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U.S. Republican Presidential candidate Mitt Romney speaks outside K's Hamburger Shop in Troy, Ohio, June 17, 2012. Standing with Romney are Rob Portman (L), Speaker of the House John Boehner (3rd L), his wife Ann (3rd R) and his grandchildren. REUTERS/Lar
When Portman (back left) was a potential Romney veep, he wasn't pro-equality
Now that Sen. Rob Portman (R-OH) has endorsed marriage equality, some Republican fundraisers are declaring a sea change has taken place and that pro-equality donors should open their checkbooks to the GOP:
Republican fundraisers say the changing views of gay marriage in their party could unlock big money from GOP donors in places like New York, California and Florida — where some Republicans have kept their checkbooks closed over what they saw as misplaced priorities, at best, or intolerance, at worst, at the highest ranks of the party.

Several Republicans pointed to Sen. Rob Portman’s switch in support of gay marriage as a watershed moment for the party.

Watershed moment? Hmm. Let's take a look at the numbers:
Just a few years ago, both parties were close to all goose eggs when it came to marriage equality, but Democrats have embraced equality in a big way. So you can talk about Democratic watershed moments if you like, but as House Speaker John Boehner was quick to confirm, Republicans are still the same old party they've always been. The only difference is that now they are actively seeking support from people with whom they disagree.

Basically, their message is: "We're not changing, but you don't have to be on our side to give us your money, because Rob Portman." It makes about as much sense as encouraging Democratic donors to contribute to Mitt Romney because Chuck Hagel endorsed the president.

Originally posted to The Jed Report on Tue Mar 26, 2013 at 09:53 AM PDT.

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  •  GOP short on cash? (5+ / 0-)
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    JeffW, jilikins, shoeless, RichM, Zera Lee

    Why would they even care to go after such people if they weren't short on cash? Seems very strange for such an organization that claims to be so in tune with the people that they would be having any problems in the cash departement.

    "I know the meaning of life. It doesn't help me a bit."

    by dss on Tue Mar 26, 2013 at 10:19:49 AM PDT

  •  These are not the droids you're looking for. (7+ / 0-)
  •  They're dim, Jed! (9+ / 0-)

    They deserve neither money, nor votes.

    Float like a manhole cover, sting like a sash weight! Clean Coal Is A Clinker!

    by JeffW on Tue Mar 26, 2013 at 10:20:15 AM PDT

  •  The GOP should get Ann Romney in on this (13+ / 0-)

    "We love you GAY PEOPLE!!!"

  •  This will almost certainly change (1+ / 0-)
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    shoeless

    Probably not in time to save the GOP in 2014, but when 2016 rolls around, the Dems will be 99% in favor of SSM, and I think the numbers of elected GOPs will start hitting the 1/3 ratio...

    That's how sea change works.

  •  I've got some money to send them ! (3+ / 0-)
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    bleeding blue, shoeless, vcmvo2

    Old , worthless , out of date , valueless , pesos from Mexico .
    Its perfect for them and their ideas .

    Drop the name-calling MB 2/4/11 + Please try to use ratings properly! Kos 9/9/11

    by indycam on Tue Mar 26, 2013 at 10:22:13 AM PDT

  •  I read something about Portman yesterday (4+ / 0-)
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    pamelabrown, vcmvo2, shoeless, RichM

    And I said under my breath "I fucking hate Republicans". Not under my breath enough -- my daughter heard me. I explained that this issue only became important to Portman when it was his son, but when it's my daughter or someone else's kid, we're basically told tough shit...

    And now they are trying to fundraiser from this? While simultaneously telling their bigots that still hate teh gays? Shhh, I'm sure none of the big money guys in NY or CA will hear about that...

    My daughter is 14, gay, and will NEVER vote Republican.

