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59 years old is a terrible age to be when you are looking for work in the US these days. I know that the purpose of this group is supposed to be to pass on where the jobs are and how to get one, but if I knew those kinds of things, I would have a job right now; not still be looking after three years out of work. I think my major takeaway from this struggle is confusion...after 30 plus years of successful work and with bachelors degrees in Business and Industrial/Organizational Psychology (Magna cum Laude) and a Masters degree in Management (Summa cum Laude) you would think there would be someone, somewhere who could use my skillset to the benefit of their company. After three years of looking, though, I have finally come to the realization that I may never work again. That drives a bunch more questions that I have no answers, how do you keep eating when the IRA is gone? Okay, that's enough "poor me" is still okay...I can still do 15 miles a day on my mountain bike and the 94 Miata makes me grin every time I drive, I just have to keep going forward, keep sending resumes, keep making contacts and keep up the hope that there will be a place for me somewhere...or, I'll figure something else out.


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Comment Preferences

  •  Figure out what you would like to do... (5+ / 0-)

    ...assess the market - and start studying on youir own.

    But I'm sure you've thought of this; best of luck to you and hang in there.  There's always hope that things will get better.

    Boehner Just Wants Wife To Listen, Not Come Up With Alternative Debt-Reduction Ideas

    by dov12348 on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 03:26:28 PM PDT

  •  Where are you? (5+ / 0-)

    Can you move?

    Daily Kos an oasis of truth. Truth that leads to action.

    by Shockwave on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 03:32:24 PM PDT

  •  I&O psych??? Apply to a museum!! (12+ / 0-)

    Seriously.... overqualified and unemployed was my reality for 8 years recently. Delivering pizza, having people ask me if I knew how to soell words. Kicked.ass in job interviews but,alas, too educated overqualified, and no license.

    Finally got my professional counseling licence and was finally able to get a good job.... after several amazingly bad experiences...not getting paid for work done..... I am 52 by the way.

    The best thing i ever saw while panicking  and unemployed was What Color Is Your Parachute? Excellent way to review what you might want to search for....

    T & R

  •  I Turned a Hobby into an Artisan self Employment (8+ / 0-)

    so there may be something like that or a career skill set you might piece together with some training to find a way to self employ. I lost my tech job in late 90's in my late 40's and got occasional interviews but no offers even for much less pay.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 03:34:20 PM PDT

  •  I became unemployed at 55 but was "fortunate" (7+ / 0-)

    enough to have been busted up in a livestock handling accident so I qualified for SSDI after 4 years of applications and appeals.

    I am still looking to reinvent myself one more time, within the limitations I experience but anticipate any sort of reinvention will have to be self generated

    •  and the rumblings are already starting (9+ / 0-)

      to go after this too; "too many people on disability" the whole NPR thing last's coming, this is how they started in on the public employee pensions a few years back, laying the groundwork through NPR pieces and such, and a few years later we are having our pensions cut by the Walkers and Crhsities of the world. Now they are going after disability.

      •  Absolutely correct. NPR is absolutely disgusting. (4+ / 0-)

        They have been playing pieces of "too many people on disability" for a couple of weeks. They do it all day long. On the weekends they have hour long attacks on disability. NPR is exactly like fox w/o any attempts at sick humor.

        They're saying since welfare has been minimized and unemployment is high the only recourse people have is to go to a doctor and get themselves on disability in order to survive.  Then they interviewed companies that get paid to get people on disability and have some disembodied voice chortles how easy it is and how they (the company) gets paid fourteen hundred dollars for every person they get off of welfare and onto SSDI. This company was explaining  how the states love it when they can get someone off the state rolls and onto the fed rolls.

        NPR is now a wholly owned corporate troll org. It makes me very sad to think what it used to be before Bush's sociopaths took over and how it is now just a corporate megaphone. And worse, all those little stupids who call in and just fawn over how much they love NPR. (Diane Rehm is slimy, especially when she discusses anything w/her guests being all koch bros owned outfits, Cato, Heritage foundation AEI and she agrees w/them all while cutting off callers who challenge them.)

