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Calling on all compassionate Kossacks to help prevent the court-ordered euthanasia of Dutch, a service dog who bit a woman after she kicked him and beat him repeatedly with a metal pole.

Although Dutch has been condemned to death by a Montrose CO judge, the disabled veteran who owns Dutch is appealing to the public to sign a petition to stop the dog from being euthanized.  The goal is 300,000 signatures.  More than 275,000 have already signed.  Please sign and share the petition.  This is Dutch's last chance.  Thank you all.
Here's the link to the petition:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/...

Originally posted to Below the Beltway on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 06:01 AM PST.

Also republished by PWB Peeps.

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  •  #279,726 (7+ / 0-)

    Help me to be the best Wavy Gravy I can muster

    by BOHICA on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 06:16:30 AM PST

  •  Signed (6+ / 0-)

    Also sent it to all my friends in various rescues.

    Don’t argue with idiots because they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.—Greg King

    by Pinto Pony on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 06:20:04 AM PST

  •  some more background: (10+ / 0-)
    The Montrose Police Department and Montrose Animal Control have a different version of the events that transpired last November.  

    Both versions agree that the dog was left with the former owner while the current owner drove a friend to the airport.

    A police and animal control investigation confirmed the woman was breaking up a dogfight in which Dutch was involved with a pitbull.  This part of the story wasn't mentioned in dogheirs.com story, which begins with the woman attacking the dog for no apparent reason.

    After hitting him with her hands failed to stop the dog, the woman told police she grabbed a lightweight pole from a tiki torch to force him off the second dog he was attacking. She managed to pull him off, using his collar woman said she had to put her hands in his mouth to pry him off her. When she retreated toward her bedroom, she tripped, and said Dutch attacked again, biting her buttock, again penetrating to the bone, authorities said. When she tried to pry his jaws off her, Dutch bit her finger so hard it caused a compound fracture and severed an artery, the Montrose Press reported.

    The woman's medical bills have mounted to about $24,000, Montrose Police Chief Tom Chinn told The Montrose Press.

    http://www.thedenverchannel.com/...
  •  Signed and forwarded on. n/t. (4+ / 0-)
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    "Madness! Total and complete madness! This never would've happened if the humans hadn't started fighting one another!" Londo Mollari

    by FloridaSNMOM on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 06:36:23 AM PST

  •  Someone is lying. (11+ / 0-)

    Previous diary is here. Discussion was vigorous but polite and the links in the diary, if followed, lead to a more nuanced view of the situation.

    Dutch wasn't even a service dog at the time of the attack.

  •  While I'm terribly sorry that this vet is (9+ / 0-)

    going to lose his dog, I will not have any part in keeping a potentially dangerous dog in service.

    The one thing (most) service dog users realize is, while they love their dog, it is first and foremost a tool. And if the tool goes bad, you have to replace it with a new tool. You cannot continue to use the tool at the sake of public safety.

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    by second gen on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 08:14:14 AM PST

  •  I read all the viable links (8+ / 0-)

    And don't have enough information to go on, but I will say this:

    1) Dutch had no bite or scratch marks from a dog fight according to the vet exam, just the beating injuries. I am skeptical about the "dog fight".

    2) There are no vet bills from the other dog(s) - it's not clear if it was one dog or several dogs - and the other dog(s) is(are) presumably (not confirmed, hearsay only) a pit bull type breed.

    3) Dutch is a 200 pound dog.  There is no physical way that even a large, athletically strong woman would be able to drag him anywhere without his complete cooperation.

    4) You do not break up a dog fight by beating one of the dogs in the face with your bare fists - even tiny dogs or puppies.  You're lucky if you can even get to the dog's head, let alone close enough to their face to beat them bare-handed. This makes me doubt the woman's story - having seen and broken up dog fights before, you might get to their collars to drag off a small dog but not a 200 pound dog. You won't get to their face to beat the dog repeatedly in the face. Putting your hand between the faces of fighting dogs is a sure-fire way to get the hand bitten.

    5) The woman claims the dog bit her on the finger, breaking it and cutting an artery.  It's far more likely she broke her finger beating the dog, and possible that she cut her finger on one of the dog's teeth while beating him. A dog that big would have bitten the entire hand off and not just broken a finger with a cut. That's a beating injury.

