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The draconian sequester cuts are coming and House Republicans had a meeting earlier today to settle on talking points to excuse their culpability in this whole mess: They will be "amused" by President Obama's "theatrics" on sequester and they will "hold their ground [and] stay on offense."

But enough about the real life consequences of sequester: The loss of more than 750,000 jobs, cuts to military readiness, law enforcement, education, border security, food safety—the list goes on and on—because House Republicans have more important things to worry about:

Another topic discussed among a group of members was technology. Republicans are worried about the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee’s email list, which includes more than 1 million subscribers. They’d like the National Republican Campaign Committee to continue to build its web presence and e-mail lists in the run-up to the 2014 midterm elections.
Priorities, people! Sure, House Republicans are willfully—cheerfully—ready to let Americans across the country get screwed over, but the important thing here is that they're losing the Email List War and the 2014 elections are just around the corner. Why, they're nearly as close as the mortgage payments coming due for some 750,000 people next month ...

Originally posted to Barbara Morrill on Tue Feb 26, 2013 at 08:33 AM PST.

Also republished by Daily Kos.

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  •  Laser-focused on jobs..... (3+ / 0-)
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    by Floyd Blue on Tue Feb 26, 2013 at 08:53:21 AM PST

    •  Wow, just like Sadaam and the 9/11 link... (6+ / 0-)

      ...they retreated from that position, to one of "ok, well he has WMDs and he wants to use them on us", so early on that people forgot about the first-purported 9/11 link, which was ridiculous to begin with.

      So has the GOP congress dropped even mentioning jobs for so long now.  Now when they talk about how they are helping the common man, it is only through some long term plan of defeating Obama and the liberal agenda, starving it into submission, so maybe in several years at the earliest, they can take over again and finally get the economy back on track and help.....

      wait, what are they saying again??

      Buy Aldus Shrugged : The Antidote to Ayn Rand, and tear Ayn and the GOP new orifices. ALL ROYALTIES BETWEEN NOW AND MARCH 1, DONATED TO THIS SITE, DAILYKOS!! @floydbluealdus1

      by Floyd Blue on Tue Feb 26, 2013 at 08:56:37 AM PST

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  •  honestly the GOP makes me (12+ / 0-)

    so mad I could SPIT!! JUST when things are starting to stabilize for education funding in CA because voters decided we had had enough of the roller coaster funding....these idiots have to intentionally inflict another wound on our economy!

    "There can be no peace so long as hunger and want are found among millions of working people and the few, who make up the employing class, have all the good things in life." Preamble to IWW Constitution

    by ca union goon on Tue Feb 26, 2013 at 08:55:17 AM PST

  •  Actually the elections are the real priority (9+ / 0-)

    Yes, people will get hurt by the sequester. But if we don't have a plan to take the House and hold the Senate in 2014 the harm now will look like "the good old days" when the Repukes do worse in 2014 and beyond.

    What's wrong with America? I'll tell you. Everything Romney said was pre-chewed wads of cud from Republicans from the last 30 years and yet he managed thru a combination of racism and selling the (false) hope of riches to get 47% of the national vote.

    by ontheleftcoast on Tue Feb 26, 2013 at 08:55:38 AM PST

    •  RE www (2+ / 0-)
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      They’d like the National Republican Campaign Committee to continue to build its web presence
      Heck of an idea!  Because Gen Z and techies are naturally sympathetic to the Republican's platform.

      Oh, and I am sure there are also a lot of people who don't have TVs to watch Rush but they DO have Internet connections to see the GOP websites.

  •  Please proceed, Congress-critters (10+ / 0-)

    These people are going to get absolutely lambasted in 2014.

    •  Not with overly gerrymandered seats (6+ / 0-)

      Drawn with the latest computer technology to a precision, to ensure that idiots continue to control the House.

      "We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals, now we know that it is bad economics." Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Jan. 20, 1937

      by Navy Vet Terp on Tue Feb 26, 2013 at 09:26:55 AM PST

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      •  Not so sure (2+ / 0-)
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        I remember all the serious people explaining how it would be nigh impossible to hold the Senate.

        Might be useful to throw out all the conventional wisdom for awhile.  American's opinion of Congress is at historic lows.  Media monopoly was broken long ago by the Internet.


        2014 elections are wide open if we want them to be!

