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Today's Quinnipiac poll (.pdf), generic Congressional ballot. The GOP brand remains damaged.
This does not and cannot predict a D House.

First Read:

Strong majorities of Americans say they favor stricter gun laws, including an assault-weapons ban and universal background checks for private gun sales, according to a new national Morning Joe/Marist poll.

Six in 10 respondents – including 83 percent of Democrats, 43 percent of gun owners and 37 percent of Republicans – believe that the laws covering gun sales should be stricter.

This figure is virtually unchanged from the 61 percent who backed stricter gun laws when a NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll asked the same question in February, even though at least one other national survey has found waning support for gun-control laws months after the Dec. 2012 shootings in Newtown, Conn.

But wait!! Everyone knows support for gun responsibility is waning! I heard it on cable tv!

McClatchy looks at presidential match ups because why not? What could possibly happen to change the landscape in in 3 years?

The 2016 presidential election is far off, but an early sign indicates that Republicans could face trouble if Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden becomes the Democratic nominee, according to a new McClatchy-Marist poll.

The survey matched Clinton, the former secretary of state, and Vice President Biden against four potential Republican challengers. The Democrats easily beat Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush.

Against New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, thought to be a long shot for the party’s presidential nomination, Clinton barely won and Biden barely lost.

The results provide fresh evidence that Republicans are still reeling from the 2012 election. The party thought it had a good chance to win the White House, but nominee Mitt Romney lost decisively to President Barack Obama. Republicans also lost seats in both houses of Congress...

Clinton, who Miringoff said benefited from her stint at the State Department, was particularly strong in the poll, rolling up margins of 52-40 over Rubio, 52-41 over Paul and 54-38 over Bush. Biden topped Rubio, 53-39; Paul, 50-41 and Bush, 49-41.

Clinton's support is deep and passionate. But why does McClatchy call Christie a long shot? Because he is. Today's Quinnipiac poll:
There is no front-runner now for the 2016 Republican presidential nomination, leaving a five- way horse race with no candidate above 19 percent among Republican voters, according to a Quinnipiac University national poll released today.

New Jersey Gov. Christopher Christie, who ran better than other Republicans against top Democrats in a March 7 survey of all American voters by the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN- uh-pe-ack) University, gets only 14 percent of Republican voters today.

Florida U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio gets 19 percent of Republican voters, with 17 percent for U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, 15 percent for U.S. Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky and 10 percent for former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush. Other contenders are at 3 percent or less.

Anyone think that should Rubio, Ryan or Paul stumble, their votes go to Christie? Add to that Christie may be at a high water mark, and you have some interesting dynamics going on. The Republican party doesn't like moderates and that would have to change for them to win. No, Romney didn't 'almost win'. He lost decisively, and he lost because of the economy and not despite it (see predictive models). More politics and policy below the fold.

Maureen Dowd:

I’m worried about how the justices can properly debate same-sex marriage when some don’t even seem to realize that most Americans use the word “gay” now instead of “homosexual”; when Chief Justice John Roberts thinks gays are merely concerned with marriage as a desirable “label,” and when Justice Samuel Alito compares gay marriage to cellphones.

The Nine are back there in their Miss Havisham lairs mulling, disconcertingly disconnected. In his zeal to scare people about the “possible deleterious effect” of gay parents adopting, Justice Antonin Scalia did not seem fully cognizant that gays and lesbians can have their own biological children.

CBS News:
President Obama heads to Denver Wednesday, forging ahead with his effort to get Congress to pass stricter gun control laws and will hold up Colorado as an example of what he wants to see lawmakers in Washington accomplish.

Colorado has gone farther than any state outside the northeast in passing new gun laws. The state now prohibits the sale of magazines that hold more than 15 bullets and requires background checks for all private gun sales. Democrats passed the laws over strong Republican objections. Democrats said they were reacting to last year's massacres at an Aurora, Colo., movie theater and at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn.

Connecticut's General Assembly is expected to pass a gun control package this week that goes even further by banning new high-capacity ammunition magazines and creating new registration requirements for existing magazines that carry 10 or more bullets.

Jonathan Bernstein:
Media Matters has noticed something important: Climate was almost completely absent on the national broadcast network news last year. Only twelve stories, combined, on the CBS, ABC, and NBC news shows, were devoted to the topic — which certainly has a legitimate claim as the single most important policy problem facing the United States right now.

There’s nothing at all wrong with the response that Media Matters is urging, which is for people to write the networks and demand more coverage. However, the real way to get the networks talking climate is to get the political parties and their politicians to talk about it — and especially the president. The evidence is pretty strong that presidents can’t change voters’ minds very well, but they can definitely change what voters think about. That’s because if the president talks about something, the press will cover it.

Oh, and that Morning Joe/Marist poll shows deficit hawks and conservatives are losing, and rather badly:
But the president’s approach to deficit reduction – calling for a combination of spending cuts and increased tax revenues – is more popular than the Republicans’ cuts-only approach.