    6) It is possible the dog bites came from her own dog(s) and she's conveniently blaming Dutch. Has anyone measured the bites to compare?  A 60 - 70 pound pit bull's mouth will be smaller than a 200 pound dog's mouth.

    7) There is no physical way she could have pried his mouth open unless he cooperated and opened his mouth for her.

    Those are my concerns about the injuries to the dog and the woman.  A good forensics investigator could unravel this.

    Now, as to the service animal aspect:

    1) The gentleman is a disabled veteran. This is fact.

    2) He has been using the dog in a service dog capacity for several years.  Hearsay, but documentable. I will accept it as fact until proven otherwise.

    3) There are no laws in the US that require that service dogs be centrally certified/registered/trained. This is a Good Thing because there are far more disabled people in need of a service dog than there are agencies capable of training them - until that changes, allowing owners to train their dogs is the best possible solution. If I had to wait for an agency to train and provide me with a hearing assistance dog, I'd still be waiting instead of having the services of Itzl for the past 8 years.

    4) Even a well trained service dog will snap and possibly bite when seriously wounded and is being beaten. Itzl snapped at the vet tech who pulled his IV out the wrong way and tore his skin a bit when he had surgery last year - and he was sedated at the time.  This is not a sign of aggression. The vet assured me that when a dog is injured, and snaps at the thing that injured it but does not pursue it and attack it, then the dog is not aggressive.  Aggression is when the dog does more than snap at the thing injuring it, when the dog goes after it and doesn't let go and "worries" or shakes it, ripping and tearing into it  An aggressive 200 pound dog would have killed the woman, not left minor bite wounds that didn't require stitches.

    4) After Itzl's surgery, when he snapped at the vet tech, he had to be re-evaluated for aggression, and re-earn his CGC. That the dog's owners had him evaluated and certified is a good-faith move on their part.  The dog could have failed the test - and trust me, having gone through it, the evaluator does their best to provoke an attack response from the dog.  I know Itzl is just 4 pounds, and so his display of aggression would have been easily controlled had he had one, but to evaluate a 200 pound dog would be scary.  If that dog had displayed the least sign of aggression, even a lifted lip, a change in stance, he would have failed the test and not received the CGC.

    5) There is no certification of service dogs. I can't reiterate that enough.  Not even guide dogs have to be certified.  There are not enough trainers and agencies to provide all the service dogs needed.  Owner-training is permitted because of that serious lack. Therefore, the courts would rely on verification that the person is disabled (already done), and such things as training logs from the owner-trainer, videos of the dog performing services, witness statements of the services the dog performs, and  evaluation by dog trainers after the fact (as has been done with Dutch). That Dutch was evaluated after this presumed attack is perfectly in line with what is expected.

    6) There are some commonly but not required things an owner-trained dog should do:  a) the dog must be spayed or neutered (otherwise, it would be distracted from its service either by having to birth and nurse puppies, or by pursuing bitches in heat), b) it must learn a minimum of 3 behaviors to benefit the disabled, c) it must be well-socialized (usually with a CGC certificate, but not required). A therapy dog must never display aggression or it is retired from its therapy program.  A service dog may, under certain conditions, display some mild aggression, but it must undergo evaluation and re-training. That's why Itzl, even though he displayed aggression when he was sedated and injured, is still allowed to be my service dog. It was a one-off situation. For Dutch, it took being beaten repeatedly until the woman's hand was too sore to continue beating him by hand and then she resorted to a metal pole to continue to beat him before he supposedly bit her. I am not convinced her bites came from Dutch.

    I don't know why Dutch's owner/handler chose not to take Dutch with him to the airport, but there is no law saying a service dog must accompany the disabled at all times.  Indeed, there are a few places where service dogs are not allowed to go. I know I don't take Itzl with me to certain places because the hassles outweigh the benefits.  Picking up or dropping off someone at the airport is one place, because the constant challenges by various authorities who don't communicate with one another is wearying, and the sounds keep Itzl on alert all the time. Unless I was flying, I wouldn't take Itzl to an airport.