      •  Still need voting trends data to make it work (0+ / 0-)

        They didn't expect a good chunk of the final electorate to show up, didn't believe it even existed.

        Like polls - these maps are drawn on "historical" voting patterns. When it comes right down to it, statistics ... aka "math" is required to make it all work, and we all know how strong the GOP has been with that lately.

        Many districts will be far more competitive than people believe, if the Dems would just field candidates.

        NTM the changing of hearts and minds, the GOP excels at that, for Democrats.

         

        In a capitalist democracy - every dollar is a "vote" ... spend wisely ...

        by RUNDOWN on Wed Feb 27, 2013 at 09:57:26 AM PST

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    •  Respectfully, I think that's a bit of a stretch, (3+ / 0-)
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      :-).

      Seriously, I personally believe that the outcomes of the 2014 and 2016 elections, much more depend upon whether the Dems go along with draconian cuts to the social insurance programs.

      The reality is, the number of folks receiving rental vouchers (for instance), which is usually quoted at 125,000, couldn't possibly affect the outcome of an election.

      But the current over 55 million Social Security beneficiaries, along with the gradually retiring 76 million Boomer soon-to-be beneficiaries (which doesn't include the succeeding generations who will ALL be affected if Social Security and Medicare benefits are slashed) DO HAVE REAL ELECTORAL POWER.

      THIS is the constituency that the Dems (or Repubs) need to be worried about as they conduct the ongoing fiscal negotiations.

      I also consider most of what we're watching to be simply 'more Kabuki.'

      Either way, truth-be-told, there is no actual crises that occurs this Friday, if an agreement is not reached.

      Even all the Dems on the Sunday Political Talk Shows, admitted as much.

      Chances are, though, that this will end up like the negotiations this past December--with a last minute "deal."

      [And, if that fails, the PtB are betting on whipping up enough hysteria, so that when they do make deep cuts to the social programs, the American People will be so grateful that the US avoided another recession, that they will continue to be easily mollified, by having a few crumbs occasionally thrown their way.]

      And this is what's really depressing, IMHO.

      Mollie

      "If a dog won’t come to you after having looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience.” -- Woodrow Wilson

      hiddennplainsight

      by musiccitymollie on Tue Feb 26, 2013 at 09:55:54 AM PST

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    •  Not without the Democrats working (1+ / 0-)
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      tirelessly to make it happen.  Momentum is already waning.

      "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

      by SueDe on Tue Feb 26, 2013 at 10:12:00 AM PST

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  •  dear Republicans (8+ / 0-)

    I believe you have a public relations problem.

    The only solution is for Hermain Cain and Sarah Palin to appear on the show Wife Swap, and trade spouses with each other.

  •  It's tough for the GOP to get e-mail lists (7+ / 0-)

    because their base of white, racist, septuagenarians generally do not use the internets as much as other demographics.

    "She was very young,he thought,...she did not understand that to push an inconvenient person over a cliff solves nothing." -1984

    by aggressiveprogressive on Tue Feb 26, 2013 at 08:58:48 AM PST

  •  they have changed the talking points (6+ / 0-)

    the GOP has been all over the map on the sequester in the last couple of weeks.  In the last couple of days they are all coming around to saying it is a good thing.  It seems obvious that it is a coordinated effort by the GOP to clarify their messaging.  Even chickenhawks like John Cornyn are saying the DOD cuts aren't a big deal now.

    •  That's because they're too freaking lazy (1+ / 0-)
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      to do anything else. They spend all of their time in DC huddling together working on messaging, interviewing with the beltway media and planning their next crisis. No legislative negotiations, no Jobs Bill, no new solutions (just repackaged talking points). This is the laziest batch of GOPers that I can remember. The Bills they push are handed to them by ALEC and GOP "think tanks" with a tweak or two by their Congressional aides. Their goal of shutting down the Government speaks more to their pervasive laziness than it does to their ideology. Talk about a bunch of takers sucking on the Government teet...look no further than House Republicans, their billionaire funders and their constituency of corporate welfare recipients.

    •  Cornyn will be hearing from the (0+ / 0-)

      thousands of military contractors, their employees and the businesses that support them in his state of Texas very soon.

      "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

      by SueDe on Tue Feb 26, 2013 at 10:23:19 AM PST

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  •  That NYT Magazine article (2+ / 0-)
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    must have gotten under their skin, eh?