    First the thing is impossible, then improbable, then unsatisfactorily achieved, then quietly improved, until one day it is actual and uncontroversial. ... It starts off impossible and it ends up done. - Adam Gopnik

    by theKgirls on Tue Mar 26, 2013 at 10:22:48 AM PDT

    •  Every Log Cabin Republican I've ever seen has been (2+ / 0-)
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      Zera Lee, theKgirls

      male, other than Liz Cheney. Perhaps lesbians don't like the combination of Republican hatred for both women and gays.

      Just when you thought there wasn't a dime's worth of difference between the two parties, the Republicans go and prove you're wrong.

      by shoeless on Tue Mar 26, 2013 at 11:15:18 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  What's with that group anyway? (2+ / 0-)
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        shoeless, theKgirls

        I don't get their willingness to endorse the GOP every.single.time no matter that the GOP platform puts in BIG BOLD LETTERS that they're not liked and are never even going to be given scraps of equality.  Maybe all they really care about are the tax cuts that the GOP fights for so vociferously though, in that case, why not just call your group something like "Gay Americans for Tax Cuts" or something?  Why pretend to care about equality when you continue to endorse a group that doesn't even pretend to care about it?  And then they had the nerve to start complaining about President Obama and Democrats in 2010 about DADT?

        •  As far as the name, Log Cabin Republicans, (2+ / 0-)
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          theKgirls, Calamity Jean

          the irony of the reference to the President who freed the slaves is astounding, given that their party is dead set against equality of any kind.

          Just when you thought there wasn't a dime's worth of difference between the two parties, the Republicans go and prove you're wrong.

          by shoeless on Tue Mar 26, 2013 at 12:23:16 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

        •  Bylaws (0+ / 0-)

          The LCR refused to endorse Bush over one of his more obnoxious gay-bashing statements. At that time, I read that their bylaws had them only endorsing Republicans. They don't automatically endorse Republicans, but they are prevented from endorsing any Democrats.

        •  umm all the moderates in the Log Cabin Left the (0+ / 0-)

          party ages ago. Back when they were around they were actually able to not endorse Bush Sr. in 1992 and George W in 2004.

          In fact, the occasional victory for the GOP cannot hide the fact that this country is fast heading into another era, not of two-party democracy, but a party-and-a-half system. And the GOP is the half a party- Larry Sabato

          by lordpet8 on Tue Mar 26, 2013 at 05:54:00 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

  •  By my rough calculations, that's 254 to 3. (4+ / 0-)
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    cocinero, vcmvo2, RichM, pademocrat

    So Dems should get 98.8 percent of the donations.

    stay together / learn the flowers / go light - Gary Snyder

    by Mother Mags on Tue Mar 26, 2013 at 10:23:17 AM PDT

  •  Sadly, I've seen some liberals making a similar (0+ / 0-)

    argument. Not to send GOP money because of Portman's switch. But saying that there really isnt any difference between Portman and Obama/Clinton on marriage equality.

    Portman might have switched on the issue for selfish reasons, but so did Obama/Clinton(politics).

    While there is truth in that argument, it ignores that Obama and Dems have a much better record on gay rights than Portman or really any of the GOP officials who have come out for gay marriage.

  •  Watch them (3+ / 0-)
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    Gentle Giant, RichM, AllanTBG

    Just like they try to take credit for the civil rights legislation in the 60's and "MLK was a Republican", it is only a matter of time before we start hearing "Harvey Milk was a Republican".

    "Never before in all our history have these forces been so united against one candidate as they stand today. They are unanimous in their hate for me--and I welcome their hatred." Franklin D. Roosevelt

    by djbender on Tue Mar 26, 2013 at 10:38:37 AM PDT

  •  the political conversion to gay (1+ / 0-)
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    Gentle Giant

    Is about money.  

    Color me surprised.

    Psst!!!......Mittens you are more of a poor loser than I thought.

    by wbishop3 on Tue Mar 26, 2013 at 10:39:54 AM PDT

  •  well, they've gone from hate to tokenism (2+ / 0-)
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    and for Republicans, acceptance seldom goes beyond tokenism.
    "There's a blah guy who ran for the Republican presidential nomination, and was a brief frontrunner, too.
    Why don't more blah people vote republican?"