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    by Noddy on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 08:42:13 AM PST

    •  Forgot to add: (6+ / 0-)

      If a service dog does fail the aggression test after a provoked bite, it is retired from service and becomes a pet dog instead of a service dog, and loses its rights to go where its handler goes.

      And if a service dog has been pushed to the point of biting (and I'm not convinced the woman's bites came from Dutch, we just have her word that it was Dutch and not her dog(s) that bit her), it is the responsibility of the owner/handler to keep the dog under strict control when out in public.

      Since Itzl snapped at the vet tech after his surgery, I no longer allow people to pet or touch him except in very controlled circumstances.

      This is why people should not annoy, beat, hit, kick, punch, provoke, or pet service dogs - even if the dog never displays a hint of aggression. And why people who do those things to service dogs should be prosecuted for damaging the dog.

      If this woman has ruined Dutch as a service dog, she should be held accountable for it.

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      by Noddy on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 09:00:00 AM PST

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    •  this has been adjudicated by a court, (0+ / 0-)

      so I would think the judge would've considered all of that.

      •  Is this an idea to stand behind after reading the (0+ / 0-)

        latest on Wisconsin's Supreme Court?

      •  Not necessarily (2+ / 0-)
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        Too many judges are not well-versed with the ADA regulations regarding service dogs, especially since they were re-written recently. A lot of people - including judges - still treat service dogs as pets and apply pet rules to service dogs.

        I know when Itzl was injured by the air bags in a car accident, I had to retain a special attorney who had to educate the judge on the special status of a service dog in the consideration of compensation for his injuries.

        And too many people are too ready to assume a dog is not a service dog just because one or two people try to pass their yappy little pets off as service dogs. I'd rather deal with a few frauds than to have all service dogs either eliminated or so highly regulated only the 1% can get one.

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        by Noddy on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 12:03:30 PM PST

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    •  Thanks so much for this additional input. (4+ / 0-)

      Like you, I read all the information I could find about this case online and then made my decision to sign the petition.  Your perspective sheds even more light on this unfortunate type of situation, but reinforces my decision to pass this petition along.
      Thanks so much for taking the time and trouble to add your insights.

      BTW, more than 280,000 have signed the petition as of noon EST.

    •  There were other injuries. Teeth sunken into (1+ / 0-)
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      the thigh, to the bone, and teeth sunken into her buttocks.

      Additionally, they've taken their FB page offline, but in the pictures I saw there last week, the dog is intact.

      I don't know whether this dog needs to be put down or not, but I don't believe, CGC or not, that he needs to be a service dog. The viciousness of the documented injuries preclude that.

      "Mitt Romney looks like the CEO who fires you, then goes to the Country Club and laughs about it with his friends." ~ Thomas Roberts MSNBC

      by second gen on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 10:58:23 AM PST

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      •  I agree. (1+ / 0-)
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        I have cattle dogs, forty and fifty pound dogs. Their aggressive tiffs are not pretty, and my husband and I have separated these medium sized dogs at our own peril, so to speak.  A 200 pound dog of a guard variety with a history of human directed aggression is not an appropriate service dog IMHO.  
        Just reading these diaries and sides of the story scares me.

        •  OK, what history? (1+ / 0-)
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          Until this incident there were no reported incidences of aggression from this dog.  If you have information about prior aggression, please do supply the link.  I'd be interested in reading it.

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          by Noddy on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 11:35:48 AM PST

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          •  Noddy: Pictures of Dutch make him look like (0+ / 0-)

            a very large, intact brindle American Staffordshire or mix, and just the appearance is enough to frighten some people so much they think it's better to eliminate the dog.

            Sound even remotely familiar?

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            by BlackSheep1 on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 11:42:44 AM PST

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            •  A dog can be neutered (2+ / 0-)
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              and still appear intact.  It depends on at what age  the neutering took place and what sort of neuter was done.

              The dog is far larger than a pit bull/Staffordshire type dog - 2 -3 times as large.  A Staffordshire/pit bull type dog would be between 20 and 70 pounds.

              It is an American Allaunt, a breed not recognized by the AKC. Some say it's a cross between a Presa Canario and a Mastiff. It's been called the Ozark Mountain Dog (but another breed has that name) and Missouri Mastiff. The actual Allaunt breed is extinct.