  •  Conservative Twits all a Twitter (1+ / 0-)
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    I want 1 less Tiny Coffin, Why Don't You? Support The President's Gun Violence Plan.

    by JML9999 on Tue Feb 26, 2013 at 09:18:59 AM PST

  •  QUESTION? (4+ / 0-)
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    Are Republicans once again falling victim to believing their own spin?
    I can't come up with any other logical reason why Republicans would think they will be better off (politically) if they just let the Sequester happen then if they sign onto some deal to either prevent or postpone it.  They must believe their spin that either Obama will be blamed for the consequences or the consequences will not be that severe.

    Granted, signing onto some deal now will cause them political hurt within their far-right conservative caucus, but its nowhere near the hurt that will put upon them by the general electorate if they allow the Sequester to happen.  Any independent observation of their political situation not clouded by spin would clearly indicate that avoiding the Sequester is the lesser of two political evils for Republicans.

    Lastly, I know some of you around here might be thinking that the Sequester has some positives qualities in pure political terms, in that we all know the Republicans will take a TREMENDOUS political hit when it happens.  However, I will not be one to take any joy out of the POLITICAL hurt the Sequester will cause the Republicans, because it will put REAL hurt on millions of Americans.

    "Some men see things as they are and ask, 'Why?' I dream of things that never were and ask, 'Why not?"

    by Doctor Who on Tue Feb 26, 2013 at 09:32:37 AM PST

  •  More sad news for GOPers :( : Bobby Jindal seems (0+ / 0-)

    to be a fail in his home state. From Huffington Post article:
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    But any governor seeking a national platform must find a way to frame his political approach for a broader audience, and the challenge for a Republican Party that has lost five of the last six presidential popular votes is to find standard bearers who satisfy the GOP base, while widening it, too.

    Bill Clinton sold the nation in 1992 on Arkansas progress, overcoming mockery of his "Arkansas miracle." Eight years later, George W. Bush framed his work with Texas Democrats, who ran the legislature, as proof that he was a "uniter, not a divider."

    The first ingredient, Pinsonat said, is having your own people call you a success, adding: "If I'm from another state and the guy's not popular in his home state, no matter what he says after that, I don't know if you hear the rest of it."
    =
    ==============

    Well, there's always that Latino Fla. senator Rubio. Oh, right. He's a Cuban-American conservative. Not exactly the flavor of the month for most Latinos.

    "They will not collect a ransom in exchange for not crashing the American economy. The full faith and credit of the United States of America is not a bargaining chip."

    by TofG on Tue Feb 26, 2013 at 09:38:50 AM PST

  •  Amused? (0+ / 0-)

    Random austerity measures that nobody thinks are a good idea inflicted on a barely recovered economy, and they've decided that their best move right now is to let the public know that they are laughing, just laughing, at the whole thing?

    -- Stu

    "Oh me oh my oh me oh my What a lot of funny things go by!" - T. Geisel

    by sdf on Tue Feb 26, 2013 at 09:40:23 AM PST

  •  Wherein a handful of American-Middle Class (0+ / 0-)

    hating Rethuglicans are willing to destroy the economy of the country in order to protect their wealthy owners.  Fiddling while Rome burns.  Couldn't hate this party of miscreants anymore than I do right now.

    Down with the Republican party in 2014!!!!!

    Best. President. Ever.

    by Little Lulu on Tue Feb 26, 2013 at 09:40:53 AM PST

  •  Draconian?? (0+ / 0-)

    Ha ha ha ha..that's funny. These "cuts" are an absolute joke. The politicians on all sides think we  must be stupid. I can roll back my yearly spending by a few percentage points, in fact I have. To think the federal government cannot do something similar is absurd.  The hyperbole that teachers, police and firefighters will be laid off due to sequester is nothing short of fear-mongering (SP?). Both sides do it and it's despicable.

    •  Right. And if a hundred million jtabts cut... (1+ / 0-)
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      their spending as much as you have, people lose their job, because that's a hundred million times as much revenue lost at the grocery store or hardware store or wherever else you choose to trim your spending.

      Hard to fathom, but just like workers in your area have jobs because lotsa people like you provide funding (known as buying services and things), workers all over the country have jobs because the big huge government provides funding. Cut funding from either on a big enough scale and ya get less jobs.