        "I freed a thousand slaves, I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves" Harriet Tubman

        by BrianParker14 on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 09:01:30 PM PDT

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  •  jadevol - I know that Grand Rapids (4+ / 0-)

    and Michigan generally are not the hotbed of startups that we have here in Silicon Valley. However, nearly every major city has startups that are nurtured by colleges, investors, banks, or angel groups. Find out where there is a concentration of startups and offer to work for equity. If you can make a significant contribution you will likely be hired when, and if, the company is funded. If you aren't hired you will have some equity which could have value, will have a recent job to put on your resume, and will be stimulated by the energy that is typical in startups.  

    "let's talk about that"

    by VClib on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 05:43:05 PM PDT

  •  When I was in my 50s I lied about qualifications-- (6+ / 0-)

    I omitted a degree that looked "too fancy" for the just enough above min-wage I was applying for.  A month earlier I had been turned down for something similar because I was "over-qualified."

    Over-qualified people need to eat, too.

    Fiscal conservative: a Republican ready to spend $5 to save a dime--especially if that dime is helping a non-donor.

    by Mayfly on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 06:16:39 PM PDT

    •  Excellent advice! (4+ / 0-)

      I trimmed my resume, subtracted 10 years off the year of graduation, used Bachelor's degree info only, consolidated to only the last 10 years of work and suddenly I got call backs.

      If you ever want to work again, remember this... Honesty is the WORST policy.

      Never take advice from anyone under forty. They think their status under 50 has nothing to do with their job prospects.  They don't realize that they will be you in 10 years.  Ignore them, they will learn soon.

      If you are a man with a Friar Tuck hairline, shave your head. If you are a woman, you know the tricks that work best for you.

      Godspeed to you.  It is a war against age out there.

  •  Maybe find a place you would like to work and (0+ / 0-)

    do volunteer work there. I know a couple of people who got jobs that way. The Gilda's Club in GR is pretty happening and your qualifications sound right up their alley.

    Tracy B Ann - technically that is my signature.

    by ZenTrainer on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 06:53:31 PM PDT

  •  I was 62 when the ax fell on my job (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Richard Cranium, Oh Mary Oh

    I had never been out of work in my life. The company I worked for was bought out and as the CFO I was the first to go.

    I was unemployed for 18 months but I never quit applying for jobs. I sent out dozens of resumes. I'm not trying to hijack your diary, just saying I think I understand your situation.

    Here are the tricks that I tried.

    I tightened up my resume by fudging very slightly on employment dates to eliminate a couple of short term jobs that didn't work out. I obviously didn't mention my graduation date.

    I applied for out of state jobs even though it wasn't really practical to move. On a couple of occasions this got me into a corporate pipeline where I could find out about local jobs with these companies.

    My "job" every day was to hunt for a job. I never gave up.

    I connected on one occasion with an HR manager who was older than the norm and we really hit it off. Unfortunately the company pulled this job and did not fill it but if you make a connection with an older person in the company it can work to your advantage.

    Try to connect with old friends and acquaintances to see if they have any openings or know of openings elsewhere. After I finally landed a job I talked to an old friend and she was surprised to find out I had been out of a job. She said she would have hired me in a heartbeat if she had known.

    I landed the job I have now because my boss was about my age and our personalities really connected. I will be the first to admit it was dumb luck but it was an opportunity I created because I applied to a five word help wanted ad. It took a little convincing to assure him that I was not overqualified and I just came right out and told him not to let pay be an obstacle that I just wanted the job. (Which was true.)

    I'm happy with my new job. I'm making less than I was but receiving a very decent salary. We are not out of the woods because we are deeply in debt and have no savings but at least we can survive.

    I am the worst cynic in the world, definitely not a Pollyanna, but you have to keep your game on. With a little luck you will make a connection with an HR person or interviewer who will see the value in your resume.

    Best of luck.

  •  I hear ya (0+ / 0-)

    I'm supposed to be at the mid-point in my career. Now I'm just trying to restart my career. Finding no luck in my original field I went back to school and earned a MS with a 4.0 GPA. You would think that kind of academic dedication would turn heads, no? Well, I don't get any responses from my resumes and applying at any retail joint is a joke for fear that I'll bolt for a better job at any moment (which is true!). I feel like my attempt to do better has only screwed me even more.

    "Know that it is easier to get into something than it is to get out of it." - Donald Rumsfeld

    by teej on Wed Apr 10, 2013 at 11:19:42 AM PDT

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