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              by Noddy on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 12:26:12 PM PST

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          •  Once is enough. (0+ / 0-)

            Where I live, city code defines a dangerous dog on only one incident.

            •  Unless you live in (1+ / 0-)
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              Montrose, CO, your city ordinances are irrelevant.  

              This dog is being judged on Montrose ordinances. Quarantine, confinement, and control of the dog are the recommended course of treatment for a biting dog.

              According to their ordinance, euthansia is recommended if the owner doesn't pay the quarantine or confinement fees, or if the dog doesn't test as irredeemably aggressive or a danger to the public.  This dog tested as non-aggressive and re-earned the CGC, and that proves the dog is not irredeemably aggressive or a danger to the public. It might remove the dog from being a public service dog, but shouldn't cost the dog his life.

              The woman was not seriously injured (I know, rumors say she was bitten to the bone in the thigh but photos of the injuries and medical reports don't support that - and the finger injury which required surgery could have occurred when she was beating the dog bare-handed), not for a bite coming from a dog they say weighs 200 pounds.  If anything, the dog restrained itself, which is a credit to the dog.

              How would you have behaved if someone was beating the shit out of you? I wouldn't have shown such restraint as this dog did.

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              by Noddy on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 12:55:20 PM PST

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              •  asdf (0+ / 0-)

                "I know, rumors say she was bitten to the bone in the thigh but photos of the injuries and medical reports don't support that"

                I'm not sure what you've seen but every story I've seen that mentions injury says the evidence is sealed. Is it possible you've seen false photos?

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                by second gen on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 01:49:04 PM PST

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                •  Possible, and it's also possible (0+ / 0-)

                  that it is just a rumor that the bite went "to the bone". What I heard and saw came before it was sealed, before the FB page was removed.

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                  by Noddy on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 01:55:35 PM PST

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                  •  From the guy who is trying to diminish the (0+ / 0-)

                    injuries so he can keep his dog.

                    "Mitt Romney looks like the CEO who fires you, then goes to the Country Club and laughs about it with his friends." ~ Thomas Roberts MSNBC

                    by second gen on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 02:06:32 PM PST

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                    •  And from (0+ / 0-)

                      what was available of the medical reports(an impartial source) before the judge sealed it.

                      Besides, we still don't know for sure that Dutch was the dog who bit. There was more than one dog present, and any of the dogs could have been the biter.

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                      by Noddy on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 06:02:19 PM PST

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        •  As someone who has intervened with a approximately (0+ / 0-)

          60-pound dog (going after a dog of close to the same size), I have a hard time figuring out how anyone (or any dog) would not have been seriously injured by their bite.

          As a matter of fact, when our 15-year-old Miniature Schnauzer (barely 14 pounds in her advanced years) reflexively bit me due to severe spinal pain, I had a Level 4 bite.  (Level 4: The dog is putting great pressure into the bite. 1 to 4 puncture wounds with or without tearing, more than ½ the depth of the eye tooth. This is usually accompanied with bruising and likely to require medical attention. These injuries suggest the dog grabbed and shook what was in it's mouth.).  

          I got a tetanus shot due to deep puncture and bruising, but got by without a stitch.

          So, it is hard for me to imagine that a 200-pound dog could bite a human or a dog, without causing substantial injury to them.

          Seems as though medical records would make this incident crystal clear.

          Mollie

          "Only he who can see the invisible, can do the impossible." --Frank L. Gaines

          "If a dog won’t come to you after having looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience.” -- Woodrow Wilson

          by musiccitymollie on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 10:24:25 PM PST

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          •  BTW, my comment does not indicate that I'm taking (0+ / 0-)

            sides, one way or the other, since I've not read all the materials.

            I'm actually only trying to say that I am puzzled that it is a mystery.

            I also might add, that it can be a dicey situation, figuring out which dog is biting a human, if they are attempting to intervene.

            Personally, I would never stick my hand between two fighting dogs.  I have always attempted to restrain a dog from behind.

            Mollie

            "Only he who can see the invisible, can do the impossible." --Frank L. Gaines

            "If a dog won’t come to you after having looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience.” -- Woodrow Wilson

            by musiccitymollie on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 10:31:02 PM PST

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      •  Assuming the bites came (3+ / 0-)
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        from Dutch and not the woman's own dogs. I have not seen anything that confirms the bites were from Dutch and not her own dogs.  I am reserving judgement until there is some proof other than the woman's say so, which is all that's made it public so far.  