      "The Democratic Party is not our friend: it is the only party we can negotiate with."

      by 2020adam on Tue Feb 26, 2013 at 09:55:21 AM PST

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      •  half agree (0+ / 0-)

        The focus should be on creating jobs. Limit budget increases somehow and get more people back to work somehow. That is the only real way to get the deficit under control. Increased taxes and decreased spending alone will not make a dent.

        Yes, social programs and defense spending allow people to spend money or have a job but it distorts the market. Not sure what the answer is to balance safety net programs and defense programs.

        •  demand creates jobs not fairy dust or benevolent (0+ / 0-)

          rich gods.

          guns are fun v. hey buddy, watch what you are doing -- which side are you on?

          by 88kathy on Tue Feb 26, 2013 at 10:37:05 AM PST

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        •  Hey, I'm sure--cut defense spending, lol! (0+ / 0-)

          Seriously, as a former federal civilian service (GS) employee for over twenty years, I assure you that there's plenty of fat that can be cut.  And if done correctly, with minimal repercussions to the federal workforce.

          I've been through more RIFS and furloughs than I've got fingers.  Heck, the bulk of them were during a "pro-military" regime, so to speak.  I'm referring to both of Reagan's terms.

          For decades, the furlough, and to a much less degree, the RIF procedure has been used as a budgetary tool.

          What really amazes me the most in many of the discussions regarding "the sequester," is that the misunderstanding of the definition of "austerity."

          Again, folks, cutting jobs for budgetary reasons is not austerity.

          Seriously, when economists refer to "austerity measures,"as I understand it, they are referring to "government entities raising taxes, or revenue, at the same time that the very basic, structural social service programs (i.e., in the US--Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid) are slashed."

          So, while any budget cuts, to any social services are unfortunate, and undoubtedly painful for those folks that they affect, cutting the WIC program (as an example--and in no way implying that this isn't a very worthy and much needed program) is really not an austerity measure.  It's a 'budget cut.'  

          If the Dems and Repubs succeed in "overhauling" our federal tax code to raise revenue (by closing loopholes, or whatever), and then pass and enact draconian cuts to Social Security, Medicare and/or Medicaid--THAT WILL BE "AUSTERITY."

          Mollie

          "If a dog won’t come to you after having looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience.” -- Woodrow Wilson

          hiddennplainsight

          by musiccitymollie on Tue Feb 26, 2013 at 01:28:27 PM PST

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        •  Unfortunately it's significantly simpler than... (0+ / 0-)

          it all appears. Jobs are an expense. Private sector business owners only take on expenses they can afford. They can only afford additional expenses when there is increased demand for their product. Demand can't significantly increase when you're in an employment crisis, because there's nobody to spur that growth. Owners are looking for consumers, consumers looking for jobs, going to owners, who aren't finding consumers...

          The only entity that can step in and stop such a cycle is a government with a sovereign currency like ours. The Federal government is paying rock-bottom interest rates on its borrowing because everyone knows our debt is Constitutionally inviolable and we have the central banking system needed to back that promise up.

          All of which is to say, while consumers are having trouble getting the kinds of loans or employment they'd need to start spending and business owners are either having similar trouble with loans or are having a hard time justifying spending anything, we should probably turn to the organization that can hit up the ATM for a trillion or three and literally pay zero interest after inflation because there's nowhere safer than Treasury bonds to stash your savings these days.

          In the end, it will be as if your wish was granted, because folks with jobs (even government jobs) pay taxes, and people with jobs buy stuff from people who pay taxes on the profits or pay employment taxes when they hire people, who will buy stuff with their newfound earnings... All of which lowers the deficit by decreasing demand for safety net services and increasing tax revenue.

          "The Democratic Party is not our friend: it is the only party we can negotiate with."

          by 2020adam on Tue Feb 26, 2013 at 09:16:23 PM PST

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    •  You wouldn't believe it if the government (0+ / 0-)

      essential workers were gone.  You would say it was just a trick.  There is nothing more cynical than both sides do it.

      So whoopie, we are on our way to small government, this house of cards is headed to the bathtub.

      guns are fun v. hey buddy, watch what you are doing -- which side are you on?

      by 88kathy on Tue Feb 26, 2013 at 10:35:44 AM PST

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  •  They have bigger fish to fry? (0+ / 0-)

    Here it is!

