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Need an ID? Even Obama "got one" - no birth certificate required. - Just shameful...

I hope Obama can sue for this one.

For reasons I'm not going to discuss here, I found myself assisting a friend late Friday evening into early Saturday morning at a bail bondsman office called - in Dallas, of course - Cowboy Bail Bonds.  And this picture just threw me for a loop. The ad implies that Obama got his Texas ID with "no birth certificate required" - sigh. What do you think?

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  •  Tip Jar (13+ / 0-)

    When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained.-Mark Twain

    by Havoth on Mon Mar 11, 2013 at 12:26:01 AM PDT

  •  It's rough down here. (4+ / 0-)

    I'm curious as to what the attribution at the bottom is.
    Cannot see on my monitor.

    •  I took it with my cell phone (1+ / 0-)
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      cosette

      while I was there. I'm new to Kos, and did not attribute it. It was a poster hanging on their inner-office door. At the very bottom, you can see a misappropriated Dallas Cowboys star logo too. It's Cowboy Bailbonds.  They are not shy of stealing copyrighted materials.

      When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained.-Mark Twain

      by Havoth on Mon Mar 11, 2013 at 04:35:44 PM PDT

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  •  Ha! Busy cowboys, judging from their site: (3+ / 0-)
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    Rogneid, Havoth, cosette
    Why YOU SHOULD choose cowboy bail?

    How Do Over 300,000 SATISFIED CUSTOMERS Describe Cowboy Bail Bonds?
    Knowledgeable
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    To read more about why you should choose Cowboy Bail Bonds, click here...

    Cowboy Bail Bonds

    (In case anybody wishes tell them directly what you think of their wall decor --- plenty of contact info, or even live chat!)
    •  300,000? How many centuries have they been in (4+ / 0-)
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      Chi, a2nite, coquiero, cosette

      business?
      There are only about 100,000 criminal trials each year in the entire nation (based on 2009 stats) and I assume they don't get all the business in the state

      •  I know right? But trial numbers aren't anywhere (1+ / 0-)
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        WakeUpNeo

        NEAR the numbers of arrests, making bails necessary. The true institutionalized economic oppression & racism is the judicial font of moolah that goes to these types of businesses, with all the access to everyone in the judicial system ever.

        When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained.-Mark Twain

        by Havoth on Mon Mar 11, 2013 at 04:40:03 PM PDT

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        •  but then there are repeat customers (1+ / 0-)
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          Havoth

          Tx only has a population of 26M

          •  and 14.8 million are black/hispanic/other (0+ / 0-)

            who get arrested the most, so...yeah...lots of repeat customers. DFW metroplex has about 7 million and 3 million is black or hispanic so 300,000 bails provided isn't so much really. There are many bailstores near the jail in Downtown Dallas.

            Yes they do arrest white people too - but it's pretty slanted the other way. And you can't get arrested for driving while black, if you're white.

            When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained.-Mark Twain

            by Havoth on Mon Mar 11, 2013 at 11:22:55 PM PDT

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    •  Thanks WAkeUpNeo! I didn't even think to (2+ / 0-)
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      do that. I was just trying not to spit in anger while sitting there in front of it. And I did manage to say to the guy on duty, "ay know how wrong that is?" and he laughed and told me that he wasn't racist....sheesh. They also have GW's pic on the wall next to Perry, so...

      When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained.-Mark Twain

      by Havoth on Mon Mar 11, 2013 at 04:42:08 PM PDT

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      •  You're welcome - Thanks for shining the light. (1+ / 0-)
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        Was not sure whether to post a link or not, but know sometimes people like to check sources and perhaps directly share their thoughts with any company that provides such a shining, inspiring example of civility and good citizenship!

        /s

        ~ WUN

  •  I used to see annoying cr*p (6+ / 0-)

    in most of the hole in the wall stores and restaurants in my little corner of Fort Worth during the Clinton administration, not to mention the hateful bumper stickers. Either Rush or some screaming evangelist would be pouring filth out of the radio too, especially in places where I had to buy plumbing or hardware supplies. Obama's blackness and exoticism gives them a new point to focus on, but it has always been there.
    I loved Fort Worth in many ways, and sometimes miss it. Seeing that poster makes me realise that sometimes I don't miss it all that much.

    "We are monkeys with money and guns". Tom Waits

    by northsylvania on Mon Mar 11, 2013 at 02:36:46 AM PDT

    •  Someday I hope to be not missing TX... (2+ / 0-)
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      When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained.-Mark Twain

      by Havoth on Mon Mar 11, 2013 at 04:37:39 PM PDT

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    •  When I first moved here... (3+ / 0-)
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      There was a great joke about the difference between Fort Wuth and Dallas women. When a Dallas woman gets pulled over, she puts on red lipstick and cries. When a Fort Worth woman gets pulled over she turns and looks at her best friend and says, "I think I can take him, Martha...".

