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I just called Senator Richard Burr's office to register my displeasure at his participation in blocking the Manchin-Toomey amendment. The staffer who answered the phone told me something that I'm looking to verify.

He said that the amendment would make it so that if you were, say, at a gun range and a friend wanted to fire a few shots with your gun, the friend would have to undergo another background check at the point of transfer to do so, and then you would have to undergo another one when he handed it back.

This sounds fishy to me. He also said that Manchin-Toomey was not filibustered, but needed 60 votes because it was an amendment. Anyone got any insights on it? I would like to rebut intelligently, but I'm not one to read legalese. Thanks.

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  •  Tip Jar (5+ / 0-)

    Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of conservatives.

    by PatrioticallyIncorrect on Wed Apr 17, 2013 at 03:52:29 PM PDT

  •  I would have told the intern... (7+ / 0-)

    to stop lying about the amendment and how the process works and I would have started singing I'm just a "bill up on capital hill."

    I sing praises in the church of nonsense, but in my heart I'm still an atheist, demanding sense of all things.

    by jbou on Wed Apr 17, 2013 at 04:00:30 PM PDT

  •  looks like the the intern (6+ / 0-)

    LBJ, Lady Bird, Van Cliburn, Ike, Ann Richards, Barbara Jordan, Molly Ivins, Sully Sullenburger, Drew Brees: Texas is NO Bush League!

    by BlackSheep1 on Wed Apr 17, 2013 at 04:02:00 PM PDT

  •  Bullcrap. That's a flat out lie. Tell him so. (7+ / 0-)

    It's only for PURCHASES and it doesn't cover friend sales. However, the 60 vote thing can be agreed on in order for things to proceed as per the rules.  So in a sense it is a filibuster as the MINORITY is holding the CONSTITUTION hostage.  Remind the little prick that the CONSTITUTION mandates majority votes.  

    "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

    by zenbassoon on Wed Apr 17, 2013 at 04:02:38 PM PDT

  •  I can't believe that Manchin would have signed on (4+ / 0-)
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    cassandracarolina, FG, grover, BRog

    to something so patently stupid.  Your friend wasn't buying the gun and then selling it back to you after those few shots.  No money changes hands, no sale is made.  Background checks are for changes in ownership.

  •  The most disturbing part of this report? (8+ / 0-)

    That intern is fielding calls from all manner of interested voters, people, in and out of the state the Senator represents. He is meant to be an honest broker.

    If he is willing to so lie to you, on a vote on which his side won, imagine what other lies fall from his lips. All the time.

    Staffers like him are meant to be the first point of contact with voters - having a liar hold that position, one of trust, is profoundly disturbing.

    •  He's GOP True Believer (2+ / 0-)
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      Eyesbright, BRog

      ...that's why Burr hired him.  He is not meant to be an honest broker on anything but requests for constituent services.

      50 states, 210 media market, 435 Congressional Districts, 3080 counties, 192,480 precincts

      by TarheelDem on Wed Apr 17, 2013 at 04:46:59 PM PDT

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    •  He's probably the offspring of a (1+ / 0-)
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      BRog

      donor, who probably has a significant financial interest in the status quo.

      Honest broker?  I'm sorry, I don't see it, especially knowing what I know about how many interns get positions. Yes, some get internships because they are qualified and eager. But many get them because their parents are well-connected... and that's it.

      © grover


      So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

      by grover on Wed Apr 17, 2013 at 05:09:07 PM PDT

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  •  Call back.. (1+ / 0-)
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    BRog

    Ask question again, carefully. Record the conversation.

    What is so unnerving about the candidacy of Sarah Palin is the degree to which she represents—and her supporters celebrate—the joyful marriage of confidence and ignorance. SAM HARRIS

    by Cpqemp on Wed Apr 17, 2013 at 05:10:24 PM PDT

  •  Fishy? (3+ / 0-)
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    Ckntfld, BRog, gramofsam1

    That's a whole boatload of cod, eels, haddock, tuna....

    The 60 vote threshold is directly a result of the filibuster threat.  Demand that "staffer" to direct you specifically to chapter and verse saying otherwise.

    On the other contention, it's hard to know where to start. Legislation requiring background check every time you hand a gun to your friend at the gun range?  Welcome to the crazy corral. How do you challenge someone who is seriously asserting that little green men from mars are sneaking into his bedroom and stealing his undies?  On that one about all you can do is closely document his responses, and then put them in light of day everywhere possible.

    "No one life is more important than another. No one voice is more valid than another. Each life is a treasure. Each voice deserves to be heard." Patriot Daily News Clearinghouse & Onomastic

    by Catte Nappe on Wed Apr 17, 2013 at 05:35:48 PM PDT

  •  Follow up: Victory! (0+ / 0-)

    Figured I'd post the end of the sordid affair here.  After being repeatedly lied to by staff at Senator Richard Burr's office about the contents of the Manchin-Toomey amendment he helped defeat, I finally got a higher level staffer to call me back and leave me a voicemail acknowledging that I was right, that the other staffers I'd spoken to were wrong, and apologizing to me for the previous errors. How often does something like that happen??

    Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of conservatives.

    by PatrioticallyIncorrect on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 06:12:53 PM PDT

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