    Mayan Word For 'Apocalypse' Actually Translates More Accurately As "Time Of Pale Obese Gun Monsters."......the Onion

    by lyvwyr101 on Tue Feb 26, 2013 at 09:47:26 AM PST

  •  Before we laugh too much (0+ / 0-)

    Be aware that the Republicans are aware that they're behind Democrats in both technical and field operations, and they're going to try to close the gap. We can't assume any sort of edge, and we can't overcome their advantage in crank billionaire donors without maintaining a technical and field operations edge.

  •  I listened to the Senate Committee on Finance (1+ / 0-)
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    hearings on C-SPAN this morning which featured Douglas Holtz-Eakin expounding on the debt and deficit and contending that the sequester was a ham-handed way of addressing the problems of financing the government, but something had to be done.  That something needed to be focused on spending cuts, that tax reform would only be acceptable if it "broadened the base" and lowered rates, and the biggest threat to the economy was entitlement spending.  In other words, same argument the Republicans have been making since the Great Recession began.

    He was questioned by both Democrats and Republicans, but no one from either party asked him how reducing the deficit while the economy was still shaky, especially since sizeable spending cuts had already been enacted, would help the economy recover and grow.  There was plenty of discussion about how deficits threatened recovery, but no discussion at all of of how.  It just seemed to be accepted by everybody as a "given."

    The other guest testifying before the committee was Robert Greenstein, Director of the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, who stated, then reiterated for every Republican committee member, that if congress wanted to achieve deficit reduction in an economically efficient way, they would need to look at spending throughout the entire budget — in the tax code as well as on the outlay side of the ledger -  but that really the deficit was not causing any problem at present and any reductions should be implemented only after the economy was advanced enough that the private sector would be willing to make up for the federal spending reductions.

    No one explained to Mr. Greenstein why or how he was wrong and how the deficit was negatively impacting the economy now.

    I have yet to hear anyone explain exactly how current deficit spending or even long-term federal debt is holding back economic recovery right now and why it's important to address it by cutting federal spending now.

    "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

    by SueDe on Tue Feb 26, 2013 at 10:08:21 AM PST

    •  You've hit the nail on the head, SueDe. You say (1+ / 0-)
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      That something needed to be focused on spending cuts, that tax reform would only be acceptable if it "broadened the base" and lowered rates, and the biggest threat to the economy was entitlement spending.  

      In other words, same argument the Republicans have been making since the Great Recession began.

      He was questioned by both Democrats and Republicans, but no one from either party asked him how reducing the deficit while the economy was still shaky, . . . . would help the economy recover and grow.  

      There was plenty of discussion about how deficits threatened recovery, but no discussion at all of of how.  It just seemed to be accepted by everybody as a "given."

      Lowering the rates and broadening the base is double-speak for lowing the tax rates for the wealthy and the corporations, by taxing the poor and middle-classes heavier--as in closing 'so-called loopholes' such as home mortgage interest deductions, and the tax exemption that many Americans are afforded on their employer's portion of their group health insurance premiums.

      The loss of these loopholes will greatly increase taxes on the working and middle classes.

      The Leadership of both parties agree on this, and are working as we are sitting here blogging, to overhaul the US Tax Code for just this purpose.

      This is one of Bowles-Simpson's proposals.

      Please read The Moment Of Truth, the President's Fiscal Commission's recommendations.  There is an entire section on Tax Reform.

      And you say:  "but no one from either party asked him how reducing the deficit while the economy was still shaky, . . . . would help the economy recover and grow."

      I'm sure that they were careful not to ask that question.  Because they all know the answer, which is that all the political maneuvering that we're witnessing has nothing to do with "creating jobs."

      The entire deficit hysteria/Kabuki Theater is a tool to create a climate in which the PtB can basically restructure the federal government.  

      And the further goal is to eliminate, or at the very least GREATLY REDUCE, all "transfer programs."  IOW, redistributive programs such as Social Security, SSDI, UE, VA Disability, Tri-Care, Federal Civil Service Retirement, Medicare, and Medicaid.

      And, they don't talk about how deficits threaten the economy, because in this economy, public spending is actually needed--NOT DETRIMENTAL to the economy.

      And the reason for all this contortion, is that the PtB are using "deficit hysteria" as an excuse (or cover) to shred the Social Safety Net.

      Pure and simple.

      [And if you think I'm kidding, please read The Moment of Truth.  Bowles-Simpson don't go into great detail on Medicare, but they touch on all of the programs that I listed above.  And they go into GREAT detail on Social Security and Tax Reform.]

