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Sen. Mark Pryor (D-AR)
Sen. Mark Pryor, hippie puncher
Sen. Mark Pryor (D-ish-AR) decided it was a smart move for his 2014 reelection prospects to vote with 29 Republicans against allowing the Senate to even proceed to discussing sensible gun legislation.

Just in case Pryor has any bright ideas about bucking the base on other issues, say the deficit and Social Security, the AARP has some news for him to mull over. Last week, they released their national polling on chained CPI, showing 70 percent of voters older than 50 opposed to the chained CPI for Social Security, 78 percent opposed to it for retired and disabled veterans. This week, they're releasing the state level polling. Arkansas hates it even more [pdf].

Three-quarters of 50+ Arkansas voters are opposed to using the chained CPI for Social Security (76 percent of Democrats, 71 percent of Republicans, 74 percent of independents) and 82 percent are opposed to it being applied to veterans (80 percent of Democrats, 81 percent of Republicans, 85 percent of independents). But the number that is potentially of most interest to Mr. Pryor, 71 percent of older voters in Arkansas will be "less favorable" toward their representatives in the House and Senate who vote for the chained CPI. That's 73 percent of Democrats and independents, and 68 percent of Republicans.

So while it might be just a little bit tempting to Pryor to punch some hippies and piss off the liberal base on this issue, he (and every politician) needs to remember that who is going to feel the blow are older voters. And they punch back really hard.

Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Thu Apr 11, 2013 at 10:08 AM PDT.

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  •  Tip Jar (21+ / 0-)

    "There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning." —Warren Buffett

    by Joan McCarter on Thu Apr 11, 2013 at 10:08:59 AM PDT

  •  There are so many other ways (3+ / 0-)

    Pryor can up his conservative cred.  Guns, gays, Obama (got to be carfeful though cause he cannot win at all if blacks stay home).  Hell the R yesterday attacking Obama on chained cpi gives him cover to do the same.

    Join us on the Black Kos front porch to review news and views written from a black pov—everyone is welcome.

    by TomP on Thu Apr 11, 2013 at 10:26:48 AM PDT

  •  This is the same guy who, in 2006, (1+ / 0-)
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    Heart of the Rockies

    stood up to the Bush administration over the firing of US Attorney Bud Cummins and put up such opposition that it derailed the administration's attempt to put a GOP flunky in the slot.

    Then, now...

  •  Makes me realize we need an AAYP... (4+ / 0-)

    American Association of Young People.  Eighteen-to-34 year-olds need nationally robust and organized representation in Washington.

    "And now we know that government by organized money is just as dangerous as government by organized mob." -- FDR

    by Mogolori on Thu Apr 11, 2013 at 10:35:03 AM PDT

    •  The AARP is going to pull out all the stops (3+ / 0-)
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      to let their members know, and the general public as well, exactly what "chained CPI" means to them and what politicians are set to vote in favor of it.  They're a non-profit organization, so they'll attack Democrats and Republicans equally.

      "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

      by SueDe on Thu Apr 11, 2013 at 11:15:25 AM PDT

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  •  With the exception of a tiny handful of (5+ / 0-)

    politicians most pols couldn't give a rat's ass what the voters want.  They care only about their corporate overlords.  Until election time, when they suddenly realize they have to lie to us to get our votes.

    I've become really cynical since democrats have started spouting republican bullshit.... starting w WJC.  The recent 'offerings' by the President have done me in as a registered democrat, I think. And I'm an old broad.

    "Say little, do much" (Pirkei Avot 1:15)

    by hester on Thu Apr 11, 2013 at 10:44:32 AM PDT

  •  He can vote against it as a tax increase. (0+ / 0-)
  •  And a big Thank You to Obama for putting them in (1+ / 0-)
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    this position in the first place.  But what does he care?  He's not running for reelection.  

  •  All you need to know about Pryor. (4+ / 0-)
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    jakedog42, Munchkn, SueDe, Amber6541

    •  Pryor was laughing with Maher (0+ / 0-)

      He knows his stupid Cracker constituency would get mad if he said the bible wasn't  100% the truth. He knows his state and what it takes to get elected.
      The guy is actually personally popular but I do not think a democrat can win there anymore. the idiots in his state probably think the republicans are on therir side and want to make SS better.

    •  Apparently he's not alone in believing (0+ / 0-)

      a passable IQ test score is not required to be a senator.  The longer I watch the senate "legislate," the more I'm convinced of it - and the IQ's of their voters, too.  

      "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

      by SueDe on Thu Apr 11, 2013 at 11:42:16 AM PDT

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  •  OTOH Blanche Lincoln was successful voting with Rs (3+ / 0-)
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    Oh wait.

  •  D-ish is way too generous n/t (0+ / 0-)
  •  Speaking of Arkansas... (4+ / 0-)
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    a poll from October showed only 18% of Arkansans support same-sex marriage.

    That's not a typo.  It's 18%.  I mean, how mindfuckingly backwards can a state be?

  •  I am a senior (0+ / 0-)

    but I will fear their vote when they stop voting for the Tea Party.(and Romney/Ryan)

  •  In Soviet Russia, CPI Chains You! nt (0+ / 0-)

    "The problem with posting quotes off the Internet is you never know if they're genuine."--Gen. George Washington at the Battle of Gettysburg, February 30, 1908

    by Aspe4 on Thu Apr 11, 2013 at 11:02:06 AM PDT

  •  The thing missing is this: In 2008 the wealthy (2+ / 0-)
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    came to the people for help in bailing them out and the people responded with helping them. Now that wealthy fork over more or we meet in them in the streets to get our 2008 receipts.