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        by Noddy on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 11:33:45 AM PST

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        •  You do realize this dog wasn't being called (1+ / 0-)
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          or trained as a "service dog" until AFTER the attacks, right? When questioning why he didn't take it to the airport and left it with the previous owner (who also happens to be his sister-in-law) the answer is because he had no right to take the dog with him. It was (and still is, IMO) a pet.

          "Mitt Romney looks like the CEO who fires you, then goes to the Country Club and laughs about it with his friends." ~ Thomas Roberts MSNBC

          by second gen on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 01:10:08 PM PST

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          •  Your reply does not in any way (0+ / 0-)

            offer information on whether the woman's bites were caused by Dutch or by her own dog(s).

            In answer to your not-relevant-to-my-comment comment: A dog doesn't have to be called a service dog to be trained and to function as one. Its status is only relevant when challenged, and it's at that point that the dog requires some documentation.

            I didn't call Itzl my service dog until after the car accident where he was injured by the air bags. He was 4 years old at that time. He'd been functioning as my hearing assistance dog for 3 years by then, but I wasn't treating him as a service dog (partly because of his breed and size).  My attorney for the accident (I needed one because the insurance company refused to pay for my injuries or the damage to my car even though it was clearly the other driver's fault) was both amused and surprised that I was using Itzl as a service dog and not giving him the privileges that come with it.  He recommended retaining an attorney specializing in service dog cases for Itzl's accident claim. And from that day on, I gave Itzl his service dog privileges.

            It could be the same thing with this veteran.  He used the dog as a service dog, but wasn't confident enough to claim the privileges.

            We who have service dogs shouldn't have to have our need and use validated by a court case, but sometimes, that's the way it happens.

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            by Noddy on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 01:31:47 PM PST

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            •  If the dog is not specifically trained to (0+ / 0-)

              mitigate a disability, it doesn't matter what he calls him, and when he started doing so. It doesn't qualify as a service dog.

              "Mitt Romney looks like the CEO who fires you, then goes to the Country Club and laughs about it with his friends." ~ Thomas Roberts MSNBC

              by second gen on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 02:04:19 PM PST

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              •  Present your facts, please. (0+ / 0-)

                How do you know the dog wasn't owner trained?  Do you know what tasks the dog provides the veteran? Do you know what training the dog has received (other than the fact that the dog received the CGC and was valuated and confirmed by a qualified trainer)?

                On an owner-trained service dog, there is no graduation ceremony to mark when the dog officially becomes a service dog. It is often a gradual process. Sometimes, it takes an incident for the owner to realize the dog is indeed a service dog, and can describe what tasks the dog provides to mitigate the disability.

                How do you know his attorney wasn't like mine, who brought it to my attention that my dog was indeed a service dog and deserved the accessibility and privileges of a service dog?

                Of course, in Dutch's case, it might be moot now.  Whatever happened at that house may have forever ruined him as a service dog.

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                by Noddy on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 06:00:04 PM PST

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        •  Additionally, after people came to the (1+ / 0-)
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          house to help her, the dog attacked the dog in which he had originally gotten into the fight with, in front of them. Regardless if you believe the woman's story or not, with documented medical evidence, this is a dog aggressive animal and should not be out in public. Fighting for a person to be able to keep a service dog that is aggressive is a really bad idea. People have enough trouble with service dogs that are perceived as aggressive because of their breed. A truly aggressive dog being allowed in service makes it that much harder on good, responsible service dog owners.

          "Mitt Romney looks like the CEO who fires you, then goes to the Country Club and laughs about it with his friends." ~ Thomas Roberts MSNBC

          by second gen on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 01:21:44 PM PST

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          •  I haven't seen the link (1+ / 0-)
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            that the dog continued aggressive, please provide, as this is in contradiction to the AKC dog trainer's report and the re-cert for the CGC, which an aggressive dog can't get.

            If Dutch is dog-aggressive, then it should be removed from being a service dog. Even if the dog is only aggressive towards that specific dog, it should be removed from service.