Forty-two percent of respondents prefer a mixture of spending cuts (including to entitlement programs) and revenue increases; 35 percent pick increasing mostly revenue; and just 17 percent choose mostly cutting government spending (including to programs like Medicare and Medicaid).

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  •  Christie (8+ / 0-)

    "Add to that Christie may be at a high water mark ..."

    If Christie is in the water, the water will be at its high water mark.

  •  How do they all fit (4+ / 0-)

    into that circus clown car?

  •  A pointed commentary on the cheating scandal (6+ / 0-)

    in Atlanta.

    In this post I offer the contents of something Bill Ayers, a retired distinguished professor of education, sent to the New York Times but which was not published.  I do so with his permission and blessing.  That is above the fold.

     Below the fold, if you might be interested, I offer some additional commentary of my own.

    I hope you will take a look.

    "We didn't set out to save the world; we set out to wonder how other people are doing and to reflect on how our actions affect other people's hearts." - Pema Chodron

    by teacherken on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 04:41:45 AM PDT

    •  This scandal, and high stakes testing (21+ / 0-)

      in general, cannot get enough press. I was delighted to see Chris Hayes spend a great deal of time on it during his first All In.

      A a former teacher in the Houston Independent School District at the time when high stakes testing meant suspending, expelling, transferring and placing in in-school detention as many low performing students as possible and high scores were rewarded by cash bonuses to principals, I can tell you first hand (like so many other teachers and former teachers here) that it is a deeply flawed and worse than useless measure of actual learning.
      I provide this background to say that this scandal in HISD happened well over a decade ago and involved a superintendent who went on to be secretary of education in the Bush administration. That we haven't learned a thing might have something to do with the fact that there has been sparse media coverage while the damage continues to be done.

      Thanks Ken. I agree with you and Chris Hayes--we should be re-thinking high stakes testing based on its history of narrowing curriculum and inviting cheating and fraud.

      What is truth? -- Pontius Pilate

      by commonmass on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 04:55:51 AM PDT

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  •  Thanks for this interesting look ahead, Greg (12+ / 0-)

    Goodness, is it starting all over again?  It's how long until 2016, and the pollsters are already out there sniffing the air?  No wonder most of the American public tunes out of politics.  It's time for the media to start covering a different topic.

    Like climate change and the end of the fossil fuel economy.

    "Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

    by Diana in NoVa on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 04:45:02 AM PDT

  •  Aren't the Repubs rigging the primaries for 2016.. (6+ / 0-)

    ....to be an early knockout punch instead of a 15 rounder?

    If so, you'd think that would help the fringies too.

    "Michael Moore, who was filming a movie about corporate welfare called 'Capitalism: A Love Story,' sought and received incentives."

    by Bush Bites on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 04:48:43 AM PDT

    •  Reince shall lead them. (4+ / 0-)
    •  Ah...if we only had a Senate Majority leader (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
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      that is trained in boxing.......

      •  You want Harry Reid (4+ / 0-)
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        to participate in the Republican primaries?
        Wouldn't that be embarassing to the Republicans?

        I am convinced that if we do not decisively win the struggle over the nature of America, by the time they’re my age they will be in a secular atheist country, potentially one dominated by radical Islamists and with no understanding of what it once meant to be an American.
        Newt Gingrich
        Victims of the disease AIDS argue, with no qualms of inconsistency about rights, for crash research programs (to be paid for by people who don’t have AIDS), demanding a cure. And it’s done in the name of rights. The victims demand health care and scream ‘discrimination’ if insurance companies claim they have the right to refuse to issue a policy to someone already infected with the AIDS virus. The rights of the insurance company owners are not considered...
        Ron Paul
        What we should do, is [make unemployment insurance] just like welfare…have some sort of either work requirement or job training required as a condition.
        Rick Santorum

        http://shitrepublicancandidatessay.tumblr.com/

        “We are not a nation that says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says ‘out of many, we are one.’” -Barack Obama

        by skohayes on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 05:47:25 AM PDT

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        •  I thought the dems might have some interst (0+ / 0-)

          in squelching any GOP attempts to steal elections.

          Seemed logical, in which case it would be desirable to have a majority leader who understands fighting to win.

          •  And what influence (0+ / 0-)

            can a Senate Majority leader have on state laws?

            “We are not a nation that says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says ‘out of many, we are one.’” -Barack Obama

            by skohayes on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 06:39:53 AM PDT

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            •  I have no idea (0+ / 0-)

              I just want Harry to do something while Repubs are breaking the law with impunity.

              Further, I want to know why I have to stop perfectly at a 4 way stop sign in the middle of goddamned nowhere in the night but these republican motherfuckers can lie, cheat, steal, and rig elections and jack shit happens.

              I am fucking tired of them getting to do whatever it is they want to do without any consequence or attempt from dumbass lame  democrats sitting by blinking like deer in bright lights.

              I mean, why do we have to just sit by and watch them rape the process and do exactly nothing?

              Am I following too many laws? Should I actually be speeding more and robbing banks? That's the impression I get when these fuckers are allowed to engage in this shit with the impunity with which they do.

