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This shocking article about a Texas church holding concealed guns carry classes comes courtesy of my Tea Party Facebook acquaintance.

She's becoming, as I said in my previous post, more rabid by the day.

This is what she "liked":

The Rev. Brad Foster, senior pastor of the Calvary Baptist Church in Dumas, took the adage, “the Lord helps those who help themselves,” to heart with an offer to hold firearm safety classes at church facilities so parishioners can obtain concealed carry permits, the Amarillo Globe-News reported.

So why is the reverend doing this? Because he wants to protect the Second Amendment, of course!

And what does Jesus think about this?

From the Biblical perspective, we are especially interested as men to be protectors of innocents. Jesus has a special place in his heart for children and innocents, and that’s an important role we have to play
What I fail to comprehend is how the "conservative" article writer can write all this nonsense and be serious about it. Honestly, it reads like a joke to me. Bill Maher could have written the last two sentences:
Until now, Dumas has been primarily known for the old Phil Baxter tune, “I’m a Ding Dong Daddy from Dumas.”

Now it will be known for reviving the patriotic Frank Loesser song, “Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition.”

In my opinion, the writer, the pastor and his flock are all Ding Dong.
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  •  Tip Jar (7+ / 0-)

    Once you vote smart, you never go back. Four more years!

    by healthy on Sun Feb 10, 2013 at 07:30:06 PM PST

  •  Jesus with a six gun: Can't beat that for (0+ / 0-)

    religiosity though you can try with your "turn the other cheek" thing.

  •  You misspelled Dumbass TX. (1+ / 0-)
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    Bush Bites

    You can't make this stuff up.

    by David54 on Sun Feb 10, 2013 at 07:41:26 PM PST

  •  No one says Jesus like a pastor who quotes (3+ / 0-)
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    Bush Bites, Major Kong, nupstateny

    Aesop's Fables ...
    (and in the fable it is Hercules that says "the gods help those who help themselves")

    Give your heart a real workout! Love your enemies!

    by moonbatlulu on Sun Feb 10, 2013 at 07:52:16 PM PST

    •  and the rest of that statement... (0+ / 0-)

      and God help those who get caught helping themselves.  It has nothing to do with what this jerk is promoting.


      The religious fanatics didn't buy the republican party because it was virtuous, they bought it because it was for sale

      by nupstateny on Mon Feb 11, 2013 at 06:00:41 AM PST

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  •  First thing that came to mind ... (5+ / 0-)

    Father Time remains undefeated.

    by jwinIL14 on Sun Feb 10, 2013 at 07:56:59 PM PST

  •  They should revoke his tax free status (4+ / 0-)

    I think we need to take a look at how we define a church in the tax code.  If you partake in any political activity I think that it should be revoked.

    The church is no place for things like guns.  I seriously doubt God would want weapons brought into his house.  And by teaching this class, I think they should no longer be considered tax-exempt.

    That being said, I am no longer shocked by stories that come out of the states of Florida, Texas and Arizona.

    •  Agreed. (1+ / 0-)
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      rustypatina

      "When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

      by Bob Duck on Sun Feb 10, 2013 at 09:21:07 PM PST

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    •  I don't think so. (0+ / 0-)

      The whole reason for that rule is because a preacher was speaking out against LBJ.  This rule ensured he wouldn't.  The idea that Churches have to follow some arbitrary law about what they can and can't say is the antithesis of the 1st amendment.

      •  Not true. They are free to say all they want (2+ / 0-)
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        Dogs are fuzzy, Tinfoil Hat

        I'm just saying that they can then pay their taxes then like everyone else.  It's not what they say.  Why is it that the go-to is always the first amendment?

        Why are they tax-free anyway?  I was not aware there was any kind of statute saying they can't be political.  I was suggesting that if they are political, they should not enjoy their tax free status anymore.

        I have to pay taxes.  The Democratic party pays taxes. All those PACs, Super Pacs, Stimpaks, they all pay taxes.

        Donations to a political party are not tax deductible. Donations to a church that acts like a wing of a political party are? That does not seem fair and it has ZERO to do with the first amendment.

      •  Fine. I say revoke tax-free status (1+ / 0-)
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        Nance

        for ALL churches, starting with ALL church-run businesses and schools.

        Private health insurance: a protection racket without the protection.

        by rustypatina on Mon Feb 11, 2013 at 08:33:39 AM PST

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    •  They should pay their taxes like (0+ / 0-)

      everybody else (or at least like everybody else * should * !!) regardless of what they say/teach.

      Or, recognizing that that ideal world is unlikely, then - considering that the public is subsidizing them if they don't pay taxes - they should definitely be under government oversight wrt what they say, or lose the free ride.

  •  WWJC? (4+ / 0-)
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    healthy, DRo, Flying Goat, noway2

    What would Jesus carry?

  •  I really don't think (2+ / 0-)
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    healthy, DRo

    that everyone in Texas is crazy.

    They just seem to be trying to prove me wrong.

    If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low... oh you oughta see it sometime. It's a sight. A big plane like a '52... varrrooom! Its jet exhaust... frying chickens in the barnyard!

    by Major Kong on Sun Feb 10, 2013 at 09:14:38 PM PST

  •  it's not about the first amendment (3+ / 0-)

    Churches should not enjoy the tax free status they do ...

    for their actual charities of running soup kitchens, free clinics, free day care for poor working parents, etc ...
    yes, any contributions to those may be tax deductible and perhaps the church should get a 'charity' exemption, which would also be available to non-religious organizations that do actual charitable works, ie, the Red Cross, United Way, etc

    But if the first amendment was really being enforced, there would be no tax breaks for churches, pastors etc ...  they should have to pay property taxes, and income taxes

    Then the Catholic Bishops and the Mormon Church and the others could preach all they want about prop 8 or whatever but they would be on the same level as those opposing them.   I am tired  of them screaming religious persecution when they are trying to legislate moral codes of particular beliefs....

    Give your heart a real workout! Love your enemies!

    by moonbatlulu on Sun Feb 10, 2013 at 10:26:07 PM PST

  •  And so he held his flamethrower before his people, (1+ / 0-)
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    healthy

    and said "Lo, this is a modern weapon, a blessing God has, in his beneficence, vested upon us.  Thou shalt take His pistols and His rocket launchers and do-eth His work!  Go forth unto the people, and shooteth thine enemies until, lo, they are dead through the wisdom of God Almighty!  Then danceth upon their graves, for blessed is he who commits slaughter."

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