingly social dude the ones who struggled the most, amoung his friends, 20 years later were the ones who did more than one tour. My husband was one of them.

            There were more than a few who killed themselves because at some point I think they simply became exhausted from the effort of trying to live day to day life with PTSD. It took many of them a amazing amount of energy just for them to do alot of the things the rest of us take for granted.

            The ones who seemed the most successful at living with it were ones who found something that occupied their whole mind for long periods of time. My husband built motorcycles and played gutiar. One of his friends cooked. Another was a stained glass artist. All of them excelled at what they did. All of them simply said what they were doing calmed them down.

            Living in a rural area I am seeing the same thing that went on after vietnam. I have alot of newly discharged veterans for neighbors who are from elsewhere have abandoned trying to return to their old life, often stopped talking to their families and have moved into the woods.

            It is the heart that makes a man rich. He is rich according to what he is not what he has -Henry Ward Beecher

            by PSWaterspirit on Sat Feb 02, 2013 at 09:27:57 AM PST

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    •  And Florida is #2 in the nation for backlog (0+ / 0-)

      i wonder if it would be one if they counted the ones thrown away according to a report Tommyfocus reported on.

      We the People have to make a difference and the Change.....Just do it ! Be part of helping us build a veteran community online. United Veterans of America

      by Vetwife on Sat Feb 02, 2013 at 08:39:18 PM PST

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  •  Someone who understands statistics (4+ / 0-)
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    should look at this.

    The share of all suicides reported as "veterans" on state-issued death certificates was 25 percent in 1999 versus slightly more than 20 percent in 2010, according to VA researchers.
    To me, it seems like population growth (babies don't commit suicide) and the decrease in vets 50 or over by both natural causes and suicide would skew the percentage of veteran suicides lower over time.

    We all stand submissively before the global ATM machine network like trained chickens pecking the correct colored buttons to release our grains of corn. Joe Bageant

    by Zwoof on Sat Feb 02, 2013 at 06:14:31 AM PST

    •  Maybe (4+ / 0-)

      But we've now got another generation of that many have already started taking their lives, and most are of multiple tours in two, not one, very long occupation theaters, as some got out and others came in and even ,finally, the calls that it all is being recognized and help is easily found and more are seeking also plays into, hopefully, bringing those numbers down rapidly!

      The best counseling, and seemingly only done, for us Vietnam veterans and those previous and after, till these two conflicts and attention paid on a whole host of issues and actions taken towards, came from other veterans even those that might not have been directly in the fighting as they fully understood what was going on especially if they were in country as well.

      Vets On FLOTUS and SLOTUS, "Best - Ever": "We haven't had this kind of visibility from the White House—ever." Joyce Raezer - Dec. 30, 2011

      by jimstaro on Sat Feb 02, 2013 at 06:25:35 AM PST

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  •  Thank you Jim, far more than you will ever know. (4+ / 0-)
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    And the saddest part is, these reported suicides are only the ones that are known.  There is no way to know, and no way to gather data, but I suspect there may be two undetected suicides for every one reported.  It's that bad.

    The general who wins the battle makes many calculations in his temple before the battle is fought. The general who loses makes but few calculations beforehand. - Sun Tzu

    by Otteray Scribe on Sat Feb 02, 2013 at 08:01:41 AM PST

    •  True (3+ / 0-)
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      But I really do think that they're looking harder at veterans deaths, though like traffic accidents etc. sometimes not able to detect, then before as the inside the military have grown with these two present wars and frankly under the bush those in country were just pushed aside. Know at least one Gold Star mom who's son died in Iraq, in his bunk, back in the earlier years, who couldn't get any information on his death she suspects was a suicide! And there's been others in same.

      Vets On FLOTUS and SLOTUS, "Best - Ever": "We haven't had this kind of visibility from the White House—ever." Joyce Raezer - Dec. 30, 2011

      by jimstaro on Sat Feb 02, 2013 at 08:18:43 AM PST

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  •  saving and serving our veterans (2+ / 0-)
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    Thank you for this important diary, Jim.

    It's a double shame that most of the post-war Veteran deaths go unrecognized, whether suicide or some other cause of death. And this is for recent Veterans. I found a facebook page that lists the deaths not announced at DoD. The outstanding Veteran deaths prompted me to write last week's IGTNT.

    As we see, the 22 suicides per day includes many Vietnam Veterans and older, and I bet many of them are affected by the current wars and deaths that they have no control over. We had a Taos Veteran die by suicide, and then his mother, a peace activist, soon followed him. click my Life is Precious sig line below to read that sad story.

    I know my Vietnam Vet husband has been adversely affected. He is doing much better now, but almost killed himself in 2007 when he could take no more of US wars abroad. The war years have been terribly tough on veterans and their families.

    In Yoga we have Veterans Yoga Project and Vets Yoga. There are many caring civilians and (and Veterans) receiving special Yoga and meditation training to serve active military and veterans with PTSD and try to bring methods for relief of mental anguish. The VA funds this alternative treatment in several states.

  •  Reposted to VAGV (1+ / 0-)
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    Veterans Against Gun Violence.

    Good diary, Jimstaro.

    What, sir, would the people of the earth be without woman? They would be scarce, sir, almighty scarce. Mark Twain

    by Gordon20024 on Sat Feb 02, 2013 at 09:42:27 AM PST

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