    •  Help the fringies.... You betcha !! (0+ / 0-)

      Consider the first three states: Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina.

      #1 and #3 are locks for Christoloony preachers.
      Rand Paul likely believes in the anti-Christ novelist, Ayn Rand. But he puts on one helluva show for the Jay!-sus crowd.

      Then the early states are weighted about a half for more Christoloony domination.

      The Family rules !!

  •  Insular GOP keeps using the term 'mainstream'..... (9+ / 0-)

    I don't think they know what that means.

  •  The economic improvement in the key swing states (6+ / 0-)

    are what made Obama's victory possible. Quite true. The Auto bailout in Ohio and the general level of government spending that keeps Virginia growing. However, Obama had a much tougher time of it in Florida where his victory margin was decidedly NOT decisive. Plus my analysis of the state county vote was that Romney left a lot of the upstate and panhandle vote on the table. Enough for a win. I don't know why, but I'm guessing Gov. Scott was a drag on his fortunes.

    There, and in other places where the aggregate topline economic numbers look good, the on the ground granular economy for regular people is still quite shitty. It's not getting better. It still sucks. Obama's Florida success had much more to do with Mitt Romney the candidate and the Republican Party in general than the economy, which for most people without a college degree (most people) is still ass.

    I think the secret sauce underneath everything is the person with the agenda for growth and rising incomes. Getting the average American family (not just white collars) back on a solid economic footing. Anybody talking about that on either side wins.

  •  BTW: Wild night on one of the anti-NRA diaries. (4+ / 0-)

    A banned RKBAer came back in his ex-wife's persona and started attacking everybody.

    It was like Tony Perkins coming out in his mother's dress at the end of Psycho.

    "Michael Moore, who was filming a movie about corporate welfare called 'Capitalism: A Love Story,' sought and received incentives."

    by Bush Bites on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 04:53:41 AM PDT

  •  Joe Lieberman's self importance (6+ / 0-)

    is on display today with a Wall Street Journal op-ed enumerating the many reasons why the U.S. needs to conduct air strikes in Syria.

    The op-ed is behind a firewall requiring a subscription for access.  If anyone here has a subscription, please take a few minutes to write a comment letting us know why Mr. "I may not be a senator anymore, but I'm still a warmonger" Lieberman believes it's necessary to involve us in another civil war in the Mideast.

    "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

    by SueDe on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 04:55:26 AM PDT

  •  The Supremes are stuck (9+ / 0-)

    in a time warp over just about everything.

    I’m worried about how the justices can properly debate same-sex marriage when some don’t even seem to realize that most Americans use the word “gay” now instead of “homosexual”
    My (old school) Republican mother who is 80 said it this weekend - pronounced hoe-moe-sex-u-al when describing her pastor - but most importantly was the rest of her thoughts  - "why would I care who he loves? He's a great minister!"

    Organizing is what you do before you do something, so that when you do it, it is not all mixed up. A. A. Milne

    by hulibow on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 04:59:09 AM PDT

  •  Wrong population ... (4+ / 0-)
    But wait!! Everyone knows support for gun responsibility is waning! I heard it on cable tv!
    It's not the general population whose interest is waning, it the politicians.  Obama, for one, has not been as relentlessly forceful as he could be.  Isn't it time for a special address to the nation on prime time TV?

    The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. Bertrand Russell

    by accumbens on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 05:02:52 AM PDT

    •  This isn't Obama's fault (0+ / 0-)

      Obama has been out there very recently trying to keep the debate alive. Almost single-handedly!
      The inaction on gun legislation should rightfully be laid at the feet of congress. I fear those jackasses won't even put anything up for a vote.

      +++ The law is a weapon used to bludgeon us peasants into submission. It is not to be applied to the monied elite.

      by cybersaur on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 08:25:37 AM PDT

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      •  Obama needs to put more pressure on Congress (0+ / 0-)

        Giving speeches out in the hinterland doesn't do that - it diffuses his influence.  A national address - should I say it - like Reagan used to do is in order.  

        The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. Bertrand Russell

        by accumbens on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 08:43:13 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  For that matter, maybe Michelle Obama could take a (0+ / 0-)

          break from childhood obesity and talk about keeping kids safe from guns.

          The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. Bertrand Russell

          by accumbens on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 08:44:16 AM PDT

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  •  Imagine . . . me! . . . a star on Redstate! (8+ / 0-)

    Yes, it's true - my sock puppet is a shooting star there - and I can't say enough bad things about Chris Christie.

    Not a hard prediction to make, but I don't think Christie will be the GOP nominee in 2016. He's got to make it through the primary - I can't see that happening.

    They're not a serious party anymore. -Kos

    by thenekkidtruth on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 05:04:13 AM PDT

  •  Unsure where I saw it, but Connecticut (?) (4+ / 0-)

    just passed a number of 'stringent' regulations for gun safety.

    Among them a law that no matter how big your bullet-holding clip, magazine, tube or 'thingie' holds, you can put ONLY 10 in it.

