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Ready for more crazy weather? Hurricanes, Blizzards, Tornadoes.... Crazy weather will accompany the rise in greenhouse gasses and sea levels. After spending most of Saturday February 9th shoveling and snow blowing nearly 800 ft of driveway, I made this Blizzard Nemo graphic:

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You can make your own Pulp Magazine Cover at Derange-O-Lab. Its a real neat website.

To dig up bitumen one has to remove the peat layer called Muskeg, or remove the Boreal forest. Destruction of the Muskeg releases methane (Ch4) and Carbon dioxide (Co2), both are green house gases. The CERA study of 2009 did not account for these GHG releases, and based the study on Bitumen that was already diluted with lighter grade oil.

CERA study at wiki

Think Progress-CERA study faulted.

A 2010 letter from EPA Assistant Administrator Cynthia Giles was rather blunt in response to the State Departments Draft Environmental Impact Statement on the 1,700 mile Keystone pipeline.

We appreciate the substantial efforts by the State Department to solicit broad expert and public input to analyze the potential environmental impacts of the KeystoneXL project,and believe the Draft EIS provides useful information and analysis. However, we think that the Draft EIS does not provide the scope or detail of analysis necessary to fully inform decision makers and the public, and recommend that additional information and analysis be provided.

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I like how the letter is all nicey nice, and then HOWEVER slams the door shut on the nicey nice. Administrator Giles goes on to suggest that State didn't include a robust analysis and recommends looking at changes to fuel economy standards, potential fuel-efficient technologies, advanced biofuels and electric vehicles and the effect these would have on crude oil consumption.

Then Administrator Giles drops the hammer:

Accordingly, we estimate that GHG emissions from Canadian oil sands crude would be approximately 82% greater than the average crude refined in the U.S., on a well-to-tank basis.
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Just say no to the Keystone pipeline, no to the Tar Sands. Yes to renewable energy, Yes to Solar Energy, yes to Wind Energy. Yes to renewable energy storage systems like pumped hydro.

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"Forward On Climate" Rally - February 17, 2013, 12:00 pm, Washington, DC






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"Forward On Climate" Blogathon: February 11 - February 15, 2013
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IT IS TIME TO TAKE A STAND

Please join tens of thousands of Americans on the National Mall in Washington, DC on Feb. 17 from 12:00 pm-4:00 pm to urge President Barack Obama to take immediate action on Climate Change.  

President Obama has now listed Climate Change as an important part of his second term agenda. Legislative proposals and debate will occur in Congress.  President Obama can take executive action to move Forward on Climate now; he can reject the toxic Keystone XL tar sands pipeline.  A recent study in Canada has linked tar sands with cancer, something First Nations groups have reported for years - with the result being increased cancer rates, deformed wildlife, and a variety of other negative impacts.  President Obama can also direct the Environmental Protection Agency to set carbon standards for power plants.

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"Forward On Climate" Blogathon: February 11 - February 15, 2013
Diary Schedule - All Times Pacific



IT IS TIME TO TAKE A STAND

Please join tens of thousands of Americans on the National Mall in Washington, DC on Feb. 17 from 12:00 pm-4:00 pm to urge President Barack Obama to take immediate action on Climate Change.  

President Obama has now listed Climate Change as an important part of his second term agenda. Legislative proposals and debate will occur in Congress.  President Obama can take executive action to move Forward on Climate now; he can reject the toxic Keystone XL tar sands pipeline.  A recent study in Canada has linked tar sands with cancer, something First Nations groups have reported for years - with the result being increased cancer rates, deformed wildlife, and a variety of other negative impacts. President Obama can also direct the Environmental Protection Agency to set carbon standards for power plants.

Let your voice be heard.

SIGN UP TO SUPPORT THE "FORWARD ON CLIMATE" RALLY IN WASHINGTON, DC ON FEBRUARY 17TH

Our Daily Kos community organizers (Patriot Daily News Clearinghouse, citisven, boatsie, JekyllnHyde, rb137, and peregrine kate) coordinated this blogathon with Bill McKibben of 350.org to help spread the word.





  • Friday, February 15

8:00 am: Roger Fox Forward on Climate-EPA: Tar Sands-82% more GHG than conventional oil.
10:00 am: Phaedra Ellis-Lamkins, Chief Executive Officer of Green For All.
11:00 am: Agathena.
3:00 pm: DWG.
5:00 pm: JekyllnHyde.


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Originally posted to Climate Change SOS on Fri Feb 15, 2013 at 08:00 AM PST.