    I'll bet very few Republicans can give an answer to that question.

    Last full month in which the average daily temperature did not exceed twentieth-century norms: 2/1985 - Harper's Index, 2/2013

    by kamarvt on Tue Mar 26, 2013 at 10:41:00 AM PDT

  •  GOP (2+ / 0-)
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    pamelabrown, Calamity Jean

    Symbolism over Substance
    Talking Points over Facts
    Fantasy over Reality
    Money over People
    Appearances over Truth

    The only voters who will open their checkbooks to Republicans over Portman's "enlightenment" will be those who are Republican who have had the same enlightenment. It's not a very large or particularly lucrative source for their goldlust.

    I believe in democracy, civil liberties, and the rule of law. That makes me a liberal, and I’m proud of it. - Paul Krugman

    by Gentle Giant on Tue Mar 26, 2013 at 10:43:57 AM PDT

  •  That Etch-A-Sketch is turbo charged!! n/a (0+ / 0-)
  •  Who are the two GOP House members? (0+ / 0-)

    Anyone know?

    The scene on November 6, midnight: Barack Obama holds up newspaper reading "Romney defeats Obama" as he heads to give his second term acceptance speech.

    by alkatt on Tue Mar 26, 2013 at 10:55:08 AM PDT

    •  NY-22 and FL-27 (2+ / 0-)
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      shoeless, alkatt

      Or, Richard Hanna and Ileana Ros-Lehtinen.

      Of the two, Hanna, as a Main Street guy, seems closest to an actual moderate Republican (or as moderate as you get these days). Ros-Lehtinen has a transgender activist son, so she breaks with the party on LGBT and hate crimes issues.

      •  Thank you! (0+ / 0-)

        Didn't know there were such things as even semi-semi-moderates in the GOP these days.

        The scene on November 6, midnight: Barack Obama holds up newspaper reading "Romney defeats Obama" as he heads to give his second term acceptance speech.

        by alkatt on Tue Mar 26, 2013 at 01:01:42 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  All they see is money (1+ / 0-)
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    vcmvo2

    Where they should be seeing injustice and inequality in our system, they just perk up when money is involved. Be it lobbyists, superpacs, corporations or just billionaire businessmen they don't see the rest of us.. the voters.

    "I think it's the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately." -- George Carlin, Satirical Comic,(1937-2008)

    by Wynter on Tue Mar 26, 2013 at 10:57:05 AM PDT

  •  GOP platform: (1+ / 0-)
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    vcmvo2
    the union of one man and one woman must be upheld as the national standard, a goal to stand for, encourage, and promote through laws governing marriage.
    Moving on...

    Republicans represent both sides: the insanely rich and vice versa.

    by Crashing Vor on Tue Mar 26, 2013 at 10:58:04 AM PDT

  •  Facade? Portman. Reality? Pat Buchanan. (1+ / 0-)
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    shoeless

    What the GOP wants you to believe about their inclusiveness is a shallow as a mardi gras face mask.

    cheerleaders need not apply.

    by kravitz on Tue Mar 26, 2013 at 11:08:22 AM PDT

  •  Yeah well the Romney campaign (1+ / 0-)
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    shoeless

    had to come out and say that Portman didn't lose out on that uber important VP slot because of his gay son!

    Yeah right!

    In our sleep, pain which cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart until, in our own despair, comes wisdom through the awful grace of God ~RFK

    by vcmvo2 on Tue Mar 26, 2013 at 11:16:36 AM PDT

  •  Portman political calculation (0+ / 0-)

    I have not joined the Beat Up on Portman bandwagon because I'm from the A Win is  a Win school (plus I don't know anyone who can go back in time and persuade Portman to be in favor of marriage equality when he was against it). My comment was that Portman had made a political calculation that would benefit him in the future, either as a presidential candidate or for re-election (discounting the "my son is gay" reasoning).

