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Thanks, Orrin Hatch for clarifying the GOP "Message."  In a speech to the Utah legislature, Hatch said yesterday:

"I'm for sequestration, We've got to face the music now, or it will be much tougher later."
Then he said sequestration would lead to an economic disaster in Utah as two-thirds of civilians working at Hill Air Force Base would be furloughed.  He said it would be
"devastating to our nation's readiness."

(H/t Steve Benen)

Where did I hear something like that before?

Feb. 8, 1968: It became necessary to destroy the town to save it.

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  •  Tip Jar (7+ / 0-)

    The GOP: "You can always go to the Emergency Room."

    by Upper West on Fri Feb 22, 2013 at 07:01:47 AM PST

  •  The inescapable conclusion of these 2 statements? (3+ / 0-)
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    Joy of Fishes, Rogneid, Upper West

    Orrin Hatch is an enemy of the United States.

    "There is a weapon that will damage the US.  I am for using that weapon."

    QED.

    "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions." - Thomas Jefferson

    by rfall on Fri Feb 22, 2013 at 07:10:13 AM PST

  •  This is how goopers multi-task.....'Which bullshit (1+ / 0-)
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    Upper West

    would you like to hear today?'

  •  Let's call it what it is -- rationing. (0+ / 0-)

    We already know that rationing leads to hoarding and that may well explain why American corporations have been hoarding cash (over two trillion at last count).

    But, rationing is usually invoked when some necessity is in short supply. Luxuries in short supply are desired because that is supposed to make the few worth more.
    So, why ration US dollars, whose supply is practically infinite? It makes no sense, unless the Congress is just feeling its oats and wants to demonstrate how obstreperous it can get.
    Sadly, since elections are just past, there's little we the people can do -- except make a list and keep checking it twice a day between now and the next election day.

    Note to Democratic Party, Chamber of Commerce, Rotary and Kiwanis:  YOU'D BETTER COME UP WITH BETTER CANDIDATES NEXT TIME.

    We organize governments to deliver services and prevent abuse.

    by hannah on Fri Feb 22, 2013 at 08:43:52 AM PST

  •  Absolutely astounding (1+ / 0-)
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    Upper West

    Everytime I think I can no longer be made incredulous by some idiocy that starts pouring out of the right wing they do it again. At one point in time, many years ago, it seems, there were Republicans, (including some that are still in office today), that would actually work towards the good of the COUNTRY rather than the good of THEMSELVES, or the REBULICAN PARTY.  Apparently with the arrival of the rabidly stupid right wing, tea baggers, etc......., the consciences of the entire party got up and left!

  •  Yeah, it will be bad (2+ / 0-)
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    Upper West, snoopydawg

    Now who is going to buy $600 hammers from companies own by the brothers-in-law of congressmen?

  •  What's the contradiction? (0+ / 0-)

    If you think the alternative is more devastating, you go with the preferable devastation.  Of course, Hatch is being an idiot, since the worse-than-sequestration fate he is trying to avoid is halfway-equitable taxation of corporations and the wealthy.  As for me, I think sequestration might well be devastating but I am OK with it because I believe the only compromise that the WH and Congress would reach absent the threat-and-reality of sequestration would be more devastating in that it would target the most vulnerable people.

    You know, I sometimes think if I could see, I'd be kicking a lot of ass. -Stevie Wonder at the Glastonbury Festival, 2010

    by Rich in PA on Fri Feb 22, 2013 at 09:18:43 AM PST

  •  In other words you are on your own (0+ / 0-)

    because the senior senator from Utah has more important things to do like use your security as political sport.

  •  Hatch is another shallow unprincipled (0+ / 0-)

    Congressman who is trembling in his boots over the prospect of a Tea Party primary opponent. The LIBERTARIAN PURISTS are in charge of what remains of the Republican Party. What pisses me off is that I was writing about these political anarchists back before Obama was elected to his first presidental term. I stated then that these "right wing fringe" libertarians were ONLY INTERESTED IN THE TOTAL ELIMINATION OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT!  This always has been the goal of the purist Libertarians going back to the days when the Libertarian Party was founded. Now at this late date this group of anarchist Libertarians has finally become un-masked as being anarchists against the U.S. Government who are dressed in acceptable Republican garb.

    Hatch discovered in the last election that his political survival is dependent on his staying in line with the so-called "Tea Party" rhetoric. (It is incorrect to call Tea Party demands out as the Republican Party line, as the majority of the Tea Party demands target the eventual destruction of the entire Federal government.)

    This is why Hatch initially expresses dismay  that sequestration will bring destruction of the very jobs- generating federal programs that he has devoted his entire political life to preserving and expanding for people in his state; but then suddenly struck with a flash of cold political reality he quickly parades out the Tea Party line regarding the sequester and declares  "I'm for the sequester. We have to face the music!" I for one believe that Senator Hatch at some point will not be able to bear to watch the collapse of all that he has achieved over the years, and somehow find his spine to rebel against his Tea Party overlords. However for now Hatch preferes to run away and leave the fight for another day.

    •  Your terminology is incorrect (0+ / 0-)

      American right wing libertarianism is a contradiction in terms. The word libertarian predates the right wing movement which labels itself thusly, and derives from the concept of libertarian socialism from Europe in the 1800s.

      Yep, the original libertarians were (and still are) socialists. But they were non-authoritarian socialists (anarchists) and believed in real freedom and liberty from hierarchy and thus, from the State as well.

      The term "libertarian" as used by free market zealots is completely incorrect, since there is nothing at all truly libertarian about wage slavery in the capitalist market place, in which people sell their labor (their actual physical bodies) to the ruling class; to those who have control of the land, tools and equipment used in production.

      How is such exploitation and wage slavery anything resembling liberty? This is another example of left wing terms being co-opted, in Orwellian fashion, by the right.

      The same applies to the term "anarcho-capitalism." Capitalism is never without a ruling class, and never without wage slavery, and never without oppression of the working class, and thus it cannot be described as "without rulers".

      Anarchism is a society based on the egalitarian principles of mutual aid and collective self management.

      Thus, the chaos of a dog eat dog society (as seen in capitalism, for example) would not exist in anarchic society, because since hierarchy is opposed and discouraged as much as possible, no one would be allowed by the communities to govern as an individual. Instead, the people manage their own affairs by collective cooperation, using direct democracy in participatory communities.

      It is highly organized, economically sound and efficient, and anything but chaos.

      Federations are formed by cooperating participatory communities entering into agreement by free association, thus forming networks that are local, regional, and even international in scale.

      But decisions are made from the bottom up, rather than top down. Thus, it is anarchic, without rulers, since the people manage themselves with direct democracy. Delegates to federal committees are elected or rotated, and come from the community, live in the community, and receive mandates/instructions from it, and are recallable immediately if necessary, in the case that they try to assume authority as individuals.  

      "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." -George Orwell

      by ZhenRen on Fri Feb 22, 2013 at 05:13:06 PM PST

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