      I moved to Grapevine originally, and have lived in Dallas past 5 years. Dallas voted blue the last several elections, but it's weird here too. And yes Haltom City, and Ft Wuth, are way worse.

      When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained.-Mark Twain

      by Havoth on Mon Mar 11, 2013 at 04:46:12 PM PDT

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      •  Whoa. (1+ / 0-)
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        I was going to put Grapevine in the sentence about bumper stickers, but thought no one would know where it was. I used to go to the British Emporium to pick up some Hobnobs and Chocolate Digestives for the spouse. Now I can go down the street and get them, but have to spend hours reconstructing frijoles borracho. There ain't no paradise.

        "We are monkeys with money and guns". Tom Waits

        by northsylvania on Tue Mar 12, 2013 at 01:55:13 AM PDT

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        •  Grapevine is not the paradise it was in 1995 (1+ / 0-)
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          I loved the British Emporium - but for me - the day Grapevine really took on an odd flavor is when the Elliott's Hardware was gone...I LOVED that place. And now I have drifted totally off topic.
          Also- I bought my first and probably only and last home there. There was something in the water that made all men in Grapevine/Southlake Soccer Assc (or maybe GC ISD) want a divorce and/or a hooker when the last kid was a senior. I thought it was a weird form of senioritis that struck dads instead of high school seniors. But it hit us too. We barely broke even on the house in 2007. And yes, Grapevine was not as warm and friendly anymore.

          When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained.-Mark Twain

          by Havoth on Tue Mar 12, 2013 at 09:44:40 AM PDT

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          •  WHAT!!!! (1+ / 0-)
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            No Elliott's Hardware??!!
            Abomination, or at least a damned shame.

            "We are monkeys with money and guns". Tom Waits

            by northsylvania on Tue Mar 12, 2013 at 03:31:50 PM PDT

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            •  ...and, (0+ / 0-)

              on the hooker business, it's a generalised North Texas thang, at least according to the friends who still live there.

              "We are monkeys with money and guns". Tom Waits

              by northsylvania on Tue Mar 12, 2013 at 03:33:56 PM PDT

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              •  I KNOW right? (1+ / 0-)
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                It's kinda weird but it happened to so many of my neighbors and contemporaries. But she really was an "escort" and worked for an escort service. And she decided she wanted to retire with my guy. Which was funny, cause she really had more money than he did in the end. And when she realized that...well...let's just say he moved back home to Ky to "be near his folks" and moved in with some chick that wouldn't date him in high school.  Go figure that one out. Good talking with ya.

                When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained.-Mark Twain

                by Havoth on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 12:28:18 PM PDT

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  •  well what would a birth certificate prove? (0+ / 0-)

    After all BCs are not a universal sort of document.  Doing some genealogical research some time ago, I found my state did not start recording death certificates until 1915.  I also found some copies of affidavits my grandfather attested to certifying the approximate birth dates for some tenants to receive SS in the 1960's.  Granted that generation has long since shuffled off this mortal coil but the fact remains for many older Americans, birth in a hospital was not a guaranteed event and for many, a family Bible or relatives' recollections are their best claim to a birth date.

    This ignores the ease with which someone can either obtain an actual BC in some one else's name or else get a fake BC.  Either is not so difficult as BCs, the official ones, look fake.  Mine from 1951 may look legit due to the coffee stains.  http://www.reference.com/...

    Finally BCs are not photo ID.  Exactly how will requiring a BC prove identity or citizenship (which I assume is the point)?  All it does is add another level of frustration for people already overburdened with dealing with various bureaucracies    

  •  Not surprised nt (1+ / 0-)
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    WakeUpNeo
  •  Be not concerned (3+ / 0-)
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    coquiero, AnnieR, unfangus

    This looks like theit standard M.O., nothing to get newly concerned about. I've concluded that such libelous nonsense  put out by right are merely a means to justify their racist and biggoted feelings. in otherwords, they serve to help them intellectually externalize, and therefore take no responsibility for, what are actually internal character flaws. This is why we hear even the, so-called, intellectual class on the right making the ridiculous assertion that their dysfunction is actually Obama's fault, because he insists on appearing so reasonable.

    I no longer concern myself with intellectually understanding the logical basis for the anti-Obama arguments from the right, as their motivating attitudes and biases were established long before anyone had heard of Barack Obama. Obama's election simply has compelled them to make their attitudes and biases public. Therefore, I do not seek to understand them, nor reason with them for their positions and attitudes were not formed by reason.

  •  These racists idiots must be exposed (2+ / 0-)
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    Havoth, WakeUpNeo

    They may not be shamed to seek penance but they need to be exposed

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