    Much like Obama was able to say that he opposed the Iraq Invasion and Occupation when it was unpopular, Portman as candidate will be able to say the same thing about marriage equality, especially after SCOTUS issues its (pro-equality) rulings this summer. The big unknown is whether the Teavangelicals can be dislodged from their controlling positions and the GOP can be allowed to move to a more rational footing. Portman may be an early victim but the survival of the Republicans depends on the move before the last of the Old White Men meets his maker.

    BTW, the additional cash generated from conservative-minded gays is a bonus.

  •  They are so obvious (1+ / 0-)
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    shoeless

    Rove saying one thing on tv, another on his blog. It is all about the $$$s.

    This is their strategy:

    Say one thing on tv, then Go Proud etc can run to their donor base saying look how lovely the GOP is - please give generously (ps buy a copy of our book how tax cuts can improve your love life).

    Then off tv or to another news station they deny saying anything like that so they can run to the FRC and say look we still hate the gays - please give generously (ps please buy a copy of our book How tax cuts help you pray the gay away).

    The GOP is a money making scam designed to extract money from rubes. It is not a political party.

  •  Pro-same sex marriage GOP can send me $ too... (1+ / 0-)
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    shoeless

    I'm perfectly open to taking their money. I won't even complain. Doing so won't advance their agenda, but I won'to stop them from sending it.

    "I wish you luck on not hating your parents for mixing up such an unthinkable person." --The frickin´ HP--

    by McWaffle on Tue Mar 26, 2013 at 11:45:08 AM PDT

  •  Hold on a second. (1+ / 0-)
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    Calamity Jean

    THREE presidents?

    That would mean Jimmy Carter, right? I missed that. God, I love that man more every year.

    It's long passed time that we embrace Carter. He was a good president and now he's an even better man.

    Reagan v. Carter?

    I know where I stand and I'm not afraid to say it. The nation was never so wrong as it was when it didn't reelect Carter. Never.

    God bless Jimmy Carter.

    Ceterum censeo Factionem Republicanam esse delendam.

    by journeyman on Tue Mar 26, 2013 at 12:17:33 PM PDT

    •  Best ex-president ever. (0+ / 0-)

      I never thought that Carter was all that good as a president, but he's the best ex-president we've ever had. Instead of consulting for bucks, he became point man for
      Habitat for Humanity
      and
      Amnesty International

    •  Carter was forced to move to the left in 1980 (0+ / 0-)

      When he was facing a tough primary challenge from Ted Kennedy (who was courting the gay vote by supporting gay rights in his platform). Even the end Carter capitulated and endorsed all the same platforms for the general election.

      I'm still proud that the Democrats took the first step by putting gay rights in the party platform in 1980.

      In fact, the occasional victory for the GOP cannot hide the fact that this country is fast heading into another era, not of two-party democracy, but a party-and-a-half system. And the GOP is the half a party- Larry Sabato

      by lordpet8 on Tue Mar 26, 2013 at 05:57:05 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  In fact the Highest Ranking GOP State Official (0+ / 0-)

    That supports Marriage Equality is Lt. Governor Phil Scott of Vermont.

  •  Donors (0+ / 0-)

    On donors, he has a point.

    The selection of Republican support for marriage equality isn't as great as teh Selection of Democrats, but he's talking about guys who want what the Republicans do for them -- loswer their taxes or something else. They just kept their purse strings in a knot because the R brand was so neanderthal. Now that there is a cro-magnin wing of the R party, mybe they will donate to them.

  •  Those are also good for the purists... (1+ / 0-)
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    Watershed moment? Hmm. Let's take a look at the numbers:
    ...who say there's no difference between the parties.

    "Push the button, Max!" Jack Lemmon as Professor Fate, The Great Race

    by bartcopfan on Tue Mar 26, 2013 at 02:53:51 PM PDT

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