    I think this is brilliant, partly because it is such a simple thing. In Indiana, you can only have 3 shells in a shotgun (I think) despite your gun having a bigger capacity. (I am pretty much clueless about semi-auto shotguns). It a law. If you;re caught in violation: big trouble.

    The NRA is totally fucking blowing it by engaging in the bellicose approach they have invested themselves in. it's particularly dark if somebody like ME has to point out that one attracts more with honey than with vinegar. The NRA should have been OUT FRONT with bright ideas on INCREASING GUN SAFETY. After all, aren;t they the 'experts'??

    Noooooo..... They have invested themselves in stonewalling and outright attacking victims and their families for wanting or demanding increased gun safety.

    The NRA should have been well ahead of the curve, they should have come up with the 10 bullet limit in your magazine law, they should be sponsoring or trying to get Congress (since they have so much influence there) to implement more mandatory training for gun buyers.

    Nooooo.....

    I can only conclude (laugh if you wish) that the NRA LEADERSHIP - not the rank and file members who likely aren't looking into this as deeply as we are - is made up of out-and-out sociopaths. And ultimately that's gotta be bad for business.

    If we can create a 'gun offender registry' I'd like to have a law that says people who have 'accidents' with their guns (The "I didn't know it was loaded" Law) should have their guns impounded pending a review and possible gun training a la DUI courses for drunk driving offenders.

    If people can keep their guns, I fail to see how this violates people's second amendment rights.

    Safety good.

    More safety more good.

    •  SCORE! (7+ / 0-)

      Connecticut responds to Newtown with groundbreaking gun control laws

      Less than four months after the tragic shooting in Newtown, Conn., the Connecticut legislature is expected to enact a new law on Wednesday that will give it one of the toughest gun control laws in the nation.

      It incorporates many of the “must haves” of gun control advocates, such as universal background checks to purchase a gun and an expanded ban on assault rifles and high capacity magazines. But it also includes some unusual items, such as a first-in-the-nation dangerous-weapon offender registry and the requirement to obtain “eligibility” certificates to obtain bullets, rifles, and shotguns.

      “It’s pretty innovative,” says Laura Cutilletta, a senior staff attorney at the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence in San Francisco. “It shows how the tide is turning.”

      Interstingly, I have always said that Asa Hutchinson was a really bad human being, as is ANYBODY who would stoop to become a US Drug Czar. He's still a scumsucking fascist tool:
      The NRA task force was led by former Rep. Asa Hutchinson (R) of Arkansas, who said at a press conference that guards should have to go through 40 to 60 hours of training and should be able to carry a variety of weapons ranging from handguns to automatic weapons. Mr. Hutchinson says the recommendations are aimed at small- to medium-sized schools that have never had an issue with security before, similar to Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown.

      Hutchinson was asked at the news conference what he thought about Connecticut’s proposed laws. He responded, “I would be interested in what Connecticut is doing for school safety.” The reporter replied that the new law was their response. Hutchinson replied: “I would say it’s totally inadequate. Because you can address assault weapons and it doesn’t stop someone from bringing in a .45 caliber firearm into the school. It doesn’t stop violence in the schools.”

      So Asa REALLY wants people IN JAIL for marijuana but your schools full of guns.

      What a fucking idiot.

       And yes, guns and marijuana are inextricable so long as I can buy all the guns I want but HAVE TO live in fear of being killed by police just for pot.

      •  And why is the NRA (2+ / 0-)
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        involved in school policy?? Is there anyone out there who thinks that's a good idea?

        “We are not a nation that says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says ‘out of many, we are one.’” -Barack Obama

        by skohayes on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 06:00:23 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Well, they can be painted as not being the (1+ / 0-)
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          sharpest knives in the drawer given the way they have utterly blown their response to the new demand for gun safety.

          And they want to put guns in schools.

          Which will sell a lot more guns. I heard a quote of about $1000/student to implement such a program.

          •  Pardon me, (4+ / 0-)

            but fuck that shit.
            Even here in red, red Kansas, teachers are horrified at the thought of carrying guns in school. And a lot of these teachers out here are quite experienced with guns.

            “We are not a nation that says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says ‘out of many, we are one.’” -Barack Obama

            by skohayes on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 06:08:03 AM PDT

            [ Parent ]

          •  From Dana Milbank's column (3+ / 0-)
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            this morning on the NRA press event about their school "policies":

            A reporter asked Hutchinson what he was afraid of.

            There’s nothing I’m afraid of. I’m very wide open,” Hutchinson replied, separated from his unarmed questioners by an eight-foot buffer zone, a lectern, a raised podium, a red-velvet rope and a score of gun-toting men. “There’s nothing I’m nervous about.”

            “We are not a nation that says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says ‘out of many, we are one.’” -Barack Obama

            by skohayes on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 06:25:15 AM PDT

            [ Parent ]

            •  He's perfectly happy to have your kids (2+ / 0-)
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              surrounded by guns.

              he's nervous as hell about the People legalizing Mara-Ju-Wanna.