      Mollie

      "If a dog won’t come to you after having looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience.” -- Woodrow Wilson

      hiddennplainsight

      by musiccitymollie on Tue Feb 26, 2013 at 04:48:03 PM PST

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      •  I've read "The Moment of Truth" (1+ / 0-)
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        I knew it was going to be bad when I read the subtitle:  Report of the National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform.  This is not a Commission Report - it's the wet dream of the co-chairmen.  Under its own rules for issuing a report, the Commission did not issue one.  When the subtitle of a report is a lie, you know it's going downhill from there.  It was a horror.

        "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

        by SueDe on Tue Feb 26, 2013 at 06:29:15 PM PST

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        •  You're right that it's the 'Chairman's Mark,' but (0+ / 0-)

          I hope you (and everyone else) don't completely dismiss this proposal.  

          I reread it from time to time, because every time that we have a so-called fiscal crises, several of their proposals are included in the final "deal" that is reached.

          Saw a Jack Lew interview with Financial Times reporter James Politi, in which then Chief-Of-Staff Lew stated that the Administration supported "all six pillars of Simpson-Bowles."  [The only reason that I've not posted the video here, is that my paid subscription has lapsed.  So, I can no longer access the video archive.]

          Since you've read the 66-page proposal, I'm sure that you know that it was divided into six (6) sections.  Therefore, Lew's statement was very disturbing.

          We're in the "Nashville" vicinity.  I took this user name in honor of our Miniature Schnauzer, Yogi's Music City Mollie.  And she was from Nashville. :-)

          Mollie

          "If a dog won’t come to you after having looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience.” -- Woodrow Wilson

          hiddennplainsight

          by musiccitymollie on Tue Feb 26, 2013 at 06:51:24 PM PST

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          •  I did not see the Financial Times interview (1+ / 0-)
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            with Jack Lew.  But the president has made it clear time after time that he is in favor of deficit reduction and accepts that cutting "entitlements" is necessary.  That doesn't bother me as much as the tax implications of  B-S (ironically apropos acronym for the proposal, isn't it?).  It's obvious that something is going to have to be done put a stop to growth of the national debt (that is, the debt-to-GDP ratio), but there are other suggestions out there for doing that, such as instituting a financial transaction tax, lifting the cap on earnings subject to the FICA tax, allowing Medicare to negotiate drug prices, etc. - even some pretty far-out, even nonsensical suggestions.  Here's one that Dean Baker dreamed up, just for the sake of argument:

            we can easily change the debt to GDP ratio with some simple and costless debt management. If interest rates rise as projected, we would have the opportunity to buy back trillions of dollars of the debt issued in the current low interest rate environment at sharp discounts. Suppose we bought back $4 trillion in long-term debt at a price of $3 trillion because higher interest rates lowered the price of the outstanding bonds.

            This would immediately chop 6 percentage points off our debt to GDP ratio.....[But] For folks more grounded in reality, this is a waste of time.

            Since the B-S proposals stretch 75 years in the future, a lot of those proposals - as well as the need for them - are liable to change drastically before they play out.

            My hope is that the president doesn't want to implement much if any of the B-S plan any time soon.

            "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

            by SueDe on Wed Feb 27, 2013 at 10:05:45 PM PST

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          •  It's too late to rec your comment, (1+ / 0-)
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            but I wanted to let you know how much I appreciate the discussion.

            "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

            by SueDe on Wed Feb 27, 2013 at 10:06:58 PM PST

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      •  By the way, (0+ / 0-)

        what Music City are you in?  Nashville?  Austin?  Detroit?

        "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

        by SueDe on Tue Feb 26, 2013 at 06:30:40 PM PST

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    work out just fine for them.  And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this is working very well for them.

    guns are fun v. hey buddy, watch what you are doing -- which side are you on?

    by 88kathy on Tue Feb 26, 2013 at 10:18:39 AM PST

  •  If it does stall out the damn border fence (0+ / 0-)

    it will have achieved one good thing.

    LBJ, Lady Bird, Anne Richards, Barbara Jordan, Sully Sullenberger, Ike, Drew Brees, Molly Ivins --Texas is no Bush league! -7.50,-5.59

    by BlackSheep1 on Tue Feb 26, 2013 at 10:52:18 AM PST

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