            That doesn't mean the dog should be killed.

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            by Noddy on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 01:49:42 PM PST

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            •  I have never stated the dog should be killed. (1+ / 0-)
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              My main concern is that this dog is being trotted out as a service dog AFTER an attack, and only BECAUSE of an attack. It's damaging to legitimate service dog owners.

              From reports around the web, though, it appears this guy will do what he wishes, and that may include using him in public even if the dog is spared from death.

              LINK

              In the several minutes until her fiance and another man arrived, Dutch tried to get inside and damaged several pieces of furniture in the house, a city statement said.

              The fiance arrived with another man to find Dutch sitting quietly on the floor, but he attacked again when the pit bull from the original fight entered the house.

              The second man struck hit Dutch repeatedly with a board to free the pit bull from Dutch while the fiance went to the woman’s aid.

              "Mitt Romney looks like the CEO who fires you, then goes to the Country Club and laughs about it with his friends." ~ Thomas Roberts MSNBC

              by second gen on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 02:01:33 PM PST

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              •  Thank you for the link. (0+ / 0-)

                I was fighting for the dog's life.  

                I wasn't particularly vested in it being a publicly accessible service dog because I didn't (and still don't) have all the facts.

                Dogs fail to become service dogs for many reasons, and some service dogs are ruined by the behavior of other people (the dog that was traumatized by the airline personnel at the airport last year, and the guide dog that was brutally attacked in a park and now can't perform its duties of there's a dog of similar breed nearby - both have had to be retired and through no fault of their own).  

                We don't know what this woman did to her own dogs and to Dutch while he was in their care. We may never know. Whatever happened, it's obvious the dog may be ruined as a service dog with public accessibility.

                What facts do you have to back up that the dog was not used as a service dog before the incident? That the family didn't consider it a service dog?

                Most of my co-workers don't know Itzl is a service dog. Most of my family doesn't know Itzl is a service dog. They don't need to know. Unless there's a highly publicized incident, they will probably never know Itzl is a service dog - even though we've been partnered for 8 years.

                All knowledge is worth having. Check out OctopodiCon to support steampunk learning and fun. Also, on DKos, check out the Itzl Alert Network.

                by Noddy on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 05:51:41 PM PST

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  •  It appears the judge became upset with the net (1+ / 0-)
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    activists trying to save the dog, and ordered the family to take down a facebook page dedicated to that purpose. The judge ordered the dog killed on Valentine's Day.  

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    by BlackSheep1 on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 11:39:18 AM PST

    •  Dutch has not been put down. Yet. (1+ / 0-)
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      According to the update on 2/14 from the court in Montrose, Colorado, Judge Richard J. Brown upheld the order to euthanize Dutch.

      Jeremy Aguilar, the disabled veteran who owns Dutch, was fined and ordered to spend two days in jail. Dutch was not surrendered today, so Judge Brown also ordered Jeremy to turn him over.

      The Aguilars are appealing the decision, and may be able to keep Dutch during the appeal. The judge ordered Animal Services to hold off on putting the dog down until all appeals are complete.

      •  I don't believe the judge should allow him to (0+ / 0-)

        have the dog, pending appeal. He has publicly stated he will take it to Oklahoma, out of this judge's jurisdiction if the appeal doesn't go through.

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        by second gen on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 02:33:40 PM PST

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    •  No. He ordered the FB page to be (0+ / 0-)

      taken down because the postings were libelous and the woman was getting death threats over it.

      "Mitt Romney looks like the CEO who fires you, then goes to the Country Club and laughs about it with his friends." ~ Thomas Roberts MSNBC

      by second gen on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 02:32:08 PM PST

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      •  Even the city's story says the woman beat the dog (0+ / 0-)

        there are discrepancies with her story of what happened too.

        The dog was beaten with something metal, and the dog showed signs of serious injury to its head, face, and one eye, not from a dogfight but from a beating.

        I do not think the dog is at fault here, and certainly not solely so.

        LBJ, Lady Bird, Anne Richards, Barbara Jordan, Sully Sullenberger, Ike, Drew Brees, Molly Ivins --Texas is no Bush league! -7.50,-5.59

        by BlackSheep1 on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 08:47:41 PM PST

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