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  •  Keystone XL would pass thru 2 countries (16+ / 0-)

    Its the biggest project of its kind, and has made itself the biggest target. More and more people from Canada and the US are angered by the KXL pipeline proposal and the inability for both Canada and the US to move forward with a sane Climate Change policy.

    FDR 9-23-33, "If we cannot do this one way, we will do it another way. But do it we will.

    by Roger Fox on Mon Feb 11, 2013 at 01:06:35 PM PST

  •  Let me mention (8+ / 0-)

    One of the popular tactics of those looking to minimize the impact of tar sands oil is to cite the well to wheels estimate, which obscures the impact. This is the game played by CERA.

    It works this way. In a life cycle analysis of greenhouse gas emissions from oil, about 70% of emissions are from vehicle use and 30% from oil extraction and refining. CERA distorted the picture further by assuming that 80% of emissions were from vehicle use.

    The well to tank estimate shows clearly the added component of the tar sands extraction and refining. Moreover, the vehicle contribution is based on old data and does not take improved efficiency into account.

    Even with a complete well to wheels account and a reasonable estimate of emissions from the vehicle side, you still wind up with tars sands bumping up emissions 15-20%.

    Thanks for calling attention to the well to tank emissions for tar sands.

    Be radical in your compassion.

    by DWG on Fri Feb 15, 2013 at 08:18:21 AM PST

    •  Another tactic is to say "coal is worse" (4+ / 0-)
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      "what about coal. But two studies, on in Canada and one in the USA are saying tar sands are worse because of petcoke a byproduct that is being burned in the refineries, much more concentrated carbon in petcoke.

      To thine ownself be true

      by Agathena on Fri Feb 15, 2013 at 09:06:09 AM PST

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      •  And (5+ / 0-)

        The issue with petcoke is that the tar sands crud generates a very high sulfur variant when cracked. Burning tar sands petcoke in refineries would mean the release of SO4 and other sulfides not scrubbed from the stacks. Moreover, since tar sands generates a higher fraction of petcoke than conventional light sweet crude, greenhouse gas emissions will be much greater for tar sands.

        One final issue. I am not sure how well anyone has characterized the composition of tar sands petcoke. My guess is that contains a lot more than just sulfides. All of these compounds will go out the refinery stacks because the emission rules are weaker than power plants.

        Be radical in your compassion.

        by DWG on Fri Feb 15, 2013 at 09:29:02 AM PST

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        •  I'm not certain (1+ / 0-)
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          That large amounts of Tar Sands petcoke will be burnt in US refinery units.   Most refineries use "fuel gas," a refining by-product.  The pet coke is usually sold for fuel in power plants and industrial facilities like cement companies.

          While petcoke may burn cleaner in a carefully controlled power plant, compared to a refinery unit, You are probably correct that Tar Sands pet coke  will be relatively dirty. Even regular petcoke is dirtier than coal.

          Orly, it isn't evidence just because you downloaded it from the internet.

          by 6412093 on Fri Feb 15, 2013 at 11:34:20 AM PST

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          •  Refineries are using it because it is cheaper (0+ / 0-)

            The reports say that refineries at the Athabasca tar sands site are using petcoke as well as the Koch bros' plants in Texas. There's a third Koch bro in charge of the Texas coast refineries.

            To thine ownself be true

            by Agathena on Sat Feb 16, 2013 at 11:34:31 PM PST

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        •  Bitumen:4% sulfur, Ni & V, nitrogen (0+ / 0-)

          I think thats why they use cat crackers, cokers dont handle all that "stuff", plus cat crackers turn out more gas at a higher octane.

          FDR 9-23-33, "If we cannot do this one way, we will do it another way. But do it we will.

          by Roger Fox on Fri Feb 15, 2013 at 05:44:59 PM PST

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  •  After the EPA letter (1+ / 0-)
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    criticizing the Tar Sands EIS's GHG emissions estimates,  the EPA would be empowered to "take it upstairs" to the Council of Environmental Quality, if the GHG calculations were not corrected.

    I understand that when EPA vehemently demurs (here with the Dept of State) over the content of an EIS, then the EPA can publish an unsatisfactory determination and the CEQ will arbitrate the dispute, under Section 309 of the Clean Air Act.

    I've lost track of the Tar Sands NEPA status, are they finished with a supplemental FEIS, and awaiting the State's response to comments?

    Is anyone expecting the EPA to deem the SFEIS "unsatisfactory?"

    Orly, it isn't evidence just because you downloaded it from the internet.

    by 6412093 on Fri Feb 15, 2013 at 11:09:05 AM PST

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