    If the people in Kentucky were truly religious and Christian as they tell themselves as being then they wouldn't re-elect and send Senator Mitch McConnell back to the senate year after year.

    by leepearson on Thu Apr 11, 2013 at 11:03:11 AM PDT

  •  Only morons think gutting Social Security... (1+ / 0-)
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    Eric Blair

    Has bipartisan appeal. Mark Pryor should vow to proect it at all costs, including against this administration, and their twisted obsession with gutting people's retirement.

    I know it's harsh, it's deliberate...

  •  water is wet (0+ / 0-)

    who are these 30% who want the government to cut their benefits?

  •  Any ideas on how to get new revenue? (1+ / 0-)
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    The deadly consequences of not dealing with climate change will make the hardship of chained CPI look like a nice spring picnic. I don't see how we deal with that crisis without new revenue. Obama proposed the Social Security cut as a compromise to get corporate tax loopholes removed. Any alternative ideas on how to get new revenue since you're taking compromise with Republicans off the table?

    •  There isn't going to be any new revenue... (0+ / 0-)

      Boehner said the Pres got his tax increase at the fiscal cliff nonsense.

      The ONLY way we might have a chance to raise taxes is if the Republicans lose control of the House in 2014.

      And the Republicans are already attacking Chained CPI...which is also a tax increase too...

      Not only does it take money away from seniors -- it increases their income tax as well.

    •  "New revenue" has to come from the people (0+ / 0-)

      and corporations who have the money, and have been receiving the lion's share of increased profitability for the past forty years.  Willie Sutton was right.

      "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

      by SueDe on Thu Apr 11, 2013 at 11:51:41 AM PDT

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  •  I like this part the most: (1+ / 0-)
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    So while it might be just a little bit tempting to Pryor to punch some hippies and piss off the liberal base on this issue, he (and every politician) needs to remember that who is going to feel the blow are older voters. And they punch back really hard.
    Emphasis on older voters coming out in large droves in a midterm election is one of the best ways to slap some sense into some of these Democrats.

    Funny Stuff at http://www.funnyordie.com/oresmas

    by poopdogcomedy on Thu Apr 11, 2013 at 11:11:45 AM PDT

  •  Keep your hands off SS. Dammit (0+ / 0-)

    Is not congresses money,  it belongs to the American people.

    Congress has played with ur money for so long that they forget it IS our money and to theirs and to part of the deficit

    I have had it with this thinking that they know better how we seniors should live and try to survive their BAD governance.

    KEEP YOUR DAMN HANDS OFF MY SS I earned it, I leant it to congress and I expect it back without being chained to any damn Pi

    Oh and F U Obama.   You will never know the fear of food insecurity or rent insecurity or any I security so you find it easy to cut the benefits that belong to the struggling, hanging on by their last fingernails MIDDLECLASS

    What a disappointment you turned out to be, yet again.  

    "You've got to be an optimist to be a Democrat, and a humorist to stay one" - Will Rogers

    by KnotIookin on Thu Apr 11, 2013 at 01:22:01 PM PDT

  •  Two words for the wise, Sen. Pryor (0+ / 0-)

    Blanche

    Lincoln.

    "The test of our progress is not whether we add to the abundance of those who have much. It is whether we provide enough to those who have little. " --Franklin D. Roosevelt

    by jg6544 on Thu Apr 11, 2013 at 01:38:25 PM PDT

  •  Sen Pryor should learn from the ghost of Blanche (1+ / 0-)
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    Blanche Lincoln was unlikely to win reelection, but the liberal wing of the Democrats in Arkansas ran Bill Halter against her and she almost lost the primary.  She then was destroyed by the younger Boozman politico in the state.

    The lesson from this is that if you go to far to the right you may not be able to survive even in a state like Arkansas.  Remember that Arkansas was solidly Democratic until 2010, so there is still a healthy population of Democrats who could conceivably cause him some difficulty on the way.  There was most certainly not an insignificant amount of Democrats who were very aware of the damage they would do to Blanche if she survived and they all but said "we'd rather have Boozman."  (Not a defense of that sentiment, but it was there).

    The greater concern is that his move to the middle will simply mean that some Democratic voters will stay home or opt out of voting in the race because Pryor doesn't represent them.  The sentiment of hatred for Pryor isn't at Blanche like proportions and he's from a dynastic family, but I would suspect a few too many close polls might only validate the nagging suspicions that some Democrats in Arkansas have about Pryor.

    I'm not sure that the two races are the same just yet, but it will be interesting to see what Obama policies he will choose to defend and which ones he will run away from.  Being a moderate is most certainly the way some Democrats may have to run in Southern states, but what that moderation means needs to be discussed far more.  If all your candidacy turns out to be is a poor person's version of a Republican, then is it really any wonder that the voter will just vote for the real deal?

    The state of the Democratic Party in Arkansas is quite bizarre.  As a native Arkansan, I grew up with Dale Bumpers, Vic Snyder, Bill Clinton, and the early Blanche Lincoln wasn't the late Blanche Lincoln.  Arkansas was always the outlier as the state Republicans in the South hadn't quite taken over.  Now the Democrats are full retreat and seemingly without a real game plan.  If Asa Hutchinson wins the governor's race (a real possibility), Democrats are going to be in the wilderness and will have to figure out how to get back in the game.  Maybe they never will, but I still believe that a Democrat running as a Democrat and not fleeing the scene could win a state or national race.

    •  Appreciate your thoughtful input, thepoliticalgay. (0+ / 0-)

      I'm in Texas, and this is where we ended up:

      Democrats are going to be in the wilderness and will have to figure out how to get back in the game
      I hope Arkansas doesn't get to that point as it has taken us almost 20 years to get people in place to begin getting us out of this mess.

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      by nomandates on Fri Apr 12, 2013 at 06:44:29 AM PDT

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