              Because everybody knows its far better for your kid to find a loaded, unattended gun than it is to find some weed.

              These are the fuckheads making decisions in this fucked up country.

              Too bad DFH's are powerless. We got the facts straight.

              •  I heard a GREAT piece (1+ / 0-)
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                this morning on the radio talking about the harm alcohol and prescription drugs and tobacco cause, compared to marijuana.
                I'm trying to find the woman's name, and I'll come back and link it for you.
                Honestly, I felt like fist pumping while getting dressed this morning!

                “We are not a nation that says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says ‘out of many, we are one.’” -Barack Obama

                by skohayes on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 06:42:55 AM PDT

                [ Parent ]

              •  Here it is (1+ / 0-)
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                Available on demand or showing on PBS on April 8:
                The House I Live In

                A film about the war on drugs

                “We are not a nation that says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says ‘out of many, we are one.’” -Barack Obama

                by skohayes on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 08:06:20 AM PDT

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  •  Going out on a limb here...If congresscritters (6+ / 0-)

    torpedo gun control lots of people will be pissed....just sayin.

  •  The 'Stablishment (3+ / 0-)
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    I wonder if the  GOP Establishment will back Christie (or whoever is most likely to win the general election in three years) and the Baggers and other rank 'n' file types will just go along anyway. "Anything  is better than some kommiesushalistlibruldemonrat!!!" Especially with some prodding  from Prosperity Preachers and Talk Radio....

    "If this Studebaker had anymore Atomic Space-Age Style, you'd have to be an astronaut with a geiger counter!"

    by Stude Dude on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 05:20:52 AM PDT

    •  Depends on who makes it through (2+ / 0-)
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      the primaries.
      Now the Republicans realilze that the 18 primary debates they had not only made them look like insane people, but it so damaged Romney, from his lurch to the far right, that he could not make up lost ground after winning the primary.
      I don't see Chris Christie doing the lurch to the right ("I YAM WHO I YAM! Speaking of yams..."), but I don't see the primary voters supporting him that strongly either.
      And now that we have Rand Paul,  Marco Rubio, Ken Cuccinelli (VA), and Santorum all lining up for 2016, the field doesn't seem any better than 2012.

      “We are not a nation that says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says ‘out of many, we are one.’” -Barack Obama

      by skohayes on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 06:05:31 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Establishment pick will be Jeb (0+ / 0-)

      especially now that there are scores of pictures of Chistie and Obama together.  He's a turncoat in their eyes while Jeb was out there attacking Obama.  

      Besides Jeb is one of them.  Christie rose to prominence because of his wealthy brother and George Bush.  He'd be nobody without the two.

      This is your world These are your people You can live for yourself today Or help build tomorrow for everyone -8.75, -8.00

      by DisNoir36 on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 06:36:34 AM PDT

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  •  Gov Malloy (8+ / 0-)

    will sign strong new gun bill here in Connecticut on Thursday.

    Bi-partisan agreement, too. (our Republicans are different than your Republicans)

    Victory is sweet-November 6, 2012

    by al23 on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 05:38:34 AM PDT

    •  Well, "out Republicans are different from your (4+ / 0-)
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      Republicans" is something we used to believe here in Maine, too. Then along came Paul LePage.

      What is truth? -- Pontius Pilate

      by commonmass on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 05:41:37 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  True (2+ / 0-)
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        It could happen anywhere.

        Victory is sweet-November 6, 2012

        by al23 on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 05:42:51 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Not enough of them teabagging nutsacks in CT (1+ / 0-)
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          Odysseus

          There are a few but mostly they're laughed at by the majority of the non Wall Street people.  

          But on gun laws it's a whole different ball of wax.  Newtown was/is a GOP friendly town.  Those were children of Republican voters who got gunned down.  People who tend to vote republican move out here to this part of CT because it's safe and a nice place to live with a good quality of life.  Dem voters in Bridgeport and Waterbury are used to the shootings and have always advocated for more gun control.  It was the GOP voters who came out forcibly for gun control that made the GOP reps and senators agree to a bipartisan deal.  Without them I highly doubt there would have been as much movement on the issue.  

          This is your world These are your people You can live for yourself today Or help build tomorrow for everyone -8.75, -8.00

          by DisNoir36 on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 06:42:28 AM PDT

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  •  "Everyone knows support for gun control is waning" (0+ / 0-)

    I don't know if "everyone knows it", but a CBS poll shows that it is.

    CBS isn't cable.

    Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

    by FrankRose on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 05:49:38 AM PDT

    •  single poll (4+ / 0-)
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      litho, SoCalSal, askew, cybersaur

      single question but not matched with specific proposals.

      That's like focusing on gallup and saying Romney is ahead.

      You'd think people would learn not to cherry pick polls by now.

      "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

      by Greg Dworkin on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 06:25:34 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Are you saying the CBS poll is inaccurate? (0+ / 0-)

        Very well, both Pew and Gallup have extensive polling on the issue of gun control.
        They show the same trends.
        There is also the poll cited by Meteor Blades that shows the least popular congress in history is trouncing Obama on trust with this issue.

        This isn't "cherry picking"
        However, ignoring the polls' data on "gun control" at large, in order to focus on singular issues contained within the encompassing subject of "gun control", could be interpreted as such.

        Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

        by FrankRose on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 06:57:43 AM PDT

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        •  that's not cherry picking (2+ / 0-)
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          it's analysis. You can continue to make the same error and claim that americans want deficit reduction via decreasing govt. spending  except when you ask them about specific programs they do not want them cut.

          A sophisticated analyst would note the nuance. An ideologue would claim, see, never mind the specifics, people want programs cut.

          That's why the white paper pollster analysis at CAP by multiple pollsters across the spectrum is so important. They/we have it right, you have it wrong.

          sorry.

          "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

          by Greg Dworkin on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 07:40:24 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  Amazing. (0+ / 0-)

            Your 'sophisticated' analysis manages to ignore the polling of 'gun control' on the issue of.......polling gun control.
            No ideology from you. No, sir.

            Well riddle me this, all seeing poll expert:
            What 'nuance' do you get from the least popular Congress in US history mopping the floor with Obama on this issue?
            What does your 'sophisticated analysis' tell you about support for gun control dropping 10 points in the past month, to now have minority approval?
            By your totally not ideological analysis, what does gun control having far less support than in 1994 tell you?

            Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

            by FrankRose on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 08:27:34 AM PDT

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            •  well (2+ / 0-)
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              the departed, One Opinion

              Give me a specific poll question and let's look. we already discussed the morning joe poll, where sentiment was unchanged.

              Last CBS poll?

              "Do you favor or oppose a federal law requiring background checks on all potential gun buyers?"

              90% in march, same as last two polls. That is the major question on the table. It is unchanged. Repeat: it is unchanged.

              CBS also asked about "In general, do you think gun control laws should be made more strict, less strict, or kept as they are now?" and while it is a slight drop from previous, it's still 47% more strict, 11% less strict, a +36 on the question when it was previously a +45 or a +43. That's a minor change, not a significant one, and one that is a relatively meaningless question in the first place.

              An AWB has gone from a +8 to neutral, hardly surprising because the AWB is not really on the table for discussion in the Senate.

              There'll be a new Q poll out tomorrow. we'll see what it says.

              the least popular Congress in US history mopping the floor with Obama on this issue?
              Is that poll question, a statement, a comment, an opinion? Sounds like meaningless chest beating, to me. Here in CT we have a different opinion of what winning means.

              Thanks for playing.

              "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

              by Greg Dworkin on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 09:40:58 AM PDT

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              •  Your "non ideological sophisticated analysis" (0+ / 0-)

                seems to have left something out of your CBS description. Namely: 39% think the level of gun control should be kept as they are now.
                That's 50% that don't want more gun control vs 47% in favor (falling from a high of 57%).
                Hence, 'minority in favor of gun control' & 'waning support'

                That graph shows a 20 year trend in growth for gun rights and a 20 year erosion of support for gun control.
                It also shows that gun control had far more support in 1994 than now.

                AWB dropping 8 points is "not really an issue"?
                Strange, the president seemed to think it was.....and if memory serves, you seemed to think it was as well.

                It seems to me that we are in agreement; gun control is waning & is now the minority viewpoint.
                Gun Control has less support now than in 1994.
                AWB shouldn't even be an issue.

                Thanks for the assist in showing it.

                Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

                by FrankRose on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 10:24:54 AM PDT

                [ Parent ]

                •  That things have changed since1994 (0+ / 0-)

                  Is without question and bever in dispute. That you feel threatened by the facts is unfortunate but not a reason for unwarranted insults and personal attacks.

                  I recommend you go back to the CAP white paper and see what the pollsters have to say about the data.

                  "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

                  by Greg Dworkin on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 12:14:36 PM PDT

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                  •  Sophisticated analyst and (0+ / 0-)

                    mind reader?
                    You continue to impress, Greg.

                    But why would I "feel threatened"? The polls are in favor of gun rights, continuing to move in that direction and the AWB is already DOA.... all of which you so kindly pointed out in your last post.

                    Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

                    by FrankRose on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 01:04:13 PM PDT

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                    •  the AWB is DOA in the Senate (0+ / 0-)

                      as predicted by virtually everyone. Not news.

                      As fgor yourself, it doesn't take a mind reader. All you have to do is read your posts, whoch get nastier the more you lose on the issue. And you are losing, pretty badly. Your analysis about what is going on in the country is simply wrong. Things have changed since Newtown.

                      Today, CT will thankfully join CO and NY, with MD to come in terms of stricter gun responsibilty laws.

                      The public wants background checks. Politicans cannot resist 90% public sentiment, and that you don't acknowledge it doesn;t make it any less true.

                      In any case, good luck with your attitude.

                      "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

                      by Greg Dworkin on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 02:31:01 PM PDT

                      [ Parent ]

                      •  "The more you lose" (1+ / 0-)
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                        Oh?
                        Which way has the polls moved?
                        What has been passed?
                        How is that AWB going?
                        Clip restrictions?
                        What is the 20 year trend?
                        Who has more trust on this issue...Obama or the least popular congress in history?

                        Your very own post corroborated everything I claimed.
                        You have a very strange definition of 'losing'.

                        "CT"
                        Connecticut already had some of the most strict gun laws in the nation.
                        They didn't work.

                        Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

                        by FrankRose on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 02:44:50 PM PDT

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                        •  FrankRose (1+ / 0-)
                          Recommended by:
                          Meteor Blades

                          I recommend you go back to the CAP white paper and see what the pollsters have to say about the data.

                          have a nice day.

                          "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

                          by Greg Dworkin on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 03:08:49 PM PDT

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                        •  The 20-year trend? Broken in July 2012... (0+ / 0-)

                          ...and has not switched back.

                          By the way, since you keep citing me as having written a diary showing Obama was "trounced" and similar such language regarding who to trust—Obama or Congress—on gun regulations, let me note that the poll in that diary, done by Quinnipiac, showed 42% for Obama and 44% for Congress, not exactly a trouncing, especially when the margin of error is ±2.2%.

                          Of course, gun-control advocates have no reason to be happy with those numbers, but it wasn't the wipeout you keep saying it was.

                          Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

                          by Meteor Blades on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 04:45:44 PM PDT

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                          •  And how does it compare to 1994? (1+ / 0-)
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                            Patrick Costighan

                            Like any public opinion poll it swings up/down, but the general trend is both clear & far less supportive of gun control than it was for the last debacle.

                            "not exactly a trouncing"
                            The independent numbers (50%-33%) certainly are.
                            How does it bode, if the least popular Congress in history is beating one of the most charismatic presidents in recent history in who they trust?

                            The debate on Gun Control was over 20 years ago. And the chances of a UBC was virtually stillborn when Obama decided to throw it in with the AWB & magazine restrictions.
                            If the Democratic party was trusted UBC would be a done deal.....now it is nothing but a millstone around their necks. A better question than "Do you support a UBC?" would be "Do you trust the Democrats with the UBC?"
                            I don't. Not anymore. And as a strait Dem voter (minus Nader in 2000), I doubt I am the only one who distrusts them on this issue.

                            Gun control creates single issue voters....and those single issue voters only vote one way. A 50%-50% split had may as well be 80%-20%.

                            There will be a reckoning. If the barely electable chucklefucks of the GOP is unable to capitalize, then gun controllers will be able to continue on their quest.
                            If the GOP can capitalize (and history shows they will), the gun controllers are going back to the corner of irrelevancy.....after they set the Democratic party back another 20 years.  Again.

                            Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

                            by FrankRose on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 05:39:39 PM PDT

                            [ Parent ]

                          •  We don't agree about the UBC, although... (0+ / 0-)

                            ...as I have myself written here and elsewhere, it's hanging by a thread. Given the very broad-based support for it, even among most of us gun-owners, that is one that smart Democrats will shove down the throats of GOP Senators who oppose it.

                            As for the AWB, as I said at the time it happened and have since, Feinstein should never have been allowed to present her bill first. If I were Harry Reid, I would have given her the stink-eye ahead of time and told her to delay until the other legislation was well under way. But if I were Harry Reid, I would have demanded a confidence vote on my leadership on filibuster reform. At any rate, DiFi is not someone who listens to anybody else.

                            Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

                            by Meteor Blades on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 06:01:49 PM PDT

                            [ Parent ]

              •  Men are waking up. Same for GOP vs. Dems. (0+ / 0-)

                This going like the tobacco wars during the 1970s and 1980s. Men resisted for years, then seemed to come around even more strongly than women.

                The election poll today has men moved to 40%-GOP and 38%-Dems.

                That is a move of almost 10% up from the mid-1980s.

                If we get to the 2014 midterms with a 2% deficit for men, there are chances to overrun the House to a clear majority despite gerrymandering, to take control of another half-dozen statehouses, and to hold at 56 seats in the Senate.

                Let NRA go on and on -- imitating "Bull" Connor -- and their slime is going to stick to every GOP candidacy. Once men tag a group as incompetent, there's no turning back.

            •  btw, yell at First read, too (0+ / 0-)

              they also get it right.

              First Thoughts: Public still supports gun control
              http://firstread.nbcnews.com/...

              "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

              by Greg Dworkin on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 10:04:40 AM PDT

              [ Parent ]

    •  and yes, look at them all (4+ / 0-)
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      litho, SoCalSal, askew, cybersaur

      click my provided links in the main post, especially the white paper at CAP.

      http://www.americanprogress.org/...

      "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

      by Greg Dworkin on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 06:27:20 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Christie's image will deflate when ... (2+ / 0-)
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    skohayes, cybersaur

    Once the national spotlight begins to shine its light on Christie's actual policy stances, his favorables will drop. Right now, the only thing people know about this guy is that he was leading the Sandy clean up with a loud voice.

    But his policies are not much different from today's GOP - and we know how well-regarded those are in the electorate. (HORRRRRIBBBBBBLLLLLLE)

    Returned Peace Corps Volunteer 2005-2007, The Gambia ... A Liberal Defense Contractor (Wha?!) ...

    by AfricanLived on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 06:11:48 AM PDT

  •  Chris Christie, the "moderate" (3+ / 0-)
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    skohayes, Miss Blue, Odysseus

    Let's look at the policies of Chris Christie, the "moderate"

    Environment:  Pulled Jersey out of the Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative, Refused to even address the question of climate change after Hurricane Sandy

    Education: Proponent of vouchers, corporate school reformer par excellence, vilifies teachers' unions

    Reproductive Freedom: Vetoed funding for Planned Parenthood

    Economics:   $1.57 billion in tax breaks to businesses while cutting public pensions

    Equality:  Threatened to veto legalization of same-sex marriage

    And, also, Jersey has one of the highest unemployment rates in the country (9.9%)--that doesn't make him conservative, moderate, or liberal, but it makes him ineffective.

    Also, do you remember when the right-wing media hacks went crazy about Christie just a year ago when he ranted at some kid about "individual responsibility" for a few minutes?  What a "moderate" he was then, right?

    Christie's claim to "moderation" is simply that he's just a standard plutocrat-loving, socially conservative politician rather than an apocalyptic wingnut.  But that's not saying much.  I still don't get the logic of the Democrats in Jersey who support him.

    •  He's a moderate by today's GOP standards (0+ / 0-)

      Of course on the political spectrum he's slightly left of Atilla the Hun but if you're not openly advocating for raping and pillaging then in today's GOP you're considered a moderate.  Ronald Reagan would be considered a community by today's standards.  That's how wacko they are on the right.

      This is your world These are your people You can live for yourself today Or help build tomorrow for everyone -8.75, -8.00

      by DisNoir36 on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 06:45:35 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  I love this (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    litho, askew, Odysseus

    Email headline from Ezra Klein's Wonkbook:

    Gay marriage hasn't won, but its opponents have lost.
    More headline fun:
    In 2011, only 15 senators backed same-sex marriage. Now 49 do. UPDATE: Now 50!
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/...

    “We are not a nation that says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says ‘out of many, we are one.’” -Barack Obama

    by skohayes on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 06:17:09 AM PDT

  •  NRA afraid of reporters (6+ / 0-)
    The National Rifle Association’s security guards gained notoriety earlier this year when, escorting NRA officials to a hearing, they were upbraided by Capitol authorities for pushing cameramen. The thugs were back Tuesday when the NRA rolled out its “National School Shield” — the gun lobbyists’ plan to get armed guards in public schools — and this time they were packing heat.

    About 20 of them — roughly one for every three reporters — fanned out through the National Press Club, some in uniforms with gun holsters exposed, others with earpieces and bulges under their suit jackets.

    In a spectacle that officials at the National Press Club said they had never seen before, the NRA gunmen directed some photographers not to take pictures, ordered reporters out of the lobby when NRA officials passed and inspected reporters’ briefcases before granting them access to the news conference.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/...

    “We are not a nation that says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says ‘out of many, we are one.’” -Barack Obama

    by skohayes on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 06:21:18 AM PDT

    •  Their vision of America (3+ / 0-)
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      skohayes, tobendaro, Sherri in TX

      the way they would like it to be.  Everybody armed, and everybody under surveillance.

      May the strongest and quickest man with a gun win over all.

      When the union's inspiration /Through the workers' blood shall run /There can be no power greater /Anywhere beneath the sun /Solidarity Forever!

      by litho on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 06:35:16 AM PDT

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  •  What are you talking about? (1+ / 0-)
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    the departed
    No, Romney didn't 'almost win'.
    Of course Romney almost won! He was clearly leading that sucker right up until the last minute, when people actually voted. It was only the election itself that kept Romney from being president right now.

    "Every now & then your brain gifts you with the thought, 'oh, that's right, I don't actually give a **** about this.' Treasure it" -- jbou

    by kenlac on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 07:51:37 AM PDT

  •  Why North Korea won't attack the United States. (2+ / 0-)
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    the departed, Amber6541

    It's because their missiles can't find the US on a map.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/...

    That's not even "gun control". It's more like "massacre control".

    by Inland on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 08:09:13 AM PDT

  •  D+8 on generic congressional ballot! (0+ / 0-)

    Surprised no one else has mentioned this. Kos has stated on more than one occasion that we need a D+7 GCB in order to have a shot at re-taking the House.

    This does not and cannot predict a D House.
    Despite that disclaimer, I find the poll very encouraging.  
    That said, cynical pessimist that I am, I still believe that the Dems will lose seats in the midterms.
    I hope I'm wrong.

    +++ The law is a weapon used to bludgeon us peasants into submission. It is not to be applied to the monied elite.

    by cybersaur on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 08:36:30 AM PDT

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