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Oh how I wish this was one of the greatest troll jobs in the history of legislation, but looking at the sponsors its probably serious.

North Dakota debated a bill that would mandate a 6 month waiting period plus mandatory counseling before a divorce would be granted. Dems in the legislature are claiming the bill "Helps children". The bill even has some Republican sponsors. I would wish this could be turned on the Republicans to support gay marriage and get rid of North Dakota's draconian abortion legislation, but I doubt it.

Here is a link to the Bismarck Tribune article on the bill:

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  •  Someone should remind the GOP regime (6+ / 0-)

    that California enacted the US's first fully permissive state-wide no fault divorce law.  

    It was signed into law by Governor Ronald Reagan.

    Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

    by Wisper on Tue Feb 12, 2013 at 06:11:28 AM PST

  •  What? No transvaginal ultrasound requirement? (3+ / 0-)
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    Rogneid, Radiowalla, BachFan

    The government's legislation of morality is completely out of control.

    Radical Activist Homosexual Agenda: 1. Equality 2. See #1

    by skip945 on Tue Feb 12, 2013 at 06:11:37 AM PST

  •  Not willing to ascribe ill motive .... (8+ / 0-)

    ... but these objections are sound:

    Sherry Mills Moore, a lobbyist with the State Bar Association of North Dakota, spoke against HB1423. Mills Moore questioned the need to mandate counseling for those who already have worked out their financial issues and child visitation on their own.

    “While you’re waiting six months, issues … fall apart,” Mills Moore said. “The waiting period of six months I don’t get.”

    Mills Moore also said mandating counseling would be expensive for a number of people, especially if they’re going through financial difficulties. She also questioned the ability to get access to counseling in the necessary time frame under HB1423.

    Bill Neumann, executive director of the State Bar Association of North Dakota, said making couples wait six months for a divorce was “like requiring people to buckle their safety belts after the accident.”

    Neumann said most people seeking a divorce have likely exhausted all other options prior to pursuing one. He said by the time they’ve begun pursuing a divorce it’s likely too late for any chance of reconciliation.

  •  Couple this to the Violence Against Women Act (7+ / 0-)

    Stanford Business School published a paper called Bargaining in the Shadow of the Law:  Divorce Laws and Family Distress (Warning: Link is PDF File) that shows a no-fault divorce statute lowers female suicide rates, frequency of domestic violence and murder rates where the victim is a married female.

    Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

    by Wisper on Tue Feb 12, 2013 at 06:16:07 AM PST

    •  So you're saying... (2+ / 0-)
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      BlackSheep1, LilithGardener

      when a woman isn't stuck with a man, he can't be a violent asshole to her so easily?  He has to actually take someone else into consideration?  

      No wonder conservatives are against simple divorce.

      Conservatives need to realize that their Silent Moral Majority is neither silent, nor moral, nor a majority.

      by nominalize on Tue Feb 12, 2013 at 08:05:59 AM PST

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      •  ppfft.... so says some elitist liberal college (1+ / 0-)
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        from CALIFORNIA no less.  So, take that it for what it's worth*.

        But yeah... ..who knew?  Turns out treating women like property causes some other problems to crop up.  

        Odd, that.

        Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

        by Wisper on Tue Feb 12, 2013 at 08:24:48 AM PST

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  •  I support marriage as well as marriage equality (1+ / 0-)
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    How big is your personal carbon footprint?

    by ban nock on Tue Feb 12, 2013 at 06:50:23 AM PST

  •  I had a bumper sticker made... (1+ / 0-)
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    ...which reads:

    Only Cowards Ban
        Gay Marriage
    Instead of Divorce

    FWIW :-)

  •  If they really wanted to lower the rate (1+ / 0-)
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    of divorce, they should raise the minimum age to marry up to 25.

    Conservatives need to realize that their Silent Moral Majority is neither silent, nor moral, nor a majority.

    by nominalize on Tue Feb 12, 2013 at 08:04:16 AM PST

  •  My first husband and I (3+ / 0-)
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    got our divorce after he had moved in with another woman and she was pregnant.  

    My second husband and I broke up after he attacked me while I was laying in bed sick.

    Which of these relationships would have been improved or saved by staying in them for six more months?

    That passed by; this can, too. - Deor

    by stevie avebury on Tue Feb 12, 2013 at 08:07:25 AM PST

  •  ND was once home of the "10 minute divorce" (3+ / 0-)
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    Catte Nappe, LilithGardener, BachFan

    Fargo, ND, Divorce Capital of the West

    Long before Nevada became known for its "quickie" divorces in the 1940's, Fargo held the title as divorce capitol of the West. For several decades, the combination of too many lawyers and easy divorce laws made Fargo the place to go for thousands of unhappily married people.

    In 1866, the Dakota Territory legislature passed a divorce law that allowed an an applicant for divorce to begin action immediately upon arrival in the territory. The territorial code was amended in 1877 to require three months for residency for a divorce. U.S. citizenship was not required. While establishing the "residency" required for divorce, soon-to-be divorcees stayed in elegant hotels, attended the opera and symphony, and ate at fine restaurants. People seeking divorces often registered at a hotel for the required three months, left town, and returned several months later when their "residency" had been established. At that time the Northern Pacific train stopped in Fargo at noon for 10 minutes for lunch. So many people used that 10 minutes to check into a hotel, leave a bag, and return to the train that the proceeding came to be known as the "Ten Minute Divorce."

    “If you misspell some words, it’s not plagiarism.” – Some Writer

    by Dbug on Tue Feb 12, 2013 at 08:51:23 AM PST

  •  Virginia "No Fault" divorce law (1+ / 0-)
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    When I lived in Virginia I was shocked to learn that to get a "no fault" divorce, the couple had to remain separated for a year (less if no children) and no obvious co-habitation during that time.  I found this out because that is what one of my roommates was doing.  I just always thought you got into and out of marriage with relative ease.  I had no clue that these sorts of rules existed for ending a marriage.

    "When a nation goes down, or a society perishes, one condition may always be found; they forgot where they came from. They lost sight of what had brought them along." --Carl Sandburg

    by Mote Dai on Tue Feb 12, 2013 at 08:53:51 AM PST

  •  I expect Rs to (0+ / 0-)

    intrude into our personal lives and act like asses.

    But